China is celebrating the Fourth Plenary Session of the 20th CPC Central Committee to prepare the next 5 year plan. Books (contemporary and updated books) that I can read to understand the ideology of contemporary chinese politics?
>>24815418>I can read to understand the ideology of contemporary chinese politics?If the State department, Department of Commerce and CIA can't come to any consensus what the fuck China is up to then there is no way any cute university professor's book can explain contemporary chinese politics to you.I recommend Kafka's "The great wall of China" instead.t. Studied at Tsinghua
>>24815418the way the tallest tower flares out towards the end makes it look like a horsecock dildo some ewhore is about to pop inside her fornix. i have no further comments
>>24815448>If the State department, Department of Commerce and CIA can't come to any consensus what the fuck China is up to then there is no way any cute university professor's book can explain contemporary chinese politics to youHow it often works in US government agencies is that there is an explicit or implicit narrative regarding a foreign country or leader that one is expected to uphold, and authorizing reports or advocating viewpoints that go too strongly against the official narrative can result in dismissal or being passed over for promotion. The result of this is that they are not disinterested players and are typically incapable of providing even a moderate degree of impartiality in their analysis. A professor, especially one with tenure, has much more freedom to follow the facts wherever they lead and to publish books and articles that contradict the prevailing narrative without worrying about the professional consequences.
>>24815448I'd rather read from the chinese themselves than from the (((us govt))).
Is he finished?
>>24815448>t. Studied at Tsinghuahow did you do that?
What an utterly hideous skyline.
>>24815574What's a better skyline?
>>24815577Literally all of them except maybe London's, which is just as bad a collection of oddly shaped novelty item nick-nacks.
>>24815568be white. China has had symbolic racial DEI since the 50s
>>24815418China is focused on prosperity and peace. Unfortunately, Anglo-USAmerica culture is inherently a bandit culture and so it will have a hard time accepting global prosperity leadership.
>>24815601Thought those programs like the Schwarzman Scholars and related ones were really focused into people with backgrounds in MBB Consulting or BB Investment Banking. Is that really the case? Also, would you mind sharing a little more about your experience being white in China? Really curious about it.
>>24815472I think a more salient problem is that the commies lie to their own citizens and suppress critical voices so where the fuck are you gonna read chinese sources with the inside scoop exactly? Or are you deliberately now praising what you know is propaganda for retards, because it’s not the propaganda assessments of the US?
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rumors are flying xi had a stroke, also lots of generals that were loyal to xi got purged.def some weird shit going down behind the scenes there
>>24815926Doubt The dude controls every aspect of life for every person in China, there’s no way anyone can rebel against him.
>>24815629>Schwarzman ScholarsThat's its own independent college on Tsinghua campus.It's barely to be associated with the rest of the University. It's really cool, because they get the most famous people in the world as guest speakers and normal Tsinghua students can go as well (I saw former British PMs, New York Banking/Top Tech CEOs, former Secretary of States from all over the world, etc. Amazing!).>Also, would you mind sharing a little more about your experience being white in China? I didnt grow up there, but there are some white kids who grew up in China who don't deserve to be at Tsinghua or be there for their PhDs; it's only done for a better QS ranking. I got in through other nepotism means.
>>24815418oh great chinks now spamming their shit in /lit/
>>24815907wtf? FIX MY DADS SOCIAL SCORE!!!
>>24815418The CCP is like a black box. No one knows for sure what's going on in there, just theories, but they seem (as far as I can tell) to go with "whatever works." They don't really are about ideologies or "--isms."
>>24816014>other nepotism meansare you xi's nephew?
>>24816470And there are no disidents, a la Snowden, to tell us how it is from the inside?
why do US intelligence agencies have such a hard time penetrating into china's government?it's because they're incompetent, isn't it? like that time they lost 4 operatives at sea in the middle of a typhoon or when they lost over a dozen informants in one fell swoop
>>24816568The CIA believes in destroying traditional White European culture and society. However, in the process of working towards this goal they got high on their own supply and purged all the competent White men from their upper ranks. Now they're filled with idiotic DEI hires. So, yes, they're incompetent.
>>24816470>The CCP is like a black box.indeed
>>24816470The strategy is if you're weaker, then you're opaque and lie to appear stronger (China and Russia strategy). Since the US is the strongest its strategy is being transparent but slightly undervaluing its own strength.
>>24816835They actually have a saying over there about counting your bronze cauldrons
>>24816568Mainly because the CIA is ran by retards who aren't even familiar with Soviet history, Chinese history or the works of Marx. That's why they often have no idea what is going on or what they are talking about.
>>24816516There are. Look up Cai Xia. She taught at the Central Party School which makes her different from the weirdos who often act as unofficial representatives of Chinese dissidents (religious quacks, scam artists on the run, etc.). In this video, she describes the CCP's fundamental psychology and goal as being about the supremacy of power, to maintain it, and to prevent the party from collapsing. I think it's probably pretty similar to what Milovan Djilas wrote about the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, but Cai says it has high-tech means of surveillance that the USSR didn't have.https://youtu.be/f5ewI6Q8rik>>24816835Yeah
The bit about high-tech surveillance is also interesting, but it's something that I don't think a lot of people really understand. Like having your phone calls actively monitored. I'd suspect it's much more intense for party members.
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>>24815418Literally looks like something out of Ghost in the Shell
>>24815624The hell are you talking about? Xi has publicly said that China has to be prepared to invade Taiwan by 2027. Not to mention how they "peacefully" put 1 million muslins in concentration camps, how "peacefully" crushed Taiwan and how "peacefully" they invaded and annexed Tibet to this day. Fuck us with your cheap Chinese imperialist propaganda.
>>248176352027 is too early. The United States is still too strong, and Japan is still too strong, too. They have to know that, right?
>>24816470you niggers realize they have their own websites where they openly publish speeches and articles? some of you are just flagrantly retarded, >>24815448you included.https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2015-01/24/content_2809598.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.comhttps://www.ccdpch.com/dialectical-materialism-is-the-worldview-and-methodology-of-chinese-communists/heres one where Xi talks of dialectical materialism, denounces metaphysics, and demonstrates how mentally colonized chinese communists are by european-german bvll intellectuals like marx and engels
>>24817704>denounces metaphysicsngmiChina is doomed
>>24817706curse of modernity knows no boundaries
>>24815938I mean if he really had a stroke and went retarded he wouldn't have much of a say
>>24816568Yes, it's total incompetence. In 2019 they were sent out to deploy a surveillance satellite in North Korea and ended up panicking and killing a few fishermen then running home
>>24815448> if the biggest retards in town cant figure it out, no1 canGotta go off grid for insight
>>24817704Wow, Xi sounds way more intelligent than 99% of Marxists and Anti-Marxists on 4chan. He actually understands dialects.
>>24817704>t. has no idea how party papers get authored and published.When a paper is published under Xi's name it is written by one of the hundred different professors who wrote a paper for the party's purpose of it being published under the chairman's name.I had classes with professors who wrote such papers that would ultimately have Xi's name in the "byline".
>>24818033Why does he attribute them to himself? Everyone with a brain knows that the supreme leader of the world's most populous country wouldn't have the time required to write all (or honestly any) of those books
>>24818076>Why does he attribute them to himself?He is still fulfilling the role of the general secretary of the communist party and if his name is on something it will be in every book store and more people will read it and respect the arguments.He condones this because the government (especially the Chinese) doesn't work how Trump and the average voter morons, like you, would prefer it does.Even today China has elite "red families" at the court and a mandarin class of educated experts in every field that needs to balance the deliberation and power process. For as much as the average educated Chinese hates Xi, he is a more understanding and delegating leader than exists in most western countries today.Trump writes his own speeches (ex tempore even).Xi will have his rural ethnic minority village visit be prepared with the right propaganda phrases to say for the camera and articles. Of course "his" papers will be as orchestrated with purpose as the rest, and he condones it.
>>24818098the chinese government sounds similar to what a capable government would be like in one of those futuristic sci-fi novels
>>24818131except for they have to deal with a massive country, 1.4 billion people (most are poor, low skilled and ethnically diverse), multiple power centers, regional and global nuclear rivals, a secessionist province with remnants of the previous regime, all while instilling a foreign ideology (which is antithetical to much of your latest foreign financial reforms), foreign values and science onto your stubbornly insular people prone to endless greed and intrigue.I'd always rather be Norway, Luxemburg or Switzerland.
>>24818174wow... all of that and they're still wrecking every other nation industrially and achieving virtually everything they set out to doi guess they must be doing something right
>>24818180It's easier when you enslave your own people.
>>24818180Yeah, total disregard for quality of life or your environment.
>>24818180they have a caste system and more peasants than the entire US population
>>24818252>>24818215>>24818205
>>24818252People look at the shiny tier-1 cities and project what they want onto the country as a foil to their own stagnation, but the worst problems were simply moved around geographically. There are many desperate middle-aged Chinese migrants trying their luck in Cambodia and Myanmar where one wrong turn can end in slavery.>>24818215There are riots literally every DAY from some village fighting the cops over developments that are in complete violation of the government's own environmental laws. It's a defining feature of Chinese society. All that infrastructure is impressive it took over three decades to build and was marked by conflicts like that on a scale that the U.S. has never seen, at least not in modern memory.
>>24816568the only people worth flipping already have a higher standard of living than most Americans, and any Chinaman who's done business or studied in the west is probably under huge scrutiny of being a foreign asset. Asian collectivist cultures are incredibly hard for westerners to conduct espionage on because cultural norms like public face make it difficult to know what people's true feelings about their regime/country are.Richard Sorge is like the only westerner who was really successful at espionage in an Asian country (Japan during WWII) and most of his info came from other Germans who were convinced he was a bona fide Nazi, and like a handful of Japanese alcoholics that Sorge went binge drinking with which let him bypass their public face.
>>24815418Read/listen to Michael Hudson
I've been reading the articles on this site. You can check the pages explaining the different currents of thought and what's meant by "establishment intellectual" but it basically means intellectuals within China who have a lot of freedom to say quite a lot, within certain limits of course:https://www.readingthechinadream.com/
>>24818205Anarchists, libertarians like you are so retarded you think any form of authority is slavery so that doesn't mean much
>>24817706>>24817709It's amazing that when you push the Chinese on the transcendent, even the powerful and supposedly-wise ones like Xi, their inner bugman always comes out. They really are a race of ant-people, the only exceptions are the ones that manage to convert to some religion. It feels like all the ensouled "traditional" Asians are all in Japan.
>>24819467Calling the Chinese Communist Party "anti-people" despite them reducing poverty by 80% is peak, white, NEET westoid.
>>24819467Good point, I'm sure the indians are doing amazing by clinging onto traditional superstitions and religion
>>24818426>Asian collectivist cultures are incredibly hard for westerners to conduct espionage on because cultural norms like public face make it difficult to know what people's true feelings about their regime/country are.Anecodotal, but I met a Chinese student visiting the U.S. before the pandemic (and before things had tightened up as they have since then) and his group let them off the leash towards the end to wander around my college town on their own. They were staying at the university for a month during the summer. I had coffee with him, and he was fascinated by America, but I asked him some questions about Xi, and he opened up a bit. On the one hand, he liked the anti-corruption campaign, and he thought that was getting results and that corruption has been a real problem. But on the other hand, Xi had also recently removed term limits, and he did not like that. He wanted to have term limits. Also he thought the propaganda about Xi visiting people and giving them banal advice was corny. Also he thought there was too much censorship. But other than that, he seemed to have a nuanced "fair and balanced" view.I wanted him to show him something he'd never get to do otherwise, so I offered to take him shooting at a gun range the next day. He was thrilled. But he had to bring a chaperone with him, another guy from his group, and as I was saying goodbye to him, he got really serious, looked at me dead in the eye and said please DO NOT talk about politics around him, do not talk about anything we talked about. He looked like a petrified animal and it was scary as shit, and he wouldn't let me go until I promised him that I would not do that. Well I took both of them shooting the next day, and the other guy was a cold but polite "student" who struck me as a minder of sorts. My friend hugged me afterwards when I dropped them off, and the minder was polite but just stood there as I bid him farewell as well. (He actually had fun shooting too BTW.) But I think that "vaccinated" me against totalitarianism. That was just a little too alien and freaky for me.
>>24819473Shut your wrinkly brown ass up
>>24819559Don't you have some snakes to handle, white man? You want to remain ensouled, right?
>>24819559If you westoids weren't ruled by brown people, you could make me shut up, lol
>>24819530corny ass ahh gpt
>>24819530i have a tangentially similar anecdotal experience: the guy who cuts my hair is a chinese fella, very friendly, amicable and a great conversationalist. during a haircut two years ago, he told me that he went to china to visit his parents in the city and instead of crossing a major busy road, he decided to walk through the pedestrian tunnel connecting to a subway underneath the road since it was a bit faster. he was stopped halfway through by a police officer who interrogated him for a minute, asked him where he was going, why he was walking down this path, etc. and he told him the truth and everything, obviously. he said he only had that one brief encounter with that cop but that kind of thing was fairly common in china and it reminded me how the chinese government has people everywhere all over the world where chinese people may live. from businesses that have designated chinese government officials who oversee work to schools where they plant fake students to deploying their own police forces in western countries to apprehend dissidentsit can't be denied at this point that a lot of the chinese real estate companies in my city - who openly advertise not in english but in mandarin - help wealthy people from china escape or simply help them funnel money into the local housing market. as far as i know, if chinese people live somewhere, anywhere, even in small numbers, the chinese government is there as well
>>24819530>I think that "vaccinated" me against totalitarianism. That was just a little too alien and freaky for me.Why? You never dealt with religious people? Jehovah Witnesses and Muslims demonstrate similar behaviour. Totalitarianism, more specifically communism, is a religion in everything but name
>>24819473Are you not white?
>>24819473>the Chinese Communist Party "anti-people" despite them reducing poverty by 80%they also created 80% of that poverty to begin with.
>>24815418lol that city looks like dogshit
>>24822010>the CCP is british, japanese, and nationalistFascinating stuff
>>24822024it's not going to get any better. they don't like to build high density in beijing for security reasons
>>24822024What city doesn't look like dogshit?
>>24815418>Books (contemporary and updated books) that I can read to understand the ideology of contemporary chinese politics?
>>24822024Its an absolutely amazing city if you are young (and a western guy).I can only imagine this is what New York City was like in the 90s when everyone wanted to live there.
>>24823545Btw that tall skyscraper there has a penthouse bar where if you are a white guy you will always be let in and you'll hang out with the richest chinese hunnies dancing to some mediocre live band's music and drinking cheap cocktails while looking down upon the 20 Million capital of China since the 13th century.I could rarely if ever afford such a life here in the west.
>>24816595>filledhttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-spy-agencies-face-shocking-lack-diversity/story?id=72915850>Just 26.5% of members of the intelligence agencies in 2019 were racial and ethnic minorities, up slightly from 26.2% in 2018, according to a new report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence obtained by ABC News.>The figures are below the level of representation across the federal government -- 37.1% -- and the civilian labor force -- 37.4% -- overall.>"It's a practical equation. It's not even about right or wrong. It's about what they need as a foreign intelligence service," said Douglas London, a 34-year CIA veteran who was stationed around the world. "Our adversaries and enemies are not going to be privileged, white suburbanites walking around the streets in Southern California.">"A large body of our spies are not really up to the challenge of dealing with different people and relating to them in an effective way," added London.>The disparity has been more pronounced at the top. At the Central Intelligence Agency, the nation's premier spy organization, just 10.8% of its leaders were people of color in 2015, according to a declassified report. The agency declined to provide ABC News with the latest figures.You live in a fantasy
>>24823645you are high if you think the top spy agency should have even >25% ethnic diversity (which does not even including women anymore which definitely brings the diversity to around 50%).As if the MSS or GRU suffers from their lack of ethnic, religious and sexual orientation diversity
>>24822210nta but chicago has a beautiful skyline. i also like new york's
>>24815418Reverend InsanityHan Fei ZiRomance of the Three KingdomsSmiling Proud WandererBook of SwindleThe Art of War
>>24815418Roland Boer's ''Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners''
>>24817635Holy reddit, what comes next a post about Ukraine?
>>24817635>The hell are you talking about? Xi has publicly said that China has to be prepared to invade Taiwan by 2027. Not to mention how they "peacefully" put 1 million muslins in concentration camps, how "peacefully" crushed Taiwan and how "peacefully" they invaded and annexed Tibet to this day.All these things are great though? Taiwan has always been a part of China. Xi invading Taiwan was no different than Lincoln invading the South. Those "Muslims" were terrorists funded by the CIA, and U.S. put Japanese people in concentration camps. No one cares about your moralizing here.>they invaded and annexed Tibet And U.S. annexed Hawaii and the Indian territory. Who cares.
>>24815418Chinks lie about everything. Total big man death.
>>24824242Damn. You must have a micro-penis.
>>24824242>Chinks lie about everything. Total big man death.The US pays people like you to lie about China.
>>24824401Oh they had to do this since USAID was cut back.
I don't care about politics, nationalism, etc. so I fucking love China and Taiwan because the breakfast foods they have over there is some of the best food I've ever eaten in my life. Seriously, go book a trip and get some jiānbǐng guǒzi, yóutiáo, dàn bǐng, xiǎolóngbāo, and other breakfast street food. It's the only thing I really miss about being over there.
