I did not fall for the Stoner psyop. I will not fall for the Stoner psyop.
>>24828634>conspiracyThat's just marketing and advertisement. "No, companies do not put forth any effort to have their products be purchased by changing the public's opinion regarding said product" is immediately seen as retarded to believe.
>>24828634>twitterscreencap threadThey probably prompted an AI for books to republished and it picked up all the threads we've had about it for the past idk 15 years.
marketing in my 4chinz?
>>24828634I found Stoner to be well-written but incredibly banal.
I never read Stoner, but I thought I might give it a shot because I liked Butcher's Crossing so much.
>>24828634I lost what little interest I had in it when I found out its loner protagonist had a wife.
>>24828776The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night
I loved Stoner so much it lifted me from depression (learned helplessness) into action
It's been popular on /lit/ for way longer than that. Yes I've liked it before it was cool.
>>24828634Stoner was a great read. Idk why you'd deprive yourself of something good just so you can satisfy some contrarian itch.
He should have run away with that phd student he screwed in a hotel. His daughter became an alcoholic either way.
>>24828989He should have done a lot of things, like slap up his wife when she started trying to break up their father daughter bonding time. Or fought that cripple for the leadership position. I think the book was about inaction, and how avoiding seemingly unnecessary conflict can have large consequences in the long run. That, and how a failed life can still be worth living.
>>24828980When did Stoner become cool? I have my date, but I bet it differs from yours.
>>24828980It reached the peak of popularity in 2012-2013 though it already gained exceptional traction right when it came out in NYRB in 2006. So, /lit/fags can only get hipster points if they raved about it before 2010.
>>24829105I remember when the clogwogs were fawning over the Dutch translation on tv
Julian Barnes wrote a pretty convincing article on how and why Stoner got so big in 2013. It was organic and something of a fluke, helped along, of course, by its being a great novel. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/dec/13/stoner-john-williams-julian-barnesIf you consider the fact that NYRB had published it in the US in 2006, and Vintage in the UK in 2003, but it did not rocket in popularity and attention until several years later -- all the while, the publishers were putting out other books -- it makes no sense at all why either publisher would go back and expend tremendous effort on marketing a book several years in the past by a dead author with no trendy angle to aim for.
>>24828634I read it but didn't pay for it. Extremely mediocre.
>>24828634He rapes his wife, Edith.
He is literally me>>24829646You cannot rape your wife
>>24828634how popular is it? It's been talked about on normie internet recently likely because it's been popular here forever, the rest of the internet is downstream from 4chins
>>24830161>likely because it's been popular here forever4chan just took the bait earlier, as usual
>>24829343I thought it was because of a marketing push for a movie they were trying to make
>>24828776Where is it stated he’s a loner? He has friends in college, one lifelong friend too. Also his wife’s a cunt.
>>24830165>find an obscure song on spotify>it starts getting big on tiktok by paid influencers spamming it fuck it's normie trash now
No work without an intense political message is ever going to get astroturfed to popularity and high esteem in the literary world. These people are retarded.
>>24828634>1975 DatsunA 280z? Those are nice cars.
A professor buying two or three large pizzas is a sign he’s been compromised by Big Stoner?
>>24828634It doesn't matter who markets or shills content, all that's ever mattered is the content. In stoner's case, it's a decent book and depicts the regular tragedies of an incremental life. The prose is awful and boring and you can speedread through it in 1-2 days
>>24828634>and suddenly he has pizza money for the entire classThe department paid for that pizza. How retarded is that guy?
>>24828634Frank Edwins and the rest of NYRB loves to shill on /lit/ because, despite all their literary success, this is still the only place in the world you can actually come to to talk about books. I know you fags are reading this too.