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thoughts on reading in public? is it passé now?
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I pray the rosary in public.
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>>24819273
Thoughts? What thoughts can you have about this if you're not an insecure teenager? If you are in public, and you have a book, and you want to read it, you can read it.
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i just be lissin to podcasts/streams on my down time nah mean
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>>24819276
didn't jesus ban public prayer?
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>>24819281
He instituted the Eucharist...

And no, the Apostles are seen participating in communal prayer and the antecedent Jewish "liturgy of the hours" throughout the Book of Acts. Pentecost is one big act of communal prayer.

>>24819276
Blessed.
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>>24819281
No, he just said it was prideful to do it as a spectacle.
I keep prayer ropes with me when going to large, sprawling public places in order to assist me in not judging negatively or lusting over passers by.
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>>24819273
I have vertigo i can't sway while reading
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Performative
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>>24819273
Only TikTok-obsessed teenagers who've become convinced that every natural human activity must be first classified and then shunned as being trite and cliched care about what they look like to this extent in spaces where no assumption of being filmed exists.
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>>24819273
i always read when I'm riding the bus to college, it's like a 40 minute ride and better do that than waste time
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>>24819273
When I clicked on the image I LOL'd. It would be a bit on the nose reading this on the bus where I live, in Canada.
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>>24819273
think: if you lived totally alone in an abandoned city, would you take a book with you when you were heading out? would you ever want to sit and read in the park or by the river? if so, then you have zero reason not to do it irl.
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>>24819404
Why are you Canadian?
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I do it all the time.
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>>24819273
I swear on my life and may God strike me dead if Im lying.
The only time I personally saw someone reading a book on public transit it was a Mexican dude reading Mein Kampf.
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>>24819404
Like anyone would know what the book's about
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read pic related in public while sipping on a matcha and carrying a tote bag

you'll be DROWNING in pussy
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>>24819482
I'm already much stronger than every woman I've ever met, I don't need to do this for pussy lol
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I read on my kindle
Reading a physical book in public is embarrassing
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>>24819492
Why?
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>>24819288
Don’t worry about your thoughts so much the words in your head, “fuck that weird lookin’ faggot” “dang she got an ass bruh”, it’s just feelings being cognized. Feelings are not sins, seriously be easier on yourself. Everyone has “bad thoughts”, even Jesus had them. If you go to war with yourself in the sense of eliminating bad thoughts, you won’t win, and you might implode in despair.
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>>24819451
I kinda let the cat out of the bag on that one. . . So yeah, I do live in that country that is neoliberal yeast.
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>>24819273
I don't know what its style; I don't know what to do. I won't even eat in public anymore. I'm converting my root cellar into a mancave.
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I cant read outside my bedroom
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>>24819273
Anyone reading a book outside of their home, school setting, or library where other people are bound to be are performative scum. Simple as. No exceptions. If you're at a park reading with no one around that's perfectly fine, but the moment I pass by and see you you're a giant faggot.
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>>24819273
Anyone doing anything even remotely "different" in public is now labelled as this or that. It's all very tiresome. Just read if you want to. Try not to make it other people's problem while you're doing it. Not very hard. People are bored as hell these days, it would seem.
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>>24819276
Thanks for posting Paco.
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>>24819458
That was me, sorry.
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>>24819539
demonic advice
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>>24819827
next time i'm alone in the park reading i'm going to pull my gun out and shoot the first person that walks by me hoping it's you
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>>24820328
yeah? what if I disarm you before you have time to cock the hammer back to fire? what are you gonna do then, huh? piss your pants and beg for your mommy as i laugh at you for reading faggot shit like henry james or oscar wilde? bet the most you've shot is a 22, NERD.
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im homeless. so technically all of my reading is done in public.
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>>24819458
>The only time I personally saw someone reading a book on public transit it was a Mexican dude reading Mein Kampf.
was he nodding, or shaking his head?
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>>24819944
desu most people in public don't even speak the local language, so i wouldn't worry about what they think, they probably thinking about some sloppy soup that awaits them at home
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>>24820417
the phone doesn't count
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>>24819273
Patiently waiting for my copy.
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>>24819827
I read in public all the time. No wonder you guys are reading 15 books a year and bragging about it in other threads. I read 5 books in a bad, lazy month without even thinking about it. All that time on public transit, in waiting rooms, having lunch, sitting in a park, and so on adds up.
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>>24819273
Usually it's not but today I saw a guy on the train reading a massive copy of manufacturing consent stiffly straight up so everyone could see the cover and I might be changing my mind.
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>>24820639
want to get the recent re-release of Culture Of Critique, it has like 40% new chapters that weren't in the original, but nobody uploaded it to Libgen yet...
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>>24820696
ah, the good old times when Chomsky tried to brainwash people into thinking the Iraq War was about oil, they really like to play both sides
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>>24819273
Looks performative. Also, I don't go out in public, let alone public transport.
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>>24820721
true, public transport is global south-coded either way
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>>24819827
I was just about to go to college and was wondering whether or not I should take my book with me because I really want to finish it today but I got reminded that I'll look like a poser to most people because of this post
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>>24819451
Asking the real questions
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>>24820803
don't worry, the indians at the university won't judge you
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Alas, the train is the best place to read. I read the Alice duology these last few days; I wouldn't exactly call a grown man reading a book for little girls performative. Last week it was Lolita.
I'm trying to decide between Hegel's lectures on aesthetics and Goethe's Elective Affinities for tomorrow as I sit here in my office having one more rum before bed...
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I read almost all of Ulysses on the DLR.
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>>24820857
don't you have to check 300 references and notes to understand each page? or are you erudite enough to get it just on the fly?
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>>24820860
I would check references later when I got home, but it's good to really soak in each chapter before doing that. It's a book that requires a lot of immersion for the reading to be enjoyable.
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>>24820838
Joke?
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>>24820699
I guess it's not as bad as his defence of the Khmer Rouge
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>>24820699
What was the purpose of the invasion then? It seems rather expected for a dying empire. The only other justification I’ve heard was from Kissinger who basically said that it was to send a message.
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>>24820919
Well it's not so much an "office" as much as a room where my computer and so on are kept, but yeah nah, the rest of it is quite un-fabricated.
I picked Goethe by the way.
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>>24819827
I go to Barnes & Noble sometimes and read there just to get out of the house
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>>24819539
Matthew 5:27-30
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to go into hell.
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>>24819827
This but only for people reading silently. You don't need to show off loser
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>>24822243
If i saw someone reading Alice in Wonderland, then saw him reading Through the Looking Glass, then saw him reading Lolita, I'd think he was a pedo. Any one is fine. All three consecutively? Pedo.
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>>24819827
i'm going to go sit next to you and start reading just to mog u
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>>24819492
For me its impractical.
Not only that book alone is taking more space inside your bag, holding it for a quite long time in commuter or any public transportation is uncomfortable. I've tried all of them, all kinds of paperback book edition during my daily commuter session; vintage, penguin, some old publication that are no longer exist, even oxford world classic that are known for their good page-flipping feeling, and its still the same: uncomfortable and thick, you wont like it if you had to commute for 2 hours in total for 5 days/week and read them in there.
This is why digital e-book (kindle, kobo, ipad, tab, your damn phone) is better when it comes to situation like this; they are thin, they are small, and they are flexible, you just whip them out of your pocket or bag and read them, even better, no people will try to look at your book cover or title or even trying to figure out what you're reading in there.
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>>24820696
>stiffly straight up so everyone could see the cover
This is the tell, frankly. The dude in OP was doing the same. You’re not focusing on reading if you’re holding it retardedly, you're just propping it up to be seen and scanning pages.
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>>24819492
Thats just retarded to suggest. I genuinely think someone looking at a tablet looks faggy. It’s like drinking from a straw no self respecting man would do it in public.

>>24822403
Holding a book is uncomfortable? This just tells me you don’t read.
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>>24819273
bro, i finished, a mere 2 minutes ago, from self-publishing that same book. it will be delivered to me some day next week.
here's the cover I had AI create for it, btw. (it's easier and quicker than having myself do it, which usually required at least one hour).
my version cost 8 euros. i do this quite often to publish "forbidden" books.
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>>24822354
I read Lolita first so it's okay.
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>>24822403
Holding a normal sized book while sitting down should not be uncomfortable. This is beyond even DYEL territory. This is platinum grade faggotry.
Reading an ebook is still reading, even if inferior. So are you reading an ebook on public transit or do you have some faggoty ass excuse for that too?
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>>24822403
>Not only that book alone is taking more space inside your bag, holding it for a quite long time in commuter or any public transportation is uncomfortable.
A book will take barely any more space than a tablet. A book doesnt need to be charged. A book isnt uncomfortable to hold.

So I really don’t know what the fuck youre saying. Either a bot or a shill trying to push the digital format.
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>>24822460
>even if inferior
even if superior*
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>>24822519
Only a genuinely autistic zoomer would say this.
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>>24822530
Only a retard with too much time and space would want to deal with storing/transporting hundreds of books
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>>24822546
>retards have more free time and storage space than me
Oof self own there you broke retard.
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>>24822563
Sure, my time and money actually has value. You autistically organizing your bookshelves is a net positive for your life, it isn't for me
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>>24822573
Nice try but you, as a default, assumed someone who reads physical books had too much time and too much space. Clearly this means you’re a wagie in a shitty little apartment. Your time is worth very little, it would seem. Minimum wage even.
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i'm an avid reader. despite my busy life (in every sphere), i read at least 80 books per year. My library contains more than 9k books (just this year I've bought over 300 - managed to defeat my loathing of used books and found a reliable seller).

I've tried to read in public - on my way to uni, some 10 years ago. Never could read more than 10 pages.
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>>24822403
>even better, no people will try to look at your book cover or title or even trying to figure out what you're reading
Why would you care at all if strangers look at your bookcover?
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>>24822685
I used to be a cashier and would have people come to me saying they saw me on the bus/running from the bus stop. People telling my manager how decent they saw me behaving inside and outside of work probably helped with my being promoted back then. The image of you in the eyes of randos is not ephemeral. I would not be reading lolita or racist shit or anything controversial in public. Especially now when people think it's cool to just confront people for tiktok clout or whatever and your face can be attached to what you put next to it forever.
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>>24820974
I think the "FOR OIL" message has been repeated so many times over the past 22 years with no further explanation that it has diluted it. I remember reading (ONCE) that it was because Saddam had planned on accepting other currencies for oil, like the Great British Pound, instead of the US Dollar. No one ever talks about this and they instead try and put an image in peoples' heads of American tankers loaded with Iraqi oil coming home, which never happened.
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ngl im just playin my japanese cartoon games as an intellectual while i take the state welfare tube
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>>24820974
for Israel

>The conspiracy to attack Iraq and remove the government of Saddam Hussein began as the second Intifada became unstoppable. Setting the stage to attack, Iraq began with accusing Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction and his capability to deploy them in 45 minutes against western interests, his association with al-Qaeda, Saddam had the operational control of the Twin Tower attack on 9/11, etc.

>The United States administration believed that Saddam Hussein was behind the intensification of the second Intifada and suicide attacks in Israel. They also believed that Saddam Hussein were funding attackers. President George W Bush in his state of the union address on January 29, 2002, the inaugural speech making the case to attack Iraq, said, ‘Our enemies send other people’s children on missions of suicide and murder’ — meaning Saddam Hussein’s patronisation of Intifada and suicide attacks in Israel. Vice-president Dick Cheney told the BBC World on October 6, 2004 that Saddam had provided $ 25,000 for each of the families of Palestine suicide bombers attacking Israel.

>US secretary of state Collin Powell testified to the United Nations Security Council on February 5, 2003, one and a half months before the invasion, that ‘Iraq and terrorism go back decades. Baghdad trains Palestine Liberation Front members in small arms and explosives. Saddam uses the Arab Liberation Front to funnel money to the families of Palestine suicide bombers in order to prolong the intifada.’ ‘Clearly, Saddam Hussein and his regime will stop at nothing until something stops him’, he concluded. That ‘something’ was the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 to stop Saddam Hussein from supporting the Palestinians in his own right.
https://www.newagebd.net/article/152243/why-did-us-invade-iraq-in-2003
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>>24819273
More based than ever. Tech companies hate reading, especially publicly, so you should do it as much as possible
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>>24822403
>can't comfortably hold a book
How weak are you, anon?
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>>24823867
>The image of you in the eyes of randos is not ephemeral.
Scary thought but it's something I keep in mind as comfort if I ever need character witnesses. Sure they might not care, but people notice and judge. Never hurts to establish a good reputation just in your day to day.
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it’s great desu i like to read bataille at waffle house. visions of excess hits different with an all-star special
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>>24824036
>how weak is the castrated weeb
lmao
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>>24819273

I've realized some of the reasons (four, overall) why the recent hate for the "performative male", a notion most commonly associated with a man reading in public. First of all, the most surface-level things, from the woman's point of view: it has been recognized as one possible tactic to attract attention, but as far as attention-getting goes, it's one of the most passive things that you could possibly try. Women would rather that the guy be loud and/or assertive. And the reading guy might very well turn out to be a douchebag, and if she's going to be with a douchebag, she'd rather that he at least not be a passive whiny douchebag.

Those are surface-level woman takes, but there are other reasons: anti-intellectualism, and dumbphone culture. If someone is actually reading a book, the dumb herd instinctively (and possibly, correctly) interprets this as a display of superiority: the reader is better than all of you, because he is actually reading a book. To a point they may even understand that this is true (it is), but again it's one of the most passive displays of superiority that you could affect, or be perceived to be affecting. The counter-intuitive contrast of superiority through (physical) passivity confuses and enrages the normie. Also, dumbphones have been fully normalized, and anyone who is doing anything other than the stupid cattle behavior of looking at their phone when they need to pass the time while waiting in public is suspect. Even if the replacement behavior still involves craning one's neck down to look at an object, similar to everyone else. Worse (from the woman's point of view), a social behavior (communicating with others via dumbphone) is replaced with an asocial behavior (reading by one's self).

I realize that these aren't very deep remarks, but I wanted to articulate them.
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>>24824049
I think if you’re standing on public transport with your book at face level youre likely just performing it’s not that deep. You’re not capable of focusing on what you’re reading while holding a bag, keeping your balance and having 40 people around you talking. Anyone telling you they can is lying.

If this dude were sitting with the book open upward I’d believe he was actually reading.
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>>24819273
i wish i could read in public but there are too many distractions. if two people are having a conversation loud enough for me to hear i will always focus in on them.
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>>24819273
I would not read 'in public' places, because you are no longer aware of your surroundings (ie. phonefags).
Depending on your community, it becomes a matter of personal safety and survival, especially in the cities.
Be safe, bros.
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>>24822263
Such a disgusting, dysgenic, unhuman religion Christianity is.
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>>24819276
Matthew 6:5
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>>24819827
Oh shit guys, you're being performative if you're reading a book while on a hours long flight!!
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you guys always go on about how you have trouble reading and concentrating in your own homes, I don't buy this idea that you can focus on what you're reading when you're in a crowded bus during rush hour
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>>24824169
>you guys always go on about how you have trouble reading and concentrating in your own homes
You completely made this up.

>I don't buy this idea that you can focus on what you're reading when you're in a crowded bus during rush hour
This I agree with
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>>24819273
Can't read in public anymore unless it's DFW or Pynchon or McCarthy, else you'll get filmed and called a performative male on TikTok or whatever.

or the Quran
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>>24824133
the current state
truly sad
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>>24819273
I am crippled by ADHD and the only way I can just sit down and read is when Its in a public place where other people might judge me.
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Who gives le fuck?
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>>24819273
I don't verb in public.
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>>24822580
I geniunely believe publicly reading physical versions of well known books is for huge faggots. I use my phone or listen to an audiobook when jogging.
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>>24824059
/thread
Me and my gf make fun of people that do that shit on the metro. One night we even saw a motherfucker reading while walking. Like, wth, how can you even enjoy the book at that point. Might as well read while driving.
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>>24826932
>Might as well read while driving.
what's wrong with this?
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I prefer fucking in public
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>>24826932
Only the smartest people can read a book while walking without bumping into things. Most people are on their phone while walking around anyways, so it's not like it's uncommon.
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>>24827008
Finally—real vindication. I am a genius among geniuses as I always pace around while reading, never bumping, always dodging and unconsciously hopping. Fuck yeah. That said, I'm stupid, but at least I'm a genius.
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>>24824059
>>24826932
You sound very insecure.
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>>24819458
Jail Jitler ese, debemos guardar una futura por los gringitos, porque la belleza de las rubias no puede disperarse de este mundo güey.
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>>24827036
The irony of this reply is that only someone who feels attacked by this description >>24824059 would reply this way lol



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