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when did "everything is secretly gay" start with academia? from abraham lincoln, to moby dick.. it's all undercover homo shit according to them.
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you know when you're like 5 and someone else has ice cream and is teasing you for not having any so you say it looks like poop? that's the entirety of everything made by cis white males. they can't embrace or recreate it so they try to tear it down, it's all their demonic shitty selves can do
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I used to think this trope is overplayed but then the 1 truly religious person I knew (not just conservative larping as religious for brownie points, would get drunk and rant about theology) one day came out as gay and confessed to having lead a secret double life of gay sex had tonnes of gay sex out in the open this time then came out yet again as trans.
It was a bizzare experience watching this unfold and if there weren't a bunch of films and stories about this I would definitely want to write something about what I witnessed.
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>>24820471
you sound like an academic
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>>24820477
Because I remember thing that happened?
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>>24820480
because your response was the same phenomena i described in the OP
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>>24820456
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Same time as the "everything is racist and sexist" rot taking center sage, it is an easy cudgel for being an unfalsifiable accusation
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>>24820477
Academics usually like getting their shit pushed in by large black guys so extremely accurate.
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>>24820498
Yeah I was on topic.
Thats normal on any forum?
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>>24820471
What denomination?
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>>24820579
Eastern Orthodox
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>>24820580
Well, dang. So not a Prot.

I do think being "based and trad" can get you wound extremely tight, especially if you're a weirdo and a pervert, and if something about it breaks, it breaks hard. So your story makes some sense to me.

I'm a weirdo and a pervert myself, and also a Roman Catholic. Sometimes I wish I weren't a pervert, but this is something about me that God saddled me with, so I've just got to live with it. I think in this regard it is useful to belong to a pretty firm Church, though of course that didn't help your friend. I have a sincere faith that what the Church teaches is true, and this keeps me from relying on my own judgment when it comes to matters of sin and behavior.

It also helps to remind me that I am a great sinner, in multiple ways, and am reliant on God's mercy. This, in turn, informs how I should treat others, though it doesn't always. I can be quite nasty to people, which is a fault I find myself always confessing.

But it sounds like your friend somehow compartmentalized things a bit, until he didn't. Like he thought he could make his life of right religious practice a distinct thing from his homosexual lifestyle, until, of course, he couldn't, in the end. You can't compartmentalize like that, not forever.
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>>24820450
>when did "everything is secretly gay" start with academia?
The Academy, in Athens.
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>>24820450
men in the past were homo af though. I don't know if they actually fucked other men. But their "friendships" were corny and weird.
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>>24820450
This is a thing but then there’s also lots of coping retards who deny that Frederick the Great was a faggot or that Greeks did gay shit
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>>24820450
> A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, he fled naked, leaving his garment behind.

Unsurprisingly, Jesus was gay
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>>24820584
Why is every online Catholic i meet online a closeted pervert?
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>>24820824
Nice headcanon
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>>24820584
Based, anon. I'm more or less in the same boat.
Something I try to keep in mind is that morality should be positive. Not a "don't do this", but a "do this instead". The "instead" should then be something that encapsulates and transcends the first, baser instinct. The vices are of the same material as the virtues, as St. Augustine put it. It's just a matter of correctly ordering stuff, towards a higher framework.
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>>24820826
Every single online Anything is a pervert.
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>>24820584
>I wish I weren't a pervert, but this is something about me that God saddled me with
Why makes you so sure it is He who gave you this?
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>>24820450
Moby Dick has a scene where two men sleep in the same bed and rub their legs against each other. Whether is meant to be gay or not we will never know, but the homoerotic undertones are there.
That aside, I think that sentiment become common after 1945 and the standard as homosexuality became more widely accepted, or rather, easier to use as a marketing tool.
>>24820456
I don't think it's quite that. I think it's a mix of overanalizing texts and abusing death of the author, brought to you by the same retards who parrot "media literacy" because someone praises a work that represents something that they don't agree with as good or because the author has different political opinions than them. Of course, academia ran with it because academia has been run by liberal leftists concerned with agendas since the last century.
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>>24820777
>Greeks did gay shit
>look inside
>it's pederasty
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>>24820450
>>24820520
This whole post is bait. At least with these examples. The Gay Lincoln hypothesis goes back more than a century at this point and bed sharing aside Moby Dick has that entire chapter about squeezing sperm
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>>24820584
I personally believe in God, but I feel the main reason I don’t call myself Christian despite having a lot of Christian values is because I’m a hugely kinky pervert and a bisexual and I’m not really ashamed of it. My logic is that God made me this way, so it must be part of his plan for me to be a horny degenerate.

Part of me wants to be a devout, practicing Christian, but I’d feel like a fraud considering how much of a sexual being I am. I’ve spent years trying to reconcile my lust with faith, and I just want to marry the two so I’m not questioning if God loves or hates me anymore.
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This is what a scholar should do; separate the wheat from the chaff. Everything is gay and jewish until proven otherwise. The REAL question, though, is "when did being gay stop being gay?"
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>>24821053
Have you thought of knocking up a rural woman with a dozen kids?
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>>24821083
Yes. That would be my dream life.
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>>24820450
'Queer studies' became trendy alongside all the other grievance studies nonsense, and that's basically what their scholarship was about: complaining about homophobia and straight males while also pushing forward an hypothesis that fags were always writing things and they are better writters than straight people. Not that much different from how afrocentrists have invented an entire mythology around how everything was secretly made by blacks.
As for why this phenomenon happened, it seems that around the 60s a bunch of activists managed to get inside academia and basically take over it. The study of the classics was replaced with a big debunking project over why the classics are either racist/homophobic/mysoginist/etc and shouldn't be taught, or why these classics were actually made by oppressed people so it's OK to keep them around, but only as long as you recognize it was written by a fag or a woman. You might respond to this saying
>But subversive Jews were always in academia!
To which I will respond that the Jewish academics of the 20s-40s were a different breed and they had neither the absolute control over this oppressed/oppressor narrative nor the desire to throw away the western canon, even if it was written mostly by a bunch of christian goys.
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>>24821102
>they are better writters than straight people
This is true though. Leftists are evil for trying to destroy the culture that right-wing homosexuals created...
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>>24821106
Culture arises from this "left" then it is controlled by the "right", corrupted and eventually collapses with all their so-called "civilizations". Through the rubble the "left" picks up the pieces to create a new culture.
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>>24821831
Thats demonstrably false. I've never heard of a single leftist ever creating anything.



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