I found out the hard way you shouldn't focus on Ezra Pound or any fascist writer for a research project. I got kicked out of my program for it.
>>24820686Academics are THE problem. Brother Number 1 got it right.
>>24820686No you didn't.
What's the problem about he having a little flirt with fascism? He stills the most important modernist poet of english language. Basically created a new aesthetical of poetry mixing politics, history, economy etc. Do scholars feel so superior to dismise his works just because of a political view?
>>24820747He's a dogshit writer
>>24820747The guy is making up tall tales to scare people out of reading literature he disagrees with.
>>24820750Type of shit a poetrylet would say. Pound had more influence on european poetry than Whitman and Dickinson combined. Only Zukofsky and WCW can match him among yankees and they were both all over his dick. Moore tried, but shes too boring.
>>24820771Side note, I always for some reason I got a wintery/woodsy feel from his poetry. I can't be alone in this sentiment.
Obvious bait post this would not happen
Lol dissertations on Pound (usually focusing on his influence on other poets) are numerous.This is lazy bait.
>>24820771>Pound had more influence on european poetry than Whitman and Dickinson combined.Correct, 90% of american literature is rightfully despised worldwide and Pound is one of the rare competitive american 20th century authors
I doubt it. Leftists love his poetry
>>24820771>Pound had more influence on european poetry than Whitman and Dickinson combined>influence=qualitySlave.
>>24821179That's silly. American poetry absolutely dominated the 20th century. America has no less than three poets (Pound, Eliot, Stevens) that could be reasonable contenders for the greatest of the century.
>>24821639Nabokov inexplicably loved modernist fiction while hating modernist poetry. A true enigma, that man.
I only heard of him from the criminal intent episode with Nicole wallace.
>>24821654They aren't really the same thing
>>24821769True, but it's still curious why someone who recognizes and appreciates experimentation and boundary-pushing in prose would be so hostile to similar experimentation and boundary-pushing in poetry.
>>24821654Poetry belongs in the 19th century
>>24821654So do I. Modernist literature attempts to better emulate human perception, our interiority, our relationships with expression. Modernist poetry is a family guy "did you get the reference" circlejerk. "Oh you may not have noticed but the first half of this line is taken from a 17th century translation of Ovid and the second half is from a short comedy poem Lewis Carroll wrote for shitpost periodical Mischmasch. This is the same level of artistic boundary pushing as Absalom, Absalom!" Pound was a hack fraud whose best work was as a talent scout.
>>24821654There's been a deterioration of poetic knowledge on the part of readers and writers in the 20th century. Interest in prose becomes more and more an identity as distinct from interest in verse among the mass of literary people. Poets like Pound tried to educate the public and revive knowledge of verse but it was only really successful in the isolated field of 'modernist poetry' which has become more and more anathema to the average person because of the accumulated sins of free verse in the hands of mediocre or bad poets.>>24821931Very ironic considering the most important modernist prose writer was James Joyce...
>>24822284>'modernist poetry' which has become more and more anathema to the average person because of the accumulated sins of free verse in the hands of mediocre or bad poets.Lel you can't expect the average person to be moved by obscure allusions and ideas that they neither have heard of nor care for
>>24822317That's exactly what people are taught to do when reading Joyce. At any rate, Pound and Eliot and many other free verse poets have written very clear poetry free of allusions.
>>24820686That's a bad choice, Pound is so lame. Be wise and choose Hart Crane next time.
>>24820686Based. Fuck fascists.
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>>24822751Hitler was a bad guy. You are the one brainwashed by right wing narrative.
>>24822740Brave
>>24822766Take your booster
>>24822751Replace Hitler with Stalin, sure
>>24822814Public school teachers love Stalin though, just like most modern bureaucrats
What thou lovest well remains, the rest is drossWhat thou lov’st well shall not be reft from theeWhat thou lov’st well is thy true heritageWhose world, or mine or theirs or is it of none?First came the seen, then thus the palpable Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,What thou lovest well is thy true heritageWhat thou lov’st well shall not be reft from thee “Master thyself, then others shall thee beare” Pull down thy vanityThou art a beaten dog beneath the hail,A swollen magpie in a fitful sun,Half black half whiteNor knowst’ou wing from tailPull down thy vanity How mean thy hatesFostered in falsity, Pull down thy vanity,Rathe to destroy, niggard in charity,Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
