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>>24809828

>Thread Question:
Do you enjoy horror in your SF&F and which flavour of horror do you like the most?
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>>24821618
You'll probably find Book of the Long Sun an easier read, it's told in the 3rd person. Pater Silk is a more likable character than Severian imo
Haven't read Short Sun yet.
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>>24823223
Fantasy books you think Hitler would enjoy? I want to read something that the Tulpa of Hitler I created in my mind can enjoy and we can talk about it between sessions. He's getting bored in here and our discussions of Robinson Crusoe are getting stale. I think he would enjoy discussing some fantasy. How's tigana?
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>>24823378
Tigana is about people living in diaspora and undermining the societies they live in, I doubt Hitler would root for the heroes of that story very much.
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>>24823411
Oh I heard a vague description of it being about people trying to protect their dying homeland that's being killed by a jewking. Any other suggestions?
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>>24823223
>TQ
No
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What are some books where the heroes and villains are extremely powerful? Hercules/Gilgamesh-types.
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Hook me up on some bronze age fantasy kino bros. Something that feels epic and mythical, without being too flowery and overly descriptive, like Homer's stuff.
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>>24823223
When Is It get good?
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Thoughts about The First Law by Joe Abercrombie? I've been trying to find some decent fantasy to read and everything I've tried so fard is either childish either edgy in a childish way.
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>>24823615
At the end. I love the ideas of the trilogy, but jesuschrist, it's so awfully written. Not gonna spoil you anything, but there is a part in the trilogy about a dude just hanging out with a waifu. Hundreds of pages.
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>>24823416
I dunno, Hawkmoon?
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>>24823624
First Law is the poster-child of childish edgy
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>>24823666
Nah, that's Prince of Thorns.
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All That We See or Seem, Julia Z #1 - Ken Liu (2025)

Set in the near future, Julia Z is an aimless 23 year old troubleshooter for tech issues. A man comes to her seeking help in finding his missing wife, and from there it becomes so much more.

That's all I have to say about the plot, because although this is a plot driven thriller, I didn't care for the plot and I don't believe it's why most would read it. This is a very uneven book that shouldn't have been expanded from being a novella, as Liu says it was, on advice from his editor. What I believe to be the parts from the novella stand out because they're both so much better than all the rest and their inclusion feels like they're inserted rather being an organic continuation of what previously happened. I felt like I was reading a fix-up novel where the majority of the book was a filler thriller narrative that only existed to provide bulk to the narrative between the speculative fiction scenes.

I had low expectations coming into this because I didn't know how it could go well. It seemed like Liu was going for a highly commercial book that wouldn't have any of what made his short fiction or novels enjoyable. Liu didn't commit to it being anything in particular and that's where the unevenness comes in. I say without qualification that as a thriller, this is a failure, which is all the more disappointing because some of my favorite works from Liu are thrillers. The speculative fiction is enjoyable though.

There are numerous problems. The dialogue is awful and the antagonists are worse. They're caricatures without being comical. It had me thinking, "What if Snow Crash, but played straight in an entirely serious manner?" That wouldn't and doesn't work. I found Julia Z to be an unsuitable protagonist. She's an allegory, but regardless, I disliked her nearly complete reliance on AI to solve her problems rather than doing it herself. This could've worked in short fiction, but over the course of a novel, it's annoying. Related to this is that Liu trusts the reader far less to understand what he's written, because at multiple points he explicitly tells the reader what he meant by something.

The speculative fiction involves the newly emerging medium of dream guides. They're something like a combination of storyteller, conductor, talk therapy, hypnotist, and ASMR, meditated through AI. I found it to be a fascinating exploration of contemporary content creation and the relationship between creators and audience. Without these scenes, the book wouldn't be worth reading.

When I read books that have content that I feel may parallel the personal experience of the author I can't resist wondering if it's self referential. So, I couldn't help but wonder how much of the dream guide character's story was a metaphorical expression of Ken Liu's own writing history and how it may have led to writing the thriller filler around the speculative fiction. I can only hope that I'm mistaken.

Rating: 2.5/5
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>>24823712
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF
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>>24823743
based
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>>24823743
They're a staple of these threads and deal with books none of us would ever read anyway
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>>24823743
your """replies""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF
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>>24823777
>>24823798
Filtered by based Dunsany
Dunsany is King. Stop reading and reviewing pozzed fantasy
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>>24823777
>none of us would read anyway
From this month
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24779834#p24779854
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24767428#p24774827
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Has anyone read the siege of vraks?
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>>24823821
Just go start a classic /sffg/. Why do you like to piss yourself because anons want to talk about modern sff in the sff general?
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>>24823798
>>24823870
>>24823821
Newfags

>>24823615
Never, they're shit that was astroturfed by the CCP.

>>24823624
Abercrombie is mediocre at best. Plenty of better authors out there if you want dark or edgy. Try Thomas Covenant for more seriously treated fantasy. Or Book of the New Sun but you may end up filtered. Seven Kennings is more modern without being overly pozzed and doesn't come across as childish.
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>>24823743
You will always be a 14-25 year old newfag nigger who does not fit into 4chan.
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>>24823777
He's been doing this for around or over three years. Our third worst spammer behind Bakkerfag and RIfag. At least RIfag had the decency to move to webnovel general.
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>>24823624
I liked The First Law. Abercrombie gets a lot of deserved hate for his more recent books but this trilogy was fine.
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2025 In Publishing Moving In On Less Traditional Works, As Per Locus Magazine's Monthly People & Publishing Round-Up

June
MATT DINNIMAN sold print rights to This Inevitable Ruin, seventh book in the Dungeon Crawler Carl series, to Jessica Wade at Ace via Seth Fishman of the Gernert Company.

August
KENNY KING sold three books in LitRPG series How I Became the World’s Strongest Warrior by Using Basic Attacks to Jason Pinter at Simon Maverick at auction.

TAO WONG resold self-published fantasies The First Step, The First Stop, and The First War to Anne Sowards at Ace via Seth Fishman of The Gernert Company

September
SHIRTALOON & TRAVIS DEVERELL resold three books in the He Who Fights with Monsters series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault via Seth Fishman of The Gernert Company. Damian Wassel will edit.

Three books in JOHN BIERCE’s Mage Errant series resold to Rhett Bruno at Aethon via M.H.F. Saint of Achilles Literary Agency.

RHAEGAR resold three books in the Azarinth Healer series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault via Brooks Aspden at Portal Books. Damian Wassel will edit.

LUKE CHMILENKO resold three books in the Ascend Online fantasy series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

JN CHANEY resold three books in the Backyard Starship series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

MICHAEL CHATFIELD resold three books in the Ten Realms series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

J.R. MATHEWS resold three books in the Jake’s Magical Market series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

JEZ CAJIAO resold the Age of Stone series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

YRSILLAR resold three books in the Forge of Destiny series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault via Lenny Herbert of Maximum Orbit.

BENJAMIN KEREI resold the Unorthodox Farming fantasy series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

DAVID NORTH resold three books in the Guardian of Aster Fall series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

TRAVIS BAGWELL resold three books in the Awaken Online LitRPG series to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.

October
JONATHAN YANEZ’s SF litRPG Hard Reset sold to Marilyn Kretzer at Blackstone Publishing via Adam Chromy of Movable Type Management.

TURTLEME’s fantasy web novel series The Beginning After the End went to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault.
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>>24823979
I hate the average modern reader Jesus Christ
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>>24823979
That's so bodalious bro. It's like, fucking badass and shit these mother fuckers were able to get the corporate pigs to seem them out. Yes make the man beg. Revolution in the publishing industry. Have them come to you.
Millennial writers are here.
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>>24823615
It is a weird series. I don't think any of the books are any good, but still I would recommend finishing them. The Dark Forest is definitely the best out of the trilogy.
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Just finished fall of hyperion
>see you later, alligator
>in a while, crocodile
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>My name is Cassius Bellona. Son of Tiberius. Son of Julia. Morning Knight, and my honor remains.
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>>24824040
The fact that anyone still recommends Hyperion is flabbergasting. It was shit when it was published and The Terror is the same book by the same author just done better
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>>24824071
>Hyperion and The Terror are the same book
???
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>>24824071
>How can I be contrarian and wrong, today?
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>>24824074
>bunch of crazies get on a ship, get rekt by incomprehensible cosmic horror, learn (whatever)

The stage and props are different but that's about all
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>>24823223
Bimbo sisters soon, brothers.
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>>24824070
The Red Rising series is so fucking corny and all of the memorable parts are just enjoyable characters getting killed
Entertaining? Sure
But there were a couple of times when it fucking took me out of it
>Clang clang "CONFESS"
Was probably the worst offender
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red rising is just hunger games written by a zionist
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>>24824070
best boy
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>>24824112
Almost every book is written by Zionists
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Is the world of BOTNS supposed to look something like Kenshi?
Having a hard time picturing it
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>>24823615
The dark forest is good.
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>>24823979
Also included in this was that it listed a few male sff authors getting seven figure ($1m+) deals for new series, including Jay Kristoff (Empire of the Vampire).
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>>24823979
So the new meta is just publishing stuff on Royal Road?
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>>24824268
That's just a few. Each month has a lot listed out, so no, not the meta. It's a boost for the already successful in this case.
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>>24823979
I feel nauseous.
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Im rereading old mans war trilogy, its not that fun as I remembered
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how many books do you usually read in a year more or less?

i've just counted and i've read 16 books in the last year. it's not so bad as i expected, i had the feeling i've read much less than that. the most i've read in a year ever i think is less than 30
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>>24824567
About a novel every week
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>>24824567
I read a 400 page novel in about 1.5-2 weeks, so I'm on pace for about 25-30 per year.
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>>24823378
horror story of things to cum/came
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>>24824567
about 10
I can go through a novel in a day if it's really good.
but I usually get caught up in mediocre books, and use much longer time to get through those
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>>24823712
>>24823615
>Liu
>Liu
What is this like Smith over there?
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Any books that feel like the original Star Wars trilogy?
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>>24824775
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_Chinese_surnames
>The top five surnames in China – Wang, Li, Zhang, Liu, Chen – are also the top five surnames in the world, each with over 70-100 million worldwide.
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>>24824222
>Empire of the Vampire
The anon that said this book was a super edgy shonen anime was right. I started it today and while it's fast-paced it is super corny. Feels like it was written by an AP English student. At one point one of the characters says something about "getting down to the tacks of brass. The hideous Tumblr-tier "art" in the book is the icing on the cake.
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>>24824810
>>24824775
there are like 5 different "Liu" in china. They're all pronounced slightly different but it doesn't translate well into English.
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>>24824818
Zamn. Delete this confusing ass language
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>>24824070
Cringe as fuck. Thank god I dropped this garbage in the middle of the second book
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Man, I want to like Raymond E Feist, but I have to admit, his books are kind of mid.
After finishing both the Riftwar Saga, and the Empire Trilogy, I felt like his work was still too immature, creatively speaking. So I figured I would skip to one of his later works. Choosing the book King of Ashes, because it's not connected to the world of Midkemia. It's a fresh start in a new world. And it came out in 2018, so it's fairly recent. I expected a more mature writer.

It's a let down. Raymond hasn't grown as a writer at all. I could go into detail, but I'm tired right now. Suffice it to say, it's incredibly tepid. The stakes are low, the character writing is super basic. Both dialogue and exposition sound like a synopsis of the current situation, rather than feeling natural. He keeps retelling the relationship dynamics between character like he's reading a character sheet, rather than just having the characters be who they are supposed to be.

I made it into the second book of the trilogy. Queen of Storms. And I'm just bored as fuck. There's nothing to really give a shit about. All the scenarios are incredibly cliche. No cleverness whatsoever. Just going through the motions of a tale, without the emotional weight to make you feel it. Plus, the second book most takes place on two ships, and I HATE boat stories.

I guess I'm giving up on Raymond E Feist. After seven and a half books, I have to admit he's just kind of a bland writer. Blah.
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About to read this what do I think of it?
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>>24823223
Currently reading Blood of The Fold. It's a bit repetitive overall, but still a good read.
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Lysander MUST die
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>>24824086
>feMC
shan't be reading
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>>24824525
The original is decent, if unspectacular. I've not been impressed with anything else Scalzi has written that I've read - enough so that I've stopped reading any of his stuff.

It's better than slop like Maas or VE Schwab, but not by much.
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>>24824901
Serpentwar is the best thing he ever wrote, nothing he wrote before or after comes close.
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>>24824784
Mortal Engines?
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There's nothing wrong with reading for entertainment only, even if what you are reading has little to no literary value
And yes, I am enjoying dungeon crawler carl thank you very much
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>>24825378
damn this came out of nowhere. Insecure much. And there is something wrong with what you said actually.
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>>24825378
same but i read Peter Hamilton books
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Any good?
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>>24825538
our guy matt (and my friend) loved it
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>>24824784
Read what inspired Star Wars.

>Barsoom
>Flash Gordon
>Tarzan
>New Gods
>Leigh Brackett's books
>Dune
>JRR Tolkien
>Don Juan novels
>CS Lewis
>Valerian
>Foundation
>Wagner's Ring Cycle
>Buck Rogers
>Tintin
>Carlos Castenada
>East Asian/Dharmic religion
>The Bible
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Anyone got some recommendations for good (or at least decent) Mil-SF? Preferably stuff more in the vein of Starship Troopers or Hammer's Slammers, where the focus is on planetary combat instead of starship battles.
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>>24825538
From what little I read of it to see if it may be worth reading, it seemed like it could have potential. I may read it this year, though there are several other books in the queue before it currently.
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>>24825589
The Hidden Fortress...
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>>24823223
>AI slop
Kys
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>almost goes through death and slavery with Typhon
>walks it off and becomes one with nature and shit until he reaches the town by the lake
>time to become the bully :^)
>ultimately gets arrested for acting like a retard
I knew Severian was slow but zamn
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I haven't read any of these. Are they good?
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>>24824567
I read two books yesterday. Two the day before. I haven't read one yet today because I've gotten bored of the series I was reading and I'm looking for something else. Once I find something I'll probably make inroads on that before I go to bed.
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>>24825948
Sabriel is the only good book on that list. I haven't read the others, but I know in my bones it is true.
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>>24824567
Usually, about 20.
This year, about 10.
But 2 of them are the Stephen Kotkin Stalin books, which are bricks and have me checking stuff all the time.

Reading isn't my primary hobby, video games rob me of time too.
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>>24824567
I read about one book, maybe two, a month.

>>24825978
>video games rob me of time too.
I just can't do it any more. I can't find joy in videogames, I don't know if it's my ages (mid 30s), or what. but sitting in front of a computer or sitting at a TV and pushing around characters, clicking abilities, listening to their dialogue, feels like rot to me. and yet I continuously am looking for another game to play. thanks for reading my blog
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Is Dragonriders of Pern good? The original trilogy at least
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>>24824567
I've read 25 this year according to goodreads
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>>24823624
It was okay, but the first book was good enough to make me expected more. I enjoyed the worldbuilding and the setting and some of the "twists", but the ending felt like it was deliberately designed to "subvert expectations" rather than pay off in any satisfying way. One of the characters is clearly the teacher's pet, but he wasn't my favourite, so there goes that. Don't regret reading it but I wouldn't go out of my way to read it either.
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>>24826051
enjoyable lightweight YA reading
tower & hive and the crystal singer series are alright too

if you're older than ~16 maybe don't bother
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>>24824901
He is a decent fun 6.5/10 writer, dont expect the prose to be like Guy Gavriel Kay or Frank Herbert in Dune, but its better than any recent fantasy book authors (with the exception of Tad Williams). He's a poor man's David Gemmell, but that doesnt make him bad or unreadable.
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https://rehfoundation.org/save-the-reh-museum/
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>>24824901
Forget Feist and focus on Janny Wurts
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>>24825724
>>24825589
Galactic Patrol / Lensman series, E.E. "Doc" Smith
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>>24823615
Halfway through The Dark Forest.
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>>24825266
absolutely not
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>>24825538
No. Totally pozzed.
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Any good historical fantasy?
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>>24825218
I doubt his best lives up to my standards. The guy is a fantasy writer, but he's allergic to magic. In King of Ashes, he makes a big deal about how amazing the arts were of the kingdom of Ithrace. That they were all master dancers, and architects, and were the most beautiful people, and yadda yadda.
The main character is a cliched orphaned Prince of Ithrace. So after all the talk about how amazing the people were, one would expect the talent to blossom in the main character. But the main character doesn't display any affinity for the arts, except in a single scene. Where in passing, it's mentioned that he took a job as a blacksmith's apprentice for a very brief period. And during that small period of time, he excelled at the work. That's it. In the 1 and a half books I've read, only a single paragraph mentions he's artfully talented at something. Yet, being artfully talented is the entire thing about these legendary people. It's so fucking lame how little Raymond utilizes the very concepts he introduces. What is even the point in reminding us again and again and again about the legendary talents of the people, if you're not going to actually exemplify them?!

This is a core issue with all of his writing. Which is why I doubt Serpentwar is any better. he's just going to introduce a new fantasy concept, and then never utilize it, and blab on about his shallow character dynamics, or shallow politics.

>>24826167
lol, there's an idea. Maybe I should. Maybe Raymond was holding her back.

>>24826058
>but its better than any recent fantasy book authors
Hard disagree.
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>>24826347
>lol, there's an idea. Maybe I should. Maybe Raymond was holding her back.
I guarantee you that Wars of Light and Shadow runs circles around 9/10 fantasy series ever written
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>>24823712
Thats unfortunate because Liu is usually really good
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>>24824920
>halfway in dunno what's going on
I think I'm a midwit.
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>>24826368
Her earlier series, Cycle of Fire, is really good too.
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I'm in a funk and don't know what to read. Feel like high fantasy but at the same time want to read some cyberpunk stuff but I know as soon as I picked up the cyberpunk I'll regret it because I want to read high fantasy, but nothing is capturing me right now
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>>24826481
So pick up a short-story collection.
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>>24826368
Oh my fucking god, Wars of Light has a fucky read order. Normally Goodreads is reliable for finding the publication order of books. But I can't find it there.
Turns out only the first, tenth, and eleventh book in the series has audio version. Which is odd.
In searching for the other audiobooks, I found a review for the second book. https://everybookadoorway.com/it-doesnt-get-better-the-ships-of-merior-by-janny-wurts/?utm_source=www.google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Google&referrer-analytics=1

That reviewer dislikes Janny's writing for all the things that I disliked Raymond's writing for. Plus, the second book is another boat story. So now I don't even want to start the series. If it's going to be the same style as Raymond, and if I have to get through another boat book, it doesn't even seem worth it. Maybe the other books didn't get audio versions because they're actually bad?
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>>24826397
Yes, yes, it is. I posted my follow up thoughts on Goodreads in a message, which I won't be posting here. Doesn't in any way diminish what else he's done, and he has another short fiction collection coming out, which should be good.
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>>24826481
I had a similar feeling and le Guin's Earthsea books got me out of this. You can start and stop with book 1 if you like, but the books all do share the same universe and I have enjoyed all that I've read so far. It's not expansive and thick and "epic" like whatever Sanderson is up to or or GRRM or Tolkien or anything like that, but it is quiet, subtle, and most importantly warm.

if I may offer some modern cyberpunk books, I really enjoyed Void Star by Zachary Mason and Titanium Noir by Harkaway
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>>24824567
I'm right at 30 this year, which is slower than my goal of 40. But usually I read a couple a month - lower when I'm reading something dense or that I should drop, faster if I'm really enjoying it.

>>24826013
I, too, am mid-30s, spend too much money on games I barely play, and only enjoy a handful of games (exclusively for gameplay) anymore. Rogueslop is the primary thing that engages me anymore, I just can't get myself to give a shit about any sort of story in vidya these days.
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>>24826481
I heartily recommend Murderbot Chronicles. It's a cyberpunk corpodystopia with story beats of a spy thriller or noir, and each of the first four books are only like 150 pages each.
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>>24826496
I don't care about audiobooks, I'm not blind
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>>24826558
the cover on the left actually put me off the book for years. it was only after i found pic related at a used bookstore that i finally decided to read it.
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>>24826601
>rogueslop
based and same. I do still play some games but yes they are primarily roguelikes or roguelites in which I can play a game in single sitting. DCSS and Balatro. Oh and: digital board games.
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>>24826645
jesus christ so many things wrong with that picture in the cover, it's terrible
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>>24826617
But can you read and draw at the same time?
Read and do the dishes?
Read and take a sh- well actually, you can do that. But still.
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>>24826754
I feel that reading and drawing at the same time would make you halfass both.
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>>24826754
i read and walk or stretch at the same time, it's great. i wish i read more for that reason
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>>24826754
Why would I want to do those things at the same time? When I read, I read in total silence without any other distractions. One of the few pleasures of life is to get in bed or on the couch with a book and just let everything outside the book disappear.
Though I read on the bus too and that's not as comfy
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>>24826754
>>24826795
Yeah I listen to an audiobook while I walk on the treadmill :^) I still read the words on my phone and turn the pages but it's nice to have someone read to you.
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>>24824086
>Another Black Company book after Port of Shadows flopped.
Jesus, how old is Glen Cook anyway?
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Reminder that Lysander did nothing wrong and is right about reforming the society being better for humanity than Darrows failed democracy.
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>>24824901
Firemane is one of Feist's weaker trilogies, even fans of him will admit that. Just read Serpentwar, it's easily his peak and is pretty much standalone.
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>>24825625
Looking Glass Series by John Ringo
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>>24825625
how does hammers slammers compare to starship troopers? i tried out the first some time ago i think, but it looked basically like slop so i thought it's nothing at all like starship troopers. but maybe i stopped reading too soon
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I keep wanting to continue reading Wheel of Time but every time I do I get bored to tears and stop after a few chapters.
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How long do you give a book before you decide to drop it. Currently reading Empire of the Vampire and I’m not that invested but it’s still early, around chapter 7.
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>>24826780
I just take twice the time to get the work done.

>>24826817
I dunno, that's just how my brain works. It need a distraction in order to focus, ironically.
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>>24826877
if a book does not have me hooked by chapter 5 i just speed read it while listening to music, and keep going until something interesting happens.
if it still does not hook me at any point I give up on the series
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>>24826877
It depends. Usually I give a book about 50 pages. If it's a big long fantasy book or something I give it 100 or so.
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How does /lit/ feel about Dennis L. McKiernan?
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Is there any buzz at all here for the new Tui WOF book.
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>>24826877
At 70 pages you should be certain whether you like it or not.
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>>24826827
Only matters if it's actually him writing it.
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I don't read webslop or litrpg, but I gave Dungeon Crawler Carl a shot and it really is pretty good. How does /sffg/ feel about it?
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>>24827024
It's okay, slop but okay.
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>>24827024
It could be the greatest book of all time, I am not reading something called "Dungeon Crawler Carl".
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>>24827078
Same. I've read the summary though, and it sounds like a complete slopfest.
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>>24827024
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=56791389
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>>24827024
Shit for shitheads.
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>just got to the part of Way of Kings where Kaladin survived the highstorm
Sanderson really likes making fantasy Jesus characters with names that start with K.
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>>24827283
Kassadin isn't really Jesus at that point in the story...
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>>24824567
Six or seven
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>>24827024
One of the rare better in audiobook format.
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POV: you've been scourging the Shire with your ruffian buddies, and these four little fags show up completely decked out in epic-level gear, and they've been quaffing entish uber-elixirs.
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Empire of the Vampire Challenge: Start reading the book and see how far you can get before you suffer from cringe overload. I think I got to the part about "the blood of lions flows in your veins" and couldn't take it anymore. This was worse than Reddit Rising.
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>>24827429
I appreciate your weak stomach to cringe. Do you have any recommendations for high action fantasy I can enjoy that doesn't involve reddittor writing. Disqualified if you talk about Redditor crawler Carl
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>>24827461
Saga of the Forgotten Warrior by Larry Correia. Best fight scenes I've ever read in a fantasy series.
Anything David Gemmell wrote. Before I read Saga of the Forgotten Warrior I thought Gemmell wrote the best fight scenes in fantasy.
Badass heroes and beautiful women in both.
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>>24826336

Tim Powers
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>>24826336
Bernard Cromwell = The Winter King
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>>24827024
I'm on book four and it's entertaining slop. Numbers go up and all that
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>>24823615
The first book is the worst, but honestly it's not really worth slogging through the first one for the rest of the series. The series of fairytales that takes up half of the last book is the highlight of the entire series. I'd put it in the same bin as Richard K. Morgan: I don't particularly care for the plot or prose, but there's interesting ideas buried in there.
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>>24826336
Soldier of the Mist
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>>24827427
Surely the wizard leading your gang can defeat them no?
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>>24827464
Funnily, I remember someone on here also calling that Reddit because it features a bunch of men following a woman during a war.
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>>24827615
Neither of those authors is at all "Reddit."
All the Correia books have strong female characters, but he doesn't do the whole "stronk woman/emasculated man" humiliation ritual thing.
It's not like Reddit invented women being warriors/rogues/sorcerors in fantasy anyway. Just about every fantasy game I remember from when I was a kid had a chick on the cover, and that was years before Reddit even existed. Now every time a fantasy novel has a woman who isn't completely silent and clad in a burqa there's some faggot on this site screaming "Reddit! Reddit!"
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Red Rising is the worst book I've read all year.
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Post red-blooded male escapist stories. Books were the macho tough guy kills the villains, saves and marries the princess, etc.
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>>24827780
>Saves the whore princess
So simp escapism. Recommend escapist stories where the hero curb stomps whores and homosexuals
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>>24823378
Das Fuher would enjoy Ghormenghast
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>>24824090
The setting is so cliché I couldn't read past page 10
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The second book of karsa's trilogy is out
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>>24827818
Does he have a personality yet?
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I really like the cliffhanger at the end of the first LS book where Silk walks into the room where someone is speaking like him. It is obviously Horn if you think about it or pay attention, but if you don't or didn't when it was released, you have to wait a year to find out. Good luck using the internet at the time to find out if you aren't an autist.

Horn may have been partially making fun of Silk, but I think on some level, he already wanted to become like Silk.
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>>24823609
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>>24827840
He doesn't show up I think
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>>24827854
I'm still mad he didn't finish it up
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>>24827861
When the Gene Wolfe archive releases, we can find out whether he seriously ever thought about a sequel to Sidon or not.
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>>24823378
The once and future king
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Can someone help me making a comprehensive list of general science-fantasy fiction and subgenres encompassing all mediums?
Thus far I can think of
>Book Of The New Sun
>Dune
>Dying Earth Series
>Chronicles Of Amber
>Barsoom series
>Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind
>The Five Star Stories
>Vampire Hunter D
>Bastard!! Heavy Metal Dark Fantasy
>Aura Battler Dunbine
>Vision Of Escaflowne
>Code Geass
>Might & Magic series
>Wizardry 6-8
>Final Fantasy 6-8
>Chrono Trigger
>Xenoblade Chronicles
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>>24828110
Star Wars.
Does Doom count?
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>>24828110
One Piece
Shannara
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>>24828116
>One Piece
Does Grove Adventure Rave count more as well technically? It's a generic shounen to it's core but the setting has shit like Modern cities, technology and cars coexisting alongside dragons, monsters and fantastical dungeons and places.
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>>24828128
>Modern cities, technology and cars coexisting alongside dragons, monsters and fantastical dungeons and places
Isn't that just urban fantasy? Modernity is not scifi, it's just modernity.
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>>24828110
Mass effect
Deltron 3030
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>>24828148
Isn't Mass Effect just scifi though? Or are you going by "psychic powers are magic"?
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>>24826827
This one actually continues the story. PoS was weird interquel no one asked for.
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>>24828154
>Or are you going by "psychic powers are magic"?
Yes?
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>>24823223
>/sffg/ with 200 replies
>no mention of the GOAT
lit has fallen
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>>24828235
Then roughly 84% of all sci-fi ever written is just fantasy.
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>>24828249
>lit has fallen
Because of newfag niggers like your crossboarding spamming ass.



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