Why don't zoomers get Murakami? A decade ago there were daily threads about him on /lit/. Nowadays you won't even see a single one. Was he a fad whose time has passed?
>>24827547Millennials were the last generation that even pasasingly had a familiarity with going out as young adults and then becoming lonely. Many of his books deal with learning to move on from a decent childhood/adolescence, about becoming lonely at some point. Zoomers are lonely but live at home so aren’t truly alone, they never really went out so they don’t understand social regret or being young professionals who live on their own. They also don’t seem to enjoy fitness or even going out for a walk. Without connections like that these to his work/characters it leaves the plots as a focal point and they’d rather indulge in manga and shit. That being said give it time they may eventually grow up and move on from manga in their late 20s and 30s and matriculate to Japanese writers.
>>24827547he is just YA with a bit of a pseudo-literary twist. Some good passages, but most of his work is deeply uninteresting. It’s like the literary equivalent of “lofi hip hop beats for studying”
>>24827547I hate how drawn in I was to Norwegian Wood. Toru just fucks a bunch of chicks and people kill themselves. I’m surprised Nagasawa’s girlfriend didn’t fuck him.
>>24827560Might be on to something here
>>24827617>I’m surprised Nagasawa’s girlfriend didn’t fuck him.She’s my waifu>>24827713I just wish I didn’t have so many typos. Reading it back is difficult lol.
>>24827560Zoomers work out way more than millennials ever did. It's actually pretty funny if you look at the average testosterone of the country it falls off a cliff when millennials were in their late teens/early 20s and only started to go up again when zoomers entered late puberty. For every tranny zoomer there was 100,000 millennial pushover simps
>>24827807Cool. Any thoughts on the topic?
>>24827560>That being said give it time they may eventually grow up and move on from manga in their late 20s and 30sOne can only hope, though meanwhile millennials are still very in to capeshit
>>24827560Pretty funny seeing zoomers throw effeminate tantrums at this post. Wonder how they're going to react when gen A turns around and accuses them of the same random shit they blame millennials for.
>>24827560Earlier today I was thinking about something to write about that isn't just me bemoaning how disaffected and dispossessed I feel à la Houellebecq. Unfortunately for me, I'm not creative enough like Lovecraft was.
Are zoomers even capable of reading something other than short social media posts? lol
>>24827617What can I say, I loved Norwegian Wood. Fantastic atmosphere, left a bigger impression than many more "important" novels I've read. Anyway, zoomers are completely dehumanised by social media and have no idea what it means to be a real person with hopes and dreams not given from up above, somewhere. No experiences of their own.
>>24829280You pretend that you're different, but you're just as much possessed by ressentiment as reactionaries typically are. Do you even know what it means to be a real person whose needs aren't conditioned from without? Stop kidding yourself.
>>24827547I'm a 27 yo zoomer and I get Murakami so far. Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World is still probably my favorite novel of all time.
>>24829288Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't really matter if I explain myself here or not.
no cap Ryu>Haruki fr
He sucks and I'm glad his moment has passed. Read better books faggot.
>>24829748Like, such as?
>>24827560>Many of his books deal with learning to move on from a decent childhood/adolescence, about becoming lonely at some point. >yeah it's not relatable to me as a zoomer, because I've been alone the whole fucking time enclosed in my room, like many other kids whose parents are paranoid and don't want you to be outside much.before there were even ads in the TV at 9pm or so that remembered parents they had kids so go out to look for them or check if they came back
>>24827560 You're basing your analysis on a laughably caricatured version of the truth, the reality is that the sexual recession and supposed resentment between the genders, while real, is not nearly as culturally dominant irl as the slop pundits working for mainstream publications would have you believe. While zs are dull in comparison to prior generations, they are still going out and having sex, living out something of a charmed youth to reminisce on when they turn 40, let themselves go, and inevitably let their high flying ambitions succumb to the maw of The Cubicle.
>>24827547the only reason anyone cared about him was because he won an oscar.
>Another basedllennial seethe threadComplaining about zoomers on 4chan won't make your hairline stop receding, it won't make younger women want to fuck you, it won't make your dick start working all of a sudden, it won't compensate for your wasted youth and it won't make you any less fat and old and ugly. You're a failed human being. You internalised the seethe that boomers had towards you and redirected it all at zoomers, you became the thing you hated.
>>24830536Calm down, go take a tide pod.
>>24827547I'm 22 and I enjoy Murakami. Kafka on the Shore is my favourite so far, but I haven't gotten to IQ84 or Wind Up Bird yet.
>>24827547He got too popular so now he’s hated here. Seen the Corncob threads?
>>24830591Just be aware that 1Q84 is probably his weakest work, while simultaenously a ridiculous doorstopper.
>>24827547What's there to get about Murakami? He's pop af. That's like saying zoomers don't get Katy Perry.
>>24827547Not really a Zoomer issue - he's also out of fashion with the literary elite, the grown-ups in charge. Try recommending him to a professor sometime. He's really a 90s phenomenon which some millennials caught the tail end of. Beforethe churn of unoriginal books killed his name.But don't worry Haruki, I will always love you
>ITT: Anons going "Ugh do zoomers even touch grass lel" on a website where the next board over has their peers roping themselves over femoids who puppeteer anime girl mascots having relationships irl
his publisher stopped paying whatever viral marketing firm was spamming him
>>24830676You don't understand—we touched /more/ grass in our youths of yore! and are hence better-equipped to handle matters of the soul, despite our decade+ of digital isolation congruent with that of the rest of humanity!
>>24830703It's funny how they don't realize zoomers are about to become 30 soon and also haven't spent their youth with phones, ipads etc.
>>24829280I want to shit all over it. But I can’t because the online discourse about it is so embarrassingly philistine that I feel compelled to defend it. I’ll say this as well. You all hate on No Longer Human when Norwegian Wood is far more deserving of the ire.
>>24830711Bro the oldest gen z year is like 96/97 depending on your definition. They were 9 when the iPhone came out. Most of their childhood, especially considering they obviously don’t remember the first three years, was spent with iPads, iPhones and social media. And that’s the oldest of them. More than half are younger than the iPhone as a technology.
>>24830536>>24830450>>24830676Absolute zoomer (singular) meltdown.
>>24829256Probably in a similar manner to millennials when we grew into maturity
>>24831040Conceptually, sure, but novels don't live in concept alone. Dazai's novel (of which the translation entitled 'A Shameful Life' was much superior) lacked the proper internality to sell the depression that it pushed. Murakami's was much more entertaining and conveyed the feeling of being a meandering, lost youth much more convincingly, even if it wasn't all that much about anything or conveyed anything all that didactic or general. Or that it was really lazy about concluding the character arcs. Dazai's prose isn't much fun to read in comparison, and on a pure entertainment scale isn't even comparable.
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>>24827865seething
>>24831278>no uwhat a smart answer
>>24827807Tell me you're a manlet without telling me you're a manlet, lol.
