For some reason nobody likes this book of dostoevesky. ive read TBK, idiot, crime punishment.
>>24831562It only started getting good in part 3, and even then I didn't really care for most of the characters except Shatov and Pyotr Verkhovensky.
>>24831562>The next book I'm reading, thoughts?No one cares.>For some reason nobody likes this book of dostoeveskyYou're ESL and it's one of his most popular books.
>>24831562TERRIBLE COVER, anon
>>24831639you cared enough sweaty. now tongue my hairy anus. hope its a good read thoughever>>24831643dont judge a book by its cover, anon
>>24831562>The next book I'm reading, thoughts?Don't care.
It’s a good book, but unlike his other works it isn't timeless and would've likely remained forgotten if not for who authored it. It's about a very specific kind of pre Soviet early Marxist which went existent when the bodies started dropping under Stalin. So if you don't have a well annotated edition or are willing to research stuff yourself you will be very confused.
>he didn't get the P&V cover
>>24832141shame TBK didn't get a cool cover like some of his other novels
>>24831562Idk, it's the next one I'll read. I'm currently reading The Idiot. Started out well, very funny, and reminded me more of Balzac or Maupassant than what I was used to from Dostoevsky and what people usually say about him. But now it's just weird; weird people saying and doing weird things. Stuff just happens and I have no idea where this is going.
>>24833649The Idiot is objectively a poorly formatted and unwieldy book, but it is also my favourite because there is so much psycho social depth in every scene and character. Myshkin is essentially an autist trying to navigate the social milieu of urban Russia like some alien, his candidness clashes so hilariously with the calculated refinement of the rest of the cast of characters. Each scene is a whirlwind that goes on for too long but it is so mesmerising and funny to me. But yes, technically speaking, it is one of those indulgent works in need of an editor.
How would you rank Dostoyevsky biographies? I saw Grossman's today while I was out and might get it next time it's there but I've already read a good chunk of Joseph Frank's except for the last volume. Just how much material do they both cover? I imagine since Grossman's was first it's a little outdated, no?
>>24833668>poorly formatted and unwieldy bookIsn't that true for every Dostoevsky work?
>>24832110>you should kys nowthis will resonate with me better get started
Conrad did it better
>>24835615I don't know about Idiot but TBK is infinitely more engaging to read than Demons
>>24836368I'm expecting TBK to be his best work. I'll be disappointed if it isn't because everything so far hasn't been this mindblowing experience everyone else in the West think it is.
>>24832110Seconding this anon, though I would go ackshually, they're not Marxists, but narodniks and other early socialists. Marx's Kapital wasn't even translated in Russian at this point.I would also encourage anon to read Turgenev's Fathers and Sons before this one. Demons, especially the first part which filters a lot of readers, is pretty obviously a dark parody of that book.
>>24833649>>24838363Read Demons after TBK, or you might get sick of Dosto. I found myself getting hooked on TBK early on, while it took me 200 pages into Demons for it to do the same
>>24838393Thanks, anon. What are your thoughts on The Idiot and The Adolescent? If you've read them.
Don't skip House of the Dead. It gives a lot of insight into Dostoevsky's personal philosophy as a writer, and it is a captivating memoir regardless.
>>24838394The Idiot's good, but since I read it after TBK, I felt TBK said most of what it had to say thematically. I share the view of some ITT that it can feel like you're just being shuttled from one scene to another, but the characters, especially Nastasya, are memorable.I have not read The Adolescent
>>24838397>that part when they beat each other in the saunasit didn't have the same frenetic pace as his other works, but it did show a naturalism to him that he rarely otherwise portrayed.
>>24838410>it didn't have the same frenetic pace as his other worksI mean it is set in a prison, they are not known for their high energy unless there is a riot.
>>24831562Just want to say that this is a good translation, BookTok-ifiied cover aside. The notes are also quite good for the context, which you'll need if you're not familiar with the politics of 19th century Russia
>>24838413of course not. it's a positive attribute of that particular work in my opinion, to be clear
