Could /lit have saved her?
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>>24812972who
>>24812972I guess she ran out of Tteokbokki
>>24812972we already have a +100 replies (off-topic) thread on this >>24807410
>The author’s statements and expressions of emotions resembled those of some of my students and it was interesting to see how her psychiatrist addressed her issues. Very quickly, though, I found their level of incompetence unbearable.>It was pretty obvious for me from the beginning that Baek may be experiencing a burnout and may be suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome (she ticks all the boxes) but the psychiatrist does not suggest or imply it even once. They (their gender is never revealed) give advice which in my cultural environment would be highly unprofessional (not to say that it isn’t helpful at all): “Just tell yourself, ‘I won’t drink so much next time’” or “Try to enjoy the present” or “Don’t think about the future too much. Your anxiety can become a burden to others”, to quote a few. >The conversations have no structure, no direction, they are all over the place, and I felt that the psychiatrist isn’t even interested in helping their patient. They didn’t probe thoroughly enough, often didn’t seem to ask the right and most obvious questions, didn’t address extreme patriarchy, which made me see clearly how much the therapist is the product of their culture, in which abuse towards women and alcoholism are normalised. >Several times the psychiatrist openly judged the author, calling her childish, and blamed her for not telling them about experiencing side effects of prescribed medication. This for me is highly unprofessional and completely unacceptable.>Baek complained about drinking too much but instead of investigating why she does that and what kind of coping mechanism her drinking is, her therapist just suggested avoiding friends with whom she goes drinking. This may be a common way of sweeping problems under the rug in Korean culture but it is totally inappropriate from the therapy’s perspective as it does not solve the root cause of the issue. I could name many more similar tips the author received. I learned from the book that the author spent ten years in therapy and didn’t end up much wiser. No wonder. >The psychiatrist prescribed her a ton of medications without explaining the reasons for doing so, side effects, expected results and even ways of seeing when the medication starts working (!): “I’m going to change your medication a bit. The antidepressants will lift you from the ground a little more, and I’ll also include some mood stabilisers”. I have heard of this level of incompetence from some of my Asian students and I don’t need to mention how extremely frustrated it makes me.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49228706-i-want-to-die-but-i-want-to-eat-tteokpokkiWhat the actual fuck
>>24813106>gook therapist gives pragmatic life advice>american therapist outraged he doesn't blame everything on the patriarchy insteadthe west is cooked
>>24813125There's a middle ground, dude
>>24813106>her therapist just suggested avoiding friends with whom she goes drinking.But that is genuinely good advice. So many people cant hang out without getting drunk. It's unavoidable.
BWC overdose. many such cases for westernized asians
>>24813232If visiting her friends where the only sensible copium she had, forsaking them isn't right.The correct thing is to figure out why she don't stop at 1, 2 or even 3 beers. And why she feels she needs to keep on going, essentially ruining the tale end of the night, and the next 2-3 days to complete the ritual.
>>24813232but that doesn't address the root cause of this and all other problems, which is "men bad." your alcoholism will fix itself as soon as we dismantle the patriarchy. that will be $200 dollars
>>24813239Answer: her friends are classic (korean) alcoholics. All they do is drink no matter where they go. She should stop hanging out with them.
>>24813106Oh shit, she died of an extreme patriarchy overdose. Sorry about that.
>>24813284Yes, anon.That doesn't answer the question of why they don't stop at beer 2 or 3.
>>24813385It doesn't matter why. It's nurture, heredity, culture, habits, everything. People with poor impulse control can't stop, period. There's no compromise to be made. For them it's ten times harder to stop at three beers than not drinking at all.
>>24813106Has any western therapist ever cured anyone?
>>24812972anyone else tired of koreans?
>>24813385who cares about her friends."They" (obviously a woman) is her psychiatrist not her whole friend groups.
>>24813439>anyone else tired of koreans?yeah, koreans themselves evidently.
>>24813018That is our cooking thread. Do not be sending people over there to talk about some Korean gookthot.
>>24813431Once in a whileSuch as>Baek may be experiencing a burnout and may be suffering from chronic fatigue syndromeHas the problem where it also needs to be verified against sleep quality, to control for sleep apnea or UARS. If you don't, you are giving addictive brain drugs to a normative neurological person, and its going to make them worse.Similarly >and blamed her for not telling them about experiencing side effects of prescribed medicationThis has a similar connotation. You are suppose to only give out drugs while the patient uses the drugs dampening to correctly rewite the brain against core issues. The observers strike is correct, if you don't properly teach the patient how side effects work, you are going to need to do extra probing, and belittling the patient is bad behavior. But that also implies normative drug usage, without the correction therapy.This is 2 negative strikes on the person writing thatWhat they do correct is >but instead of investigating why she does thatWhich is important. Otherwise you are going to go back to huffing copium, even more so if you can't deal with it.
>>24813106>root cause of the issuePeople go on and on about this, but has anyone ever uncovered the *root of their issues*? Personally, it feels like a coercive method to keep people busy with introspection than organizing and holding those accountable for the measurable, negative impact that they're having on others' lives. But, of course, there's an economic demand for counseling and psychiatric services, so that could only mean that people are willing to delude themselves than face reality (and hopefully fix it). And once that delusion inevitably shatters, well, you have incidences like this. I don't know what compels women to so eagerly buy into this junk, but it needs to stop.
If she wasn't hot af nobody here would care.
>>24812972She's no longer suffering. You should be happy for her.
>>24813585>hot afdo yellow fever havers really? she's a 6 in korea
>>24813633for a 35yo roastie she's doing alright
>>24813552The root cause is almost always your parents or something that happened in childhood over which you had no control.The problem is believing that knowledge of root causes would somehow magically cure you of your problems in the first place.
>>24812972Literally who???
>>24813106>didn’t address extreme patriarchy>which made me see clearly how much the therapist is the product of their culture, in which abuse towards women and alcoholism are normalisedOut of fucking nowhere, these people are fucked up in the head
>>24814164The only cure is ayahuasca