What to read after>Iliad and Odyssey>Aeneid>Theogony>Metamorphoses>Argonautica>Oresteia Trilogy>Oedipus Trilogy>Divine Comedy>Paradise Lost>Faerie Queene
>>24813248Don Quixote
The bible
>>24813248>>24813248BeowulfAnabasis of XenophonAnabasis of AlexanderTennyson's Idylls of the King
>>24813248Canterbury TalesOrlando Innamorato + FuriosoJerusalem DeliveredParadise RegainedFaustClarelI only read Faust and Paradise Regained, the rest are on my TBR list
>>24813250Don Quixote is a great filter because if you can’t find that entertaining even as a modern lit enjoyer, you’re just brain dead and soulless
>>24813250What translation? Ormsby? Putnam?
>>24813278I didn't find Don Quixote entertaining. And I didn't find Confederacy of Dunces entertaining either. My personal top 5 funniest books are Ulysses, Gravity's Rainbow, Recognitions, Magic Mountain and Buddenbrooks. What now, yte boy?
>>24813278Don Quixote is a great way to find NPCs because if you enjoy it you probably don't have an inner monologue and just parrot what everyone says about it
>>24813248>Capeshit of Antiquity
>>24813248the bible nigga
>>24813248The other tragedies. For example only 7 plays of Sophocles have survived, so reading them all is a reasonable goal. You also haven't read any Euripides at all.
>>24813248BeowulfThe Prose EddaThe Poetic EddaVolsungasaga and all other SagasGoetheNibelungenliedunironically Shakespeare (know your Ovid first) Arthurian canon (including the continental variants like Parcival)Mabinogion(Welsh mythology)Irish Mythology etc....etc....etc....It's ok to read thing that weren't written by raging pedo-homos ;)
Definitely Shakespeare
>BeowulfAnybody read Tom Shippey's new translation of Beowulf? Worth getting if I've read Seamus Heaney's translation? I can't find an ebook on the usual places but maybe I'm just blind.
>>24814733Based anon I will also add The Kojiki (Japanese mythology), Works and days by Hesiod, and The Epic of Gilgamesh.
>>24813248PlatoAristotleHerodotusThucydidesXenophon Greek comedy and tragedyMenanderDiodorus of Sicily Caesar AppianLivyCiceroCassius DioLucianAnmianusPliny the elder and younger TacitusSuetonius And so onYou haven’t even finished the classics and you’re moving onto slop
nothing. reading is a waste of time.
>>24814482>capeshit le bad, because it just is okay
>>24815003Plato would regard Aristophanes as slop
>>24815251Yea but Plato and friends of Socrates were butthurt at Aristophanes
>>24815247>yes
>>24813248Epic of GilgameshLe Morte de ArthurGargantua and PantagruelDon Quixote
>>24813248> Hasnt read Xenophon's Anabasis
>>24813281GROSSMAN!!!
>>24813281I have the penguin cloth bound classic; John Rutherford is the translator I’ve read>>24813297Contrarianism is peak NPC behavior, though. It’s a lazy way of appearing unique and thought provoking
>>24815442There's nothing more conformist than complaining about "contrarianism".Don Quixote is a boring and repetitive book. Once you've read one episode you've pretty much got the gist of it all. The book is way too long for what it is.The prose is also dry and the poetry sucks. It isn't even for good for its time, Cervantes was contemporary of Shakespeare and not some ancient caveman. It has no truly beautiful moments. The humour relies on physical comedy wich doesn't translate well to literature, and the constant repetition of all the same jokes undermines its comedic value.The book overall lacks any sort of depth, there is nothing profound to be extracted from it. It can't even claim to be realistic. It also falls in the same "pitfalls" as the stories it tries to parody (unrealistic, romantic subplots).Overall, a turd for its time, and a giant one for today.
>>24815469>Don Quixote is a boring and repetitive book.DQ has a lot of variety in how it uses different genres. Letters, novella, stories within stories, poetry, ballads etc.>Once you've read one episode you've pretty much got the gist of it all.That might be true for part 1, but part 2 is too different. It doubles down on meta elements and the tone changes from mostly comic to mostly tragic. >The prose is also dry and the poetry sucks.Agreed with you there, at least in translation. I don't speak Spanish.>It has no truly beautiful moments.It does in part 2.>The book overall lacks any sort of depth, there is nothing profound to be extracted from it.True for part 1; it's a dated parody of a now-dead genre. Part 2 is where all the thematic meat is. It's far from my favourite novel, but I can think of plenty more overrated books.
>>24815498Alright that's fair, at least we agree on part 1. Thought part 2 didn't have a single thought-provoking or technically impressive page, and many moments that could have been great were ruined by pointless jokes. But I do agree that it was much better than part 1 even if absolutely not worth suffering through it all.
>>24813248All of Xenophon is worth reading. Aristophanes' comedies are not only still funny, they skewer still-recognizable human traits. Plutarch is a huge pile to read but probably forms the best single-author overview of Antiquity.
>>24815251This is like saying that JD Vance thinks Kimmel isn't funny. He arguably isn't, but that's not why Vance is saying it.
>>24815469>Don Quixote is a boring and repetitive book. Once you've read one episode you've pretty much got the gist of it all.>gets called out by >>24815498>well, I actually meant part 1Clown
>>24816022I still stand by that fact you fag. I never claimed it was only part 1 and brushed off the fact that he said it had a lot of variety (L.O.L).I simply ended the argument since I agree that part 2 was better, and he seemed to agree that part 1 was kinda sucked.Both parts are boring and repetitive
>>24815003This.>>24815431HUGE>>24815721Analogy doesn't work. Kimmel and Vance are slop, but so is Aristophanes. Plato admits he doesn't like poetics, so that would be his primary reason.
>>24816094The only parts that were repetitive were Don and Sancho getting beat up and ridiculed everywhere they went. You probably think Pride and Prejudice is just "people going to each others houses"
>>24816131Meant to quote >>24816058
>>24816131I'm not having another argument with a retard who interfered to insult me as a quick gotcha while sucking off another guy who did all the argumentation for him, and who didn't expect me to reply in the first place.The fact that you're hung up on the "repetitive" aspect of the book (which it is, as you've so gratuitously just pointed out by giving me an example) without addressing any of my other points is telling of the fact that you deep down probably think I am completely right about it all, or else you would have quickly proved me wrong in a matter of seconds. Now don't speak to your betters again. Unlike you who seems content of himself I don't enjoy wasting my time interacting with mouth breathers.
>>24816131>”people going to each others houses”is often as much as a great deal of what passes for criticism of monumental, universally-loved classics is really saying. just boils down to a weird personal thing. which honestly wouldn’t bother me, but the tone and posturing is pretty hard to stomach. when they act like they’re too patrician for quixote, while also acting like he’s being no-nonsense - it’s a weird mix that comes off as trying too hard on both ends. that’s why it feels overblown and absurd.
>>24816185>I'm not having another argument with a retardYou could have just ignored the post and be on your way. Yet, you typed a drawn out, ego-driven reply>The fact that you're hung up on the "repetitive" aspect of the book (which it is, as you've so gratuitously just pointed out by giving me an example) without addressing any of my other points is tellingThe rest of your "points" were just empty, meaningless assertions. "Physical humor" doesn't translate well into literature? According to whom? Quixote has no depth"? Define "depth". If you see no depth in a potentially-schizophrenic man's quest out of obscurity via the realm of knighthood, but tragically being held back because of his neighbor's hyper-consideration for social conformity, then I don't know what to say. It may not be "profound" (whatever that means), but it's a very real phenomenon that people have experienced throughout the ages.
>>24813248>Beowulf >Mahabharata >Ramayana>The Song of Roland>Orlando Innamorato>Orlando Furioso>Jerusalem Delivered>The Nibelungenlied (then read Gudrun/Kudrun)>The Volsung Saga>The Saga of Hervör and Heidrek>The Eddas>The Kalevala>The Mabinogion
>>24816210That's crazy man. I see by the length of your message that you really went in depth here. Anyways have a nice day
>>24816213anons really be using twitter comebacks here
Euclid of course
>>24816895>t. trivium larper
>>24816094Plato's Republic literally mines Aristophanes' comedies. Critique of poetry? That's the Frogs. Founding of a city? That's the Birds. Communism of women and children? That's the Assembly of Women. And then there's the depiction of Aristophanes in the Symposium, who, of the five speakers before Socrates, is given the most memorable speech.
>>24816213>snarky, condescending, feminine riposteNTA, but you need to go back.
>>24813248Why doesn't /lit/ have downloads for book collections?
>>24813250I thought it would be a fun read, but it kept reminding me of my mentally ill uncle
>>24813248>ctrl+f "polybius">0 resultsI am disappoint
>>24819994Personally I'm not into poly, i think it's for fuckups. I'm strictly monobious.
>>24813248You forgot Book #1 the Epic of Gilgamesh and Beowulf
>>24815416>>24814998>>24823105>Epic of GIlgameshwhich version? The one I read had every other page missing so I just gave up
>>24823901probably this one but let other anons confirm
