Can I get some tips on reading this fucko's Iliad? It's cool as fuck but I'm running out of breath reading aloud these lines, they're so long. I have no idea what to do with punctuation like ; and : or even ,. I don't know shit about poetry
>>24829270i recommend reading his and Marlowe's Hero and Leander as an easier introduction to the style of the age.
>>24829270>can't pronounce 14 syllables without running out of breathEat less pizza and try cardio, fatty.
>Chapman's Boner
>>24829270Don't. If you want accuracy prose is better and if you want poetics, you can't copy Homer's in English, but Pope did his own thing, which was sublime.
>>24829406dumb elitist faggot, I already know.
>>24829410? How am I an elitist? I don't force you to learn Homer's greek, I just share the truth. I tried to ensure you knew what you were getting out of your purchase or time sink. What are your goals? How does Chapman do them better than a prose or Pope edition?
>>24829270Oh wow, it's Steve Jobs.
>>24829419This is the third Iliad translation I've read, I'm reading it for chapman
>>24829426Well he's not particularly as great as he's said to be, it sounds exotic in our time but true wit isn't there. Bravura is only present in Pope.
>>24829433alright well I'll get to pope's too.
>>24829435Well here's a side by side for comparison sake. I'd say the arguments from Chapman are better than the translation itself.
>>24829433>he's not particularly as great as he's said to bYou're a fucking moron that knows nothing about poetry. Pope's easier to enjoy, sure, but that doesn't make him better unless you're a complete pleb.
>>24829610What makes someone a pleb? I can parse him fine, but I do not enjoy his rhythm nor his diction, they are inelegant and ineffective in comparison to Pope.
>>24829621>I do not enjoy his rhythm nor his diction, they are inelegant and ineffective in comparison to Pope.That's the point, you're unable to appreciate a great poet because he's not confined within the extremely limited style of Pope. In comparison he is masculine and vital, sometimes overwrought, but also sometimes beautifully clear. His flaws are the product of his age just as his virtues are, and the Elizabethan age was a much greater one than the Augustan. There is far greater metrical freedom, more willingness to use enjambment, a wider palette in sound and subject matter. His barbarian strength was all too easy for the romantics to admire. Meanwhile the harmony of Pope's verse works upon a mere smoothness of sound and regular jingle, which usually occasions a simplification of construction and thus also of ideas and descriptions.
