This guy is like Ready Player One for snobs. His literature is nothing but obscure fun facts and trivia mashed together in a book without any substance. Every sentence is just a snobbish exercise to include more and more references and mundane humor. >What do you mean you did not enjoy the 300 pages of description of german rocket architecture?? Filtered!!No I did not. Just as I did not enjoy the endless charade of fun facts regarding old school Nintendo games in Ready Player One. >But isn't it funny how his character's names are ridiculous like Mucho Maas, Mike Fallopian, Judith Prietht (hahaha Judas Priest!!)No, sorry I'm not 5. If Sum Ting Wong is the top of humour in post-modernism then it is no wonder why SNL is so popular in America.
>>24823483>This guy is like Ready Player One for snobs.I don't agree that he has no substance, but this was fucking funny.
>>24823483He's fun :D. Relax, guy!
>be CIA agent detailing every single covert op your company is involved in in coded language>retards think your books are just Leftist Trivia Nightyou're exactly like the people who read ready player one, except instead of seal clapping you furrow your brow, and you see ready player one everywhere
I got filtered and PYNCHED by GR
>>24823637Schizo, take your meds
get around to bleeding edge and it's basically ready player one with references to pokemon and hideo kojima
>>24823483>>What do you mean you did not enjoy the 300 pages of description of german rocket architecture?? Filtered!!This is just a deliberate misrepresentation of the book by someone who was filtered within 50 pages
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>>24823483>No I did not. Just as I did not enjoy the endless charade of fun facts regarding old school Nintendo games in Ready Player One.One of my first podcasts I listened all the way through was about Ready Player One, had one of the Rifftrax guys. It's been years but one of the things they noticed was when the main character was yammering about all the 80s media shit he consumed Nintendo was conspicuously absent.
>>24825437He'll release his 4th big novel posthumously to give more money to his children.
He is the hackiest hack of modern literature
>>24823483>This guy is like Ready Player One for snobs.RPO + Rick & Morty. If you want genre fiction, Cornell chum Vonnegut's keeping it real.
Op was a faggot again
>>24823483>character's names are ridiculous like Mucho Maas, Mike Fallopian, Judith PriethtYikes.
>greatest american satirist of the 20th century>no substancemaybe you should stick to video games?Pynchon was pretty much right about everything
>>24823483>>But isn't it funny how his character's names are ridiculous like Mucho Maas, Mike Fallopian, Judith Prietht (hahaha Judas Priest!!)boomers think this is the peak of comedy for some reason
>>24825954>greatest american satirist of the 20th centuryThis is the saddest thing I've read this whole month. Pynchon is the greatest satirist for people who think Adam Sandler is the greatest comedian
>>24825539The "stretched his legs" of Ready Player One, perhaps.
>>24823483>Endless diatribes about rocket science>Outlandish character namesMore reasons as to why Mason & Dixon is his superior novel. The fictional character names are believable and the fictionalizing of living persons is as well.
>>24825808I'm on the fence about Pynchon, but I like his character names. He calls a lot of attention to the artifice of fiction, but sometimes they work as puzzles as well (why is Oedipa Maas named after Oedipus? Who is the Kenosha Kid?)
>>24825539>when the main character was yammering about all the 80s media shit he consumed Nintendo was conspicuously absentDo you think they feared a "cease and desist"?
I know this is bait but no one reads Gravity's Rainbow for the obscure 40s references.
Pynchon is painful for me because I worked in Aerospace and Defense and, honestly, this is just what every conversation with a career engineer or any former military technician is like.>All the techs and mechanics are alcoholic veterans who worked on missile systems, drones, and ISR birds>Every engineer is completely fucked up about how they started their career to build the future of humanity in space and help people but wound up building death planes, missile systems, and surveillance satellites.>If you're already a part of the company and also under NDA they WILL tell you a lot of the super secret squirrel shit they worked on >Random plain clothes intelligence officers from various DOD and alphabet agencies will periodically show up to tour or try to get employees to leak info.
>>24823483>snobs>sorry I'm not 5woman or redditor, call it
>>24823483Man, I hate how much Pynchon is hated here. On reddit at r/thomaspynchon I have enlightening discussions about themes, prose, symbolism, etc.
>>24826146No you don't.
>>24826146yep, for all the making fun of reddit people do he's actually got one of the biggest subreddits of any litfic authors
>>24826146Lol, most of the posts are gay ass questions about where to begin with his work, fags sharing their fan art, shilling YouTube reviews, endlessly repeated theories and interpretations, etc.
>>24826146Wow, just had a look. A lot more interesting discussion than the endless "Pynchon sucks" threads we get here.
>>24826199I don't hate Pynchon but I certainly would not call him a classic. He writes genre fiction mixed with obscure facts about random things like CIA plots, rocket science, conspiracy theories. For me he is not better than a Philip K. Dick, they write in the same ballpark, Dick is just more easily digestible because he is not that post-modern and plot is still important in his literature.He comes off as a try-hard who writes to be influential in snobbish circles. Only the themes of his novels are interesting, the cultural shifts which he represents in his literatue. The plots are boring or non-existent, his characters are 1 dimensional charicature plot devices without personality, the humor is dry. Even if I liked the noir detective genre - which I don't - I would not wanna read him, because he is just dull. Apart from Mason & Dixon he is a one-trick pony and all of his novels are based around the same paranoid conspiracy theory fueled psychosis which is tangled in a not-so-satisfying detective plot.
>>24826146>>24826199/lit/cels could neverWell, I can only speak on GR because I’ve never actually read V but I want to preface this by saying that I don’t think GR necessarily deals with America as a major thematic at all. He mentions the idea of America in passing from time to time, mostly in the course of the recounting of Slothrop’s ancestors, but the focus is always on America as it stands in relation to whatever larger thing he’s exploring. We never really deal with what Pynchon thinks about America qua America although we do get hints. From the recounting of Slothrop’s heritage we see an America which is not yet fully formed: the sense of community is a kind of inverse view of Protestant paranoia, the class structures of the old world impose themselves in a decaying form (the very decay of Slothrop’s own family line as evidence to this), the wealth of the new world is founded in SA and pillage of the land (Slothrop's family fortune based on paper mills, and deforestation which Pynchon takes specific note of, as an example), the cultural memory is shattered (Slothrop’s inability to remember his own Father’s face or what he said to him), and etc. Notably, these things don’t all happen at once. It’s a steady rate of decay which eats at Slothrop much like the paranoia which consumes him ever so slowly. When you compare it to his treatment of Europe it’s interestingly different. Pynchon treats Europe like a collection of old phobias and prejudices which states and economies masquerade over. Even the home of the paranoid plot, Them, is based in the old world. I think Pynchon is a much more directly emotional writer than he is a writer of systems if that makes any sense.I mean that when you really boil down all of the paranoia and plots it really comes down to an emotional connection between two people in one way or another. The firing of the 00000 was ultimately due to the relationship between Gottfried and Blicero, Slothrop’s surveillance is due to Pointsman’s relationship with his friend who died (who we can assume was handling the operation, seeing as there was one, before him), Slothrop’s answer to the call of adventure was spurred by his pain for Tantivy. In a way he paints America as having less of these emotional burdens than the old world and offers up a picture of a fresh start. Not because of new laws or societal orientations or anything else like that fundamentally, but simply because the people are less burdened by the weight of the past. Edit: Like that Marx quote ‘the dead weighed like horrors on the minds of the living’
>>24826146I hate to agree because I hate reddit but I have to. The best you can get here is some surface level readings.
>>24826345>Even if I liked...which I don't...I would not wanna read him, becauseYOU haven't (or you're a fool, but I don't guess you're quite able to see this)No conspiracy that what characterizes the present age are strong opinions based on complete ignorance. Its 'leadership' reflects this, of course>plot...plot...plot.Kek
>>24826401First learn English son
>>24826359>I think Pynchon is a much more directly emotional writerCompletely agree here, and in all phases. That early exuberance of presentation in the first three novels is unmatched *anywhere* and why he'll continue to be read (by readers). Whatever the subject matter, his books are full of life
>>24826409Kek. Strange that YOU should 'know English' and not know how to read, b
>>24826345Yeah, he’s pretty much PKD with good prose.
>>24823975lol have you even read pynchon nigga?
>>24823483If Ernest Cline was substantially more schizo, Ready Player One could approach the bar set by Pynch's works unironically. Unfortunately he's a fat jakfaced normie instead.
>>24825961Who are your favorite satirists of the 20th century?
>>24825954>>greatest american satirist of the 20th centuryYep, so true. I put him up there with Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett as my holy trinity of satire.
>>24825961Pynchon was only proven right with time. Hypersexuality, pop culture replacing high culture, glowie ops and psyops, disintegration of Meaning etc are their all-time high. GR is almost prophetic.
>>24827054This might sound weird but sometimes I feel like there “forces” trying to keep the truth, as specifally revealed by Pynchon, from coming out.
>>24826009>Reverend Cherrycoke
>>24826009>Outlandish character namesRead Bleeding Edge, things get even more ridiculous. Anthony Weiner, Jerome Powell, Charles Koch, Elizabeth Holmes. And Sam Bankman-Fried is just the cherry on top. Pynchon is a clown.
>>24827069What do you mean?
>>24827107Jesus....
>>24827119Basically there was this thread on reddit where OP was showing all the connections Pynchon was making about the CIA, rothschilds, politicians, and executives of major corporations. It was literally mindblowing what Pynchon was exposing. The next day I went back to read it again but the thread was deleted. Even the comments were removed. And on top of all that the OP’s account was deleted. It was…strange…to say the least.
>>24826379If you follow group reads on reddit on the better subs, they can be insightful. Mostly insufferable, but sometimes insightful. r/ThomasPynchon has one for all his books and r/RSBookclub had an ok one for GR. r/TrueLit has some blog of GR and now M&D.I don't know why people expect in depth discussion on 4chan. Reddit, for all its faults, is more built for it. Plus too many zoomer retards here.
>>24826435Now that's some real trvke.
