whats the deal with this nigga
>>24815154low quality poetry held up by a charismatic author's sheer cult of personality. fifteen minutes worth of reading this work will reveal to anyone with sufficient powers of perception that ashes better suit the paper on which it is printed.
>>24815162Sure, his technical prowess as a poet is overrated, but it's still very good. And it's not a 'cult of personality' that made him famous, it was the expression of his personality as totally new subject matter for poetry that made him famous, which is a very different thing as it doesn't require knowledge of his life to be appreciated and influential.
>>24815168sorry, but no. it's garbage. literature would not have suffered in any way had he never lived.
>>24815171A great deal of poetry and literature would never have been written if he had never lived, you moron.
>>24815172I guarantee you haven't committed a single line of his to memory. You fellate a bag of bones. Byron is not a worthwhile poet, and that you take inspiration from him is indicative of a mind shrouded from anything beyond cheap aesthetics and garden variety wit.
>>24815174Very odd thing to guarantee when practically everyone in the world has incidentally memorised a line or two from Byron. At any rate, I'm not a Byron worshipper, I agree that his celebrity in large part belongs with his era, but you cannot simply say Goethe and Nietzsche had minds 'shrouded from anything beyond cheap aesthetics and garden variety wit' because they thought Byron was a genius. You're just exposing your own philistinish unawareness of Byron's importance. I think you're trying very hard to pretend that your contrarian opinion of Byron is well-justified and intelligent but you keep revealing that you really know nothing about him or his influence.
I am a romanticist after reading A Hero of our Time and I think I should read Byron
>>24815190You would have been better off just copy pasting your favorite verses than this vapid defense. Then you appeal to germans to prove your pet english poet. It doesn't get much more absurd than this.
I like a lot of his shorter lyrics and haven’t gotten around to reading Childe Harold’s Pilgrimage or Don Juan yet. “Fare Thee Well” is a favourite of mine. I do think he’s certainly worse than Keats and Shelley but definitely overlooked.
>>24815200Anon, there's no need to be this smarmy and evasive. Does Nietzsche reading Byron in translation somehow improve on his quality such that he would be seen as a better poet than he is in English? AFAIK Goethe read Byron in English, does Goethe being an ESL forbid him from judging English poetry? If you insist on having the opinion of Englishmen, you can see the high esteem that Coleridge and Scott held him in, neither of whom had any love for the wildness of his personality, and the Modernists Eliot and Pound were certainly not unappreciative of his power as an ironist.You seem totally unaware that Byron ever had serious critical acclaim. Why else would you be so belligerent at my notion that Byron was merely a great poet? Approaching in no degree the praise lavished on him during the romantic period.
>>24815221Your desperation is remarkable. All this for a third-rate poet.Still waiting for even a single verse.Of course, you'll never post any nor let him speak for himself lest he betray his own wooden tongue.
>>24815221>Sir Walter Scott>Englishman
>>24815227You've just shown yourself incapable of responding to Byron's cultural importance. I guess if you're arguing to win it doesn't look very good to acknowledge individuals with much greater expertise than yourself contradict your opinions on the matter. I don't expect you to be capable of dissecting and explaining what defines a good line of verse, but I'll post one of those very famous stanzas I've enjoyed anyway:But I being fond of true philosophy, Say very often to myself, 'Alas!All things that have been born were born to die, And flesh (which Death mows down to hay) is grass;You've pass'd your youth not so unpleasantly, And if you had it o'er again—'twould pass—So thank your stars that matters are no worse,And read your Bible, sir, and mind your purse.' >>24815228As in, English speaking.
>>24815265I had hoped after an hour of deliberation you might have offered something that would raise more than a scoff, but here you disappoint.I would caution you for your taste, but given the source, it is no fault beyond your initial hapt. I hope that you don't believe any dissection necessary on these few flatlines, I cannot bear to operate on the beastly dead. As to your pule regarding a marked sort on whom you do rely to change your messes: I cannot help but note you disavow yourself and your opinion early on, craven as you are. No, Byron has no lasting, staying power. He is a bauble of the feeble in mind and passion both. I pity you another hour alone in that hollow gourd your soul calls a prison.
>>24815154I'm a big fan of his poem Ozymandias.
>>24815285Lmao you're wrong and you talk like a fag. Other anon has btfo'd you, pillar to post. Stop being a fag.
>>24815310I could not, in the broadest lifetime, give a flying fuck what you think, tyke.
>>24815154is Cain included in this anthology?
>>24816459Yes. It’s a great collection, the only major omissions are the short “The Destruction of Sennacherib” and “Epitaph to a Dog”. As far as I can tell all the other major short lyrics are here and all of the long poems.
>>24816696thanks, it'll be my intro to Byron
>>24815174Dif anonI've committed a few to the mental institution I'll call 'my brain'So we'll go no more a'rovingSo late into the nightThough the heart be still as lovingAnd the moon be still as brightBy brooks too broad for leapingThe light foot lads are laidThe rose-lipped girls are sleepingIn fields where roses fade..
