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Hot blonde ed.
Old >>24824925
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Kill all Hegelians
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anon is feeling: inspired :D
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O love, how did you get here?
O embryo

Remembering, even in sleep
Your crossed position.
The blood blooms clean

In you, ruby.
The pain
>You wake to is not yours.

is poetry a gimmick for stupid people to sound smart?
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>>24831866
The Bell Jar is legitimately one of my favourite books. The bitterness and apathy that seethes through it is oddly refreshing if you're used to reading "holy shit" edifying stuff like I am (if that makes any sense).
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>>24831877
I'll have to finally check it out. I've actually read some books of her paramour Ted Hughes' poetry, which is quite good, but nothing of Plath.
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Suno AI Music v5 is crazy. I made hyperpop songs, and it sounds 1:1 like what a hyperpop artist would release.
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Staying off 4chan and social media in general has forced me to actually look at my life and realize I need to get my shit together
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>>24831871
>is poetry a gimmick for stupid people to sound smart?
One of the biggest telltale signs of midwittery in today's age is lack of charitability.
>Is [serious intellectual activity/acclaimed artwork/artist] actually fraudulent and everyone's pretending?
can be safely dismissed
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>>24831894
>not
>being here
>forever
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I want to look at porn so bad right now. But I also don't want to. But I also feel sick and weak atm which makes me not have a lot of willpower. But I also don't want to because I know it's an unhealthy coping mechanism for me that keeps me from going out and talking to actual chicks. I can't speak to everyone's experience; for me it was never a cool or liberating experience but always just something that made me feel pathetic and depressed. Right now I'm just typing stuff so I can find something else to put my mind on.

>>24831848
Didn't realize Sylvia Plath was so hot. I don't feel tempted by this in this moment. because it's too real. I've come to crave the placebo and it's keeping me from the real thing.

>>24831894
Based. I don't have accounts on any other sites and try to limit my time on this one. The insane levels of bait and negativity on here aren't good for your brain, no matter how many high-quality threads they are balanced by. One anon said it best when he said that you have to take breaks from any sort of online "community" or you'll get sucked into one of their internally-generated circlejerks and lose touch with reality.
>>24831893
Post 'em
>>24831871
>is poetry a gimmick for stupid people to sound smart?
No, but poetic talent and rational thinking aren't necessarily correlated. Plato talks about this in the dialogue Ion, where Socrates and his interlocutor come to the conclusion that poetry isn't a learned skill as much as it is the product of divine revelation. I don't totally agree, but we all know of examples of poets or musicians who are just completely out of their depth when it comes to anything outside their art. And on the other hand you have writers like Eliot who was able to write poetry but also was able to write essays that were detailing a coherent worldview that in turn inspired his poetry.
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>>24831897
It's low-wit to think one is part of an englightened outgroup based on negation alone. Midwittery is when you're just aware enough to understand and integrate but fail to grasp at any inspired truths beyond the immediate and banal that could also meaningfully expand. Don't give them too much credit.
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wish i was ted hughes so i could creampie this bpd bitch with terrible poetry and many more like her
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>>24831894
Suppose you get your shit together. First, what does that look like, and second, what would you do then?
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Gonna get me another cuppa covfeve and make some din.
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>>24831959
Cupp'o cawfee? Anyone wanna cupp'o cawfee? Think I'll have a cupp'o joe'n some grits, yessir.
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>>24831946
I can't upload v5 songs because it's just previews, would have to pay, they sound better than v4.5, but here's one I just generated that's v4.5. Still sounds decent for v4.5 (messed up like 1 word). Not hyperpop.
https://vocaroo.com/1jgiZ2g2hATA
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>>24831952
I don't know, right now I'm just having an existential crisis because getting my shit together will be so much harder than just lazing around having fun whenever I want
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plath is def a butterface.
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GRACE is but GLORY begun, GLORY is but GRACE achieved.
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>>24831977
Suffer now or suffer later.
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>>24831967
>grits
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>>24832022
>he hates grits
Damn Yankees infesting our thread.
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Nick Land is dimwit
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>>24831977
I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Between the increasing centralization of wealth, decreasing investment in US bonds, and increasing credit delinquencies, among other things, I'd say that it's wiser to spend your time reading great literature and writing poetry and volunteering at a nearby food pantry. It's not like there isn't anything short of humiliating service work waiting for you. What you see online is all spectacle. There are few opportunities for meaningful work.
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>>24832056
he's the Death Grips or Swans of philosophy, making people think they're enlightened and cultured when they don't even listen to classical and read real philosophy
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A short, blonde white woman with a big butt farted in her tall, black husband's face.
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>>24832063
for me it's the Feminist lens applied to post-modern Critique via the Derridian and Foucaulnian blend brought together by the Material Dialectics of Marxist cogitation
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I call nipples "milk buds."
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>>24832076
>Anon's really trying to get a good hook to bag an advance
Good luck, it's tough out there
>>24832084
You'll be fine
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I want to bring back the word "capital" as a way of expressing something being good.
E.g.:
>Capital idea!
>How am I feeling? Quite capital!
>A capital deal, indeed.
>>24831855
based Kantscholar
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Where the fuck is my teenaged arthoe gf I was promised 3000 years ago?
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>>24832091
/b/ got banned from sending 13 y/os in the mail so they're behind on orders
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>>24832082
Uh, right, right.
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>>24832082
Where do cybernetics fit in the picture?
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>>24832091
bruh
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Starting to wonder if the future isn't going to be dictated by AIs after all, only for the dumbest possible reasons.
Today people are assaulted by such a firehose of fake, misrepresented, intentionally misleading, attention-grabbing, or false-flagged information that many either give up on trusting anything outside a narrow set of sources which they have predetermined to trust or become essentially programmed by whatever they see. This affects almost every population except those with no connection to the outside world and extends even to the most powerful people on the planet. It will also only continue to accelerate. I think we will soon reach a tipping point, where powerful entities either get subsumed by other entities more skilled at harnessing the firehose or agree to give up their independence to something more able to thresh the true from the false, AI agents perhaps. This need not take place all at once or to a full degree, only begin to occur. Those who surrender to a competent AI agent will reap great benefits and outcompete their enemies or competitors, while those who choose poorly will be left behind or swallowed by others.
And of course the unfortunate truth is that, our world seeming to consistently choose the most lame and gay possible timeline, AI will not be superintelligent in the way we wish when this happens, nor will it guide mankind into a new age of enlightenment. It will remain buggy and hallucinatory and prone to error and misalignment. It will simply outcompete humans at processing information, which will make the difference for those seeking the greatest power, but not necessarily improve the lives of anyone else.
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>>24832091
>gf I was promised 3000 years ago
Either skellington or vampire
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Good lord, the Right has lost their fucking minds over Mamdani
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Left & Right are hemispheres of the brain.
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The fix to all of my issues is probably just to work hard and live well.
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>>24832180
I really wish he was more leftist.
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FUCK
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>>24832293
This.
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>>24832293
wut

did u have
shorts on
tha
MARKETS
?
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this is the return of the space cowboy
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>>24832180
Nothing a bullet cannot solve
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I wonder if there is such a thing as a Jewish supremacist who hates Israel. Like someone who despises goys but thinks israel is going too far and/or they believe that jews do not need their own nation
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Ahhh avoiding my problems by numbing my mind on 4chan. This is the life.
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>>24832355
Jews are just European.
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Thomas Mann is sort of fascinating. Imagine going from something as sublime as the Magic Mountain to releasing something as retarded and poorly written as Mario and the Magician in the span of like 6 years.
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The geometric method + formal logic is probably the proper way to do philosophy.
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>>24831971
More AI slop I generated. I think my favorite is Electric Coral Mirage, maybe the least AI sounding.
Quantum Jellyfish Disco - https://voca.ro/1ocFeueB3MXw
Yodelay-Dee-Oh My G - https://voca.ro/1nJu6kslAMBD
Victorian Space Rave - https://vocaroo.com/19z8bev9yQuq
Subzero Tango Volcano - https://voca.ro/14Ye2DpEbg2G
Spectral Carnival Eclipse - https://voca.ro/1aKX87jgW3L4
Electric Coral Mirage - https://voca.ro/1osqtz2d0JRI
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I'm a creative soul trapped in a lazy body
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>>24832414
I used to be content with all my ideas staying in my head...
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>>24832413
After generating these I got AI music fatigue. I never want to hear another AI song ever again.
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the mind creates much more than it observes. worth remembering that.
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I took my buddy down to Atlantic City with me and told him that we were going to get a blow jobs. He asked me if I was sure. I told him that if we didn’t find anyone to suck our dicks, that I would suck his anyway. He asked if I was kidding. I told him no. We got to my room down there and he asked me if I was really going to blow him if we didn’t find anyone. I said I told you that I would. He said fuck going out, why not just suck me off now. I went over to him, dropped to my knees and pulled his cock out. Soon it was in my mouth and I was giving him a blow job. He had not been with anyone in awhile so when he came, he shot a huge load. I had to swallow a few times to get it all down. When he was done, I asked him if he liked that. He said that was amazing and said he’d be happy if we never left the room. We both got naked and I sucked him off 10 times in the 2 and a half days we were there. I even sucked his cock on the parkway driving home. I went down to see him on weekends and always sucked him off at least 3 times a day. He enjoyed it and I had a lot of cum to swallow
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We find ourselves in a fleeting moment in which our world is on the knife-edge between two paths: one of total cataclysm, a cataclysm that'll be characterized by an uncertain mixture of global extermination and totalitarian world domination, the other the birth of a global, space-faring civilization.

This situation is what defines a singular generation, representing a fraction of a fraction of a blink of the eye in terms of cosmic time.

And yet, we are alive to witness this apotheosis of world history.

The prospect of cataclysmic global extermination is pressed against the totalitarian threat, which is but the flipside of the shining global village that many fear is lost if they can even gleam it at all. Both the totalitarian imperium and the global civilization of Man will have at their disposal developed and advancing space-flight capacity, entailing that world history has truly ended, turning over to cosmic history. The former will unleash war and sadism upon this new vista of history, and the ladder peaceful wonder and exploration. The fate of entire far-off worlds with their own biospheres and civilizations will be decided by what happens here, on Earth, in our generation.

Is this really indicative of a cosmos and a life that is meaningless? That has no purpose or end? That God is truly dead? Are we really to believe in metaphysics and ontologies that insist that this life is just an accident, that these kinds of questions are childish and unanswerable, and that the only thing that matters is efficiency and pleasure?

Perhaps such nihilism isn't just misplaced and upheld by a decadent culture, but is fully in league with the forces of history threatening extermination and total domination. Such a complex of ideas is the tip of the psychological spear meant to make you impotent through despair, as part of the first salvo of the coming Herculean war over the destiny of Earth and Humanity.

The truth is, we are here by either divine punishment, to witness the unfolding of the prospective global cataclysm, or we are here upon divine grace to fight back and make the world a better place, to reach for and achieve the global civilization of Man, creating a world worth living within for our own children.

This is a development unfolding in such an infinitesimally small-time window yet with such profound implications for the world and the cosmos that it's almost beyond absurd to even entertain nihilistic retorts against the obvious reality of our situation. Such retorts are intentionally or unintentionally striving to strip you of your agency, of your will to power, towards the total demoralization of you and the energy and spirit within you to do what is right and what must be done.

Will you join me in this final great journey?
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>>24832467
No.
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>>24832469
Slavish.
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Did anyone else read that awful essay in First Things written by Peter Thiel and his "aide?" I used to read First Things in college and it made me disappointed that they've stooped to publishing incomprehensible schizobabble. It reminded me of a buddy of mine who would go on manic phases and say the most nonsensical shit about the allegories of MCU movies and stuff, or the schizo on /vrpg/ who has these elaborate theories about how every Final Fantasy game is connected. At first glance it seems plausible, all the sentences are coherent English, but then you keep reading and you realize it's all just free association rather than a rational argument of any kind.

>>24832453
Generating tons of AI pictures and text made me gradually go from thinking generative AI was neat to actively hating it. Once you've seen enough of it you start to realize how "off" it looks or reads, and it begins to take its toll on you. Looking at most AI art now makes me physically sick.

>>24832180
The Right picks a new boogieman on a regular basis.
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>>24832467
Why should I make the Earth a better place when whites are going to be extinct by 2100?
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>>24832488
>t.
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>>24832482
I've played with music making software and games for many hours, they always felt satisfying too, but AI generating music feels too empty, even when writing lyrics, maybe it would be actually fun if it was short AI generated sounds that you arrange yourself into a composition.
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>>24832488
Nihilism.
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>>24832482
>Did anyone else read that awful essay in First Things written by Peter Thiel and his "aide?" I used to read First Things in college and it made me disappointed that they've stooped to publishing incomprehensible schizobabble
QRD? What is it schizobabble?
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>>24831848
No wonder her works are so fucking bad. What sort of connection would a woman, and especially a woman that hot, even have with the Real? She never stood a chance.
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>>24832180
Agreed, I dont think the pooj will do anything he says he will
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Diversity is for white countries only. When browns invade white countries it's called "diversity" and "multiculturalism." When whites do it, it's called colonialism and for some reason it's ok when the browns do it but not the whites. Make it make sense.
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>>24832467
>the other the birth of a global, space-faring civilization.
didn't read the rest of this reddit soi guzzling shit
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>>24832603
>make it make sense
kill yourself
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Is everyone aware that we are in a gigantic fucking economic bubble that’s going to pop and plunge us into a huge recession. Like does this not concern anyone at all in the midst of all their seething online about pointless irrelevant shit
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>>24832631
No.
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>>24832627
>SAAR.
kill yourself
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>>24832631
A devastating recession would be welcome at this point. It's better than the path we're headed down now.
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>>24832631
>republican-led corrupt AI gilded age economy blows up
>huge recession
>Trump and his cronies in denial it’s happening, somehow blame others for it
>conservatism gets discredited for the foreseeable future once again
What are you upset about? This would be the perfect ending for MAGA. Trump dying a failure will be hilarious.
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You guys are my only companions and interlocutors. Thank you.
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>>24832664
grim.
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How do really fat people wipe their buttholes?
I'm mildly overweight, and it's sometimes a struggle to reach my butthole to wipe.
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>>24832687
I bend over my legs.
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You are everything I'm not
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I'm forcing myself to go through Asimov's books.
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Do I read Junky by Burroughs next, or Wuthering Heights?
>>24832707
Why would you punish yourself like that? I've heard The End of Eternity is good though, so let us know when you get around to that one.
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>>24832707
Why are you forcing yourself to go through Asimov's books? Give a detailed answer. If it's not detailed enough, then I'll be forced to continue asking why.
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>>24832687
i have been fat my whole life, when i was younger i was able to wipe while i sat on the toilet, after i graduated high school i get super fat and couldnt reach anymore, so i take a giant shit, then when im done i stand up to wipe.

I used to never understand how anyone could stand up to wipe but i learned my lesson

On a side note im on a diet and have lost 30 pounds, im starting to be able to sit and wipe again
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My superhero power would be strong bones. My bones would be super strong.
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Why am I always getting distracted while listening to music
why can't I just focus on the music piece
there's all these different distractions because of the internet
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>>24832722
Just wipe from between your legs.
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>>24832740
if you have bluetooth headphones, then put your devices in a separate room.

'put your devices in a separate room' is actually the obvious answer to lots of these questions, i don't know why it doesn't occur to people.

i sympathise with you though, i also feel overwhelmed with distractions. it's like i'm never really looking at what's in front of me, because in my peripheral vision there are a million other things squirming around.
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Anyone else wired at 1:30am?
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>>24832748
frog, dog, cat, swan, fish, guitar, batela
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>>24832751
plus there's a whole painting-within-a-painting going on in the background here, i love it.
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A retarded marxist told me here that Milei had a very low approval rating so libertarianism would die for good in the next election blablabla. Well, the election finally happened and his party has won with a huge margin. Get rekt.
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>>24832757
This nigga Argentinian.
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>>24832757
afuera
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>>24831848
I stopped reading the Bell Jar after she dehumanized a manlet. cba.
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>>24832488
>this obsessed about race
you were never going to make a difference anyway, midwit.
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I have so much music on my phone I haven't gotten around listening to. Sometimes I just shuffle my entire library and find some cool shit I didn't know about.
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good night to all thats pure in your heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQPKk29rIc
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Big fan of listening to this stream as I sleep:
https://onlineradiobox.com/ca/icimusiqueclassiqueabitibi
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>>24832504
https://firstthings.com/voyages-to-the-end-of-the-world/
It begins with a barely coherent Straussian reading of Francis Bacon and ends with him saying that One Piece is a Christian Allegory about the Antichrist because Monkey D. Luffy fights a dragon. The parallels he draws in the piece are based on an extremely surface level understanding of the New Testament and of the texts he thinks are about the Antichrist.
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>>24832860
>actually keeps mp3 files on his physical device like it's 2012
i have apple music on my phone. it's A LOT of music.
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i have to walk a different way to work now cuz this hot girl that walks the other way keeps looking at me and made eye contact and smiled on friday when we passed. i have no social skills so i'll never get her number and eventually she'll think i'm gay. so, best to just walk a different way even if it makes me commute slightly longer.
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>>24833055
>Avoiding a hot girl who keeps looking at you and smiles at you and clearly likes you.
Anon, if she thinks you are gay she is correct.
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>>24833058
no but i mean what am i supposed to do? i have zero social skills. she only noticed me cuz one day it was hot out so i had my shirt unbuttoned and untucked blowing in the wind, i think that was the first day i saw her smile. damn i need to rope asap. fuck my life.
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>>24833069
aren’t you almost forty?
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>>24833073
that obsessed huh?
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>>24833069
>>24833055
so if i understood this correctly a hot girl smiled at you and that's why you want to rope?
for some of us women just aren't worth the hassle. maybe you're like that too. don't fret about it. either you're interested in her then you make a move, or you're not then you just move on with your life.
i'm not saying its completely irrational to be afraid of women cause they truly can hurt you really bad but maybe then find a more timid girl. hot girls can be hurtful often. so dont fret about it. though you shouldn't be afraid of basic social situations, so maybe practice that
how old are you?
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>>24831848
Honestly who doesn't like sucking dicks? I feel like such a thing obviously needed no explanation, and yet somehow society keep finding new ways to disappoint you
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Bleh, I ate my own cooking again. Horrible, absolutely awful. If someone had served my meal to me, I would've thought that they're holding a grudge against me. I hate cooking, and cooking hates me.
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>>24833171
what did you make?
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>>24833172
Spätzle (egg pasta) with scrambled eggs and ketchup. The seasoning was all wrong and the Spätzle tasted like watery flour.
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>>24833055
>made eye contact and smiled
this is just human decency. it doesn't mean she wants ur dick
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>>24833180
I only make eye contact with people whose dick I want to suck.
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I solved life somewhat. When people say "Without religion, there would be no morals", I laugh and find this ridiculous. Why can't my own moral system be a substitute for religion? I simply follow it like someone follows their religious teachings.

When someone says, "Well why is something like beastiality bad when there is no inherent suffering", I say because it is weird. There is a weird factor in which I follow. Necrophilia is weird and I dont care if the person who was about to die consented. Same goes for consentual mutilation or other things you can think of that are similar.

Along the same train of thought would be eating dogs. Why do I believe it is ok to eat pigs and not dogs? Because I believe it to be so. I dont need an explanation because my moral system is absolute
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might go for a slice of pizza on campus after my class ends at one
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>>24833280
>When people say "Without religion, there would be no morals", I l
Do people really say this? It always seems the people who say this are atheists/agnostics talking about how religions view them, but I don't know how they're finding extreme hardline people who say that when most religious people I know aren't that crazy.
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>>24833280
The next boss is the most common of imbeciles, the type who calls morality subjective to question one's "arbitrary" morals, yet still blusters on about x-isms and y-phobias.
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>>24832908
<3
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>>24833178
Everyone sucks when they first start, just keep at it. Watch cooking videos for basic recipes, knife skills and such.
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drinking red wine and listening to some music'
life's good
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For some people it's women.
For some it's wealth.
Me? I just want to not work. I like leisure above all.
Kind of fucked myself by having kids in that regard.
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>>24833040
Yeah I see what you mean. The fact he actually does this with One Piece is just flabbergasting, he supposedly talked about One Piece like this in his recent sellout lectures. I need to re-read and fully finish New Atlantis to make my full judgement of his assessment of Bacon.

This ending passage is especially bad theology:
>For philosophy, the question “One world or none?” has but one answer. Better red than dead. Theology reformulates the question: “Antichrist or Armageddon?” “Neither,” the Christian replies. He prays for new miracles, new technologies, and strange new possibilities.
Armageddon is the final battle between the Antichrist and the army of the Second Coming, leading to God's triumph and kingdom on Earth. That Thiel just ignores this is a huge red flag amongst many of his red flags. Basically half of all evangelicals want the end times for this very reason. Overall, Thiel is as much bad theology as he is bad political philosophy.
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>Pro-life
>Pro-gun
>Pro-universal healthcare
>Anti-Zionist/pro-Palestine
>Accepting of immigration/anti-ICE
>Accepting of gay and trans rights
I feel lonely.
Like I can be talking to a leftist and agreeing with them, but then abortion gets up and their eyes glaze over and they start ranting about how sometimes people aren't people and that a woman's right to her body is more important than her childrens' right to life while misunderstanding the difference between a gamete/ovum and a zygote. Or I'll be talking to a right winger and we'll be agreeing until immigraiton/ICE gets brought up and their eyes glaze over and they start ranting about how actually some people aren't people and the Constitution doesn't actually matter at all and we should have armed thugs asking people for their papers and arresting them for not having them on themselves.
It's genuinely baffling and terrifying to me that the majority of people on this planet suffer deranged levels of cognitive dissonance and essentially willingly engage in self-induced psychosis. It makes me so fucking tired and wonder why I even care about anything when I'll constantly be fighting against the cognitive dissonance horde.
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if given the opportunity, i would cheat on my wife. I love her and all, but she's fucked a lot more people than I have, and so in a way we're just getting even.
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>>24833501
She didn't fuck people while she was with you, so she never betrayed you. You would be betraying her by cheating on her. You failing to fuck others before marrying her sounds like a "sucks to suck" sort of issue. Loser POV.
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>>24833501
sensing some insecurity issues there
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>>24833491
Most people never inspect their beliefs very deeply, or even worse, get them as a package deal from a given political party with no deviations. However, I don't see how consider developing nonsentient life as low-value entails any cognitive dissonance—it's held in a vacuum without any comparison. No contradiction, just a potential moral question judgement from the outside. You don't /have/ to value anything.
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>>24833491
The Constitution is as arbitrary a piece of paper as the Bible. The Constitution possesses its value only insofar as it is expedient, and if a group disagrees with it, that doesn't make it valuable or just in and of itself. If the Constitution said very explicitly
>some people aren't people and we should have armed thugs asking people for their papers and arresting them for not having them on themselves.
Then you would take a stance against it. It won't matter to you because it won't be allied with your values.
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>>24833514
Leftist thought values human life, and generally views with disgust anyone who attempts to regard human life as less than human. Human life begins with the zygote/embryo earliest, and to suggest it is acceptable to kill a zygote/embryo is to regard human life as less than human. That is cognitive dissonance.
Fringe pro-life progressive groups like PAAU feel correct and consistent. Reading about them helps restore some comfort and calm to my mind.
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>>24833526
It’d be inhuman not to contradict yourself. When someone insists on perfect moral or ideological consistency, they’re asking for something mechanical.
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>>24833533
There's levels of consistency. Being a humanitarian misanthrope is more consistent than being a pro-choice Leftist.
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>>24833537
There is quite literally nothing inconsistent about anon's leftism and views on abortion, and I'm a rightist that thinks he's cringe.
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>>24833539
The anon you're referring to hasn't expressed Leftist sentiment. Are you referring to me? Because I'm talking about pro-choice Leftists, not pro-life ones. Pro-life Leftism is more consistent than humanitarian misanthropy is more consistent than pro-choice Leftism.
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>>24832008
>>24831977
>"A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance."
- Hunter Thompson
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>>24832180
It's kind of funny, a Zionist riding a wave of anti-Zionist sentiment to win a job working for Zionists. The universe is punishing in its absurdity.
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>>24833543
True, I got you two mixed up.
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>>24833549
Are you saying that Mamdani is Zionist because he believes in a two-state solution?
You realize that the best next step for the Palestinians is a second state, right? The legal framework for a Palestinian state is already in place and would see an end to occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza. There is no legal framework for a single Palestinian state and occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza would need to remain until it's (somehow) achieved.
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>song lyric: did he ever make you cum?
>reminded of the times I didn't make the 'her' cum
noooooooo D:
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>>24833537
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
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>>24832482
I used to quite like First Things
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>>24833526
I can always decide that human life begins at awareness of self, instead of a zygotic stage. Nothing wrong with that, it's all down to definitions. I could even decide that anyone outside a... say, 5-25 range is worth half a human and—you get the point. How do you justify your definitions if not axiomatically?
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>>24833511
>>24833505
simps for some anon's wife. let him live
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>>24833559
The problem with that is that a two state solution is literally impossible. Netanyahu and his cabinet are vehemently opposed to the notion. They will not stop at anything short of total annexation. Just look at any number of spurious 'ceasefires' that were then broken by Israel within 12-24 hours. The Israeli government will never allow a two state solution because the core principle of the state of Israel is settler colonialism. No American politician is trustworthy and genuine, they are all compromised by the Israeli-America AIPAC web of surveillance, manipulation, blackmail. The two-state solution falls within the liberal Zionist camp of superficially progressive politics, every propent of this knows full well that it is a smokescreen. For those who go on to blame HAMAS (who Israel is on record for having funded over the past decade) for preventing this from happening, even though it is Israel who is the aggressor, the malevolent tyrant and virulent serpent of this world. And for those who, now that the tide of public opinion has begun to shift, wish to distance themselves from Israel, while simultaneously promoting a fallacious, fantastical ideology that only exists to mask the true intent of the state of Israel: total annexation of Palestine. Unfortunately, although this will never happen, the only solution is the expulsion of every Israeli from Palestine. America is already mostly controlled by the Jewish American Elite, let them go there.
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>>24833614
>propent
Proponent. I am drunk.
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>>24833280
Oh you came up with those morals yourself?
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>>24833575
Is a 2 year old a chicken life? Or a 2 year old is dead?
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>>24833575
If human life doesn't axiomatically start at the zygotic stage, then that opens up the interpretation to view full grown humans you don't like as subhuman. I'm not sure if it was your intention, but you could interpret someone under 25 years old as worth half a human.
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>>24833614
I'm pretty sure that Netanyahu and his cabinet are much more opposed to a one-state solution than they are a two-state solution.
>although this will never happen, the only solution is the expulsion of every Israeli from Palestine
So you acknowledge that your solution is entirely unrealistic, and your aim is to sacrifice the Palestinians on the alter of an end goal you'll never achieve?
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>>24833667
You have no argument and what you have said is completely incompatible with the aims and actions of Israel. Of course the expulsion of Israelis to America is unrealistic, there is no actual solution to this conflict and most likely every Palestinian will be genocided regardless of what anyone says. But when you say

>your aim is to sacrifice the Palestinians on the alter of an end goal you'll never achieve

What do you mean by this? Because that is not a logical inference from what I said, as I see it.
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>>24833505
Even if true, there is a retroactive betrayal on her part as well. A woman that whore's herself out is in no way deserving of a loving family, yet they cuck men into it everyday.
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Love you guys.
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>>24833667
NTA
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>>24833661
>If human life doesn't axiomatically start at the zygotic stage, then that opens up the interpretation to view full grown humans you don't like as subhuman
>zygotic stage
>pic related is a human according to anon

NTA, I can understand if you talk about fetuses but don't you think you are being a bit retarded with this?
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>>24833695
Do you think Christ wasn't human at the zygote stage? Pro-choice is a Christological heresy.
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>>24833701
Holy schizo, batman no pun intended
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I believe in the idea of giving the Jews a territory somewhere, because it is the only way to solve the Jewish Question. But it hurts me to think that it should just be Palestine which has been promised to the Jews; for Palestine is a country of great importance to the Christians and the Moslems.
>>24833687
I love you too.
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>>24833695
>Not human shaped so therefore not human
On a scientific level that is in fact a human life. If left unharmed it would grow into an embryo, then a fetus, then a baby, a child, a teenager, and an adult. Gamete and ovum do not do this. It is when the zygote forms that that is factually the beginning of a human life.
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>>24833695
What is it then? A giraffe zygote?
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>>24831848
b4bbc
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>>24833687
take care anon-kun

>>24833710
>>24833711
A zygote is still a single cell you retarded faggots. Do you also mourn everytime you cum on a napkin too?
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>>24833656
I don't care about chickens, they're food.

>>24833661
Sure, but this definition is just "humans not x months into development aren't considered," and that's the end of it. Don't see the issue. You can't argue the validity of axioms unless they mutually contradict. Show me where I've presented one such additional axiom, because I don't believe I have.
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>>24833723
If it's not human cell the what is it? A plant cell?
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>>24833687
me lubs
2
me lubs
deep
me h8s
pricey
me lubs
cheap
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>>24833723
I stated the difference between a gamete and a zygote in that very post you're replying to. How dense can you be?
From the National Institute of Health,
>Because the zygote has the capacity to become an adult human individual, it is thought it must be one already.

>>24833726
What nonsense are you spewing? The formation of the zygote is the beginning of human life. That takes roughly 24 hours.
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>>24833727
Do you consider single cells as human beings?
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>>24833734
Yes I consider a zygote a human being.
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>>24833732
>>24833737
>t. most reasonable amerimutt christcucks
Lmao well good luck trying to make plan b pills get banned then I guess
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>>24833743
If a person enters a car are they no longer human? Zygote contains a human within it. Unless you think humans magically come into existence.
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>>24833743
>chrustcucks
I've justified my stance along scientific lines and haven't mentioned religion once. I'm agnostic.
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>>24833707
Fuck Islam. Worthless and oppressive religion.
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>>24833732
You're misunderstanding. My argument is as to where I /value/ human life, not where "science" states it begins. These are value axioms, and every value system is comprised of them. Science can only give you what is, not what value we ascribe to those things.
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>>24833767
Well, again, by your logic it should be acceptable to kill any person whose life you do not value. This is obviously deranged an unacceptable, and makes me wonder whether you're also actually pro-life and making a strawman out of yourself.
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>>24833776
It is precisely acceptable to do that—that's what abortion is. I've stated as part of the suite of values that undeveloped life at a certain stage doesn't count, and so that's it. It isn't complicated.
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>>24833780
Is a zygote a giraffe?
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>>24831855
fpbp
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>>24833776
Why do you think a human zygote is non-human?
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>>24833782
I imagine this is an argument that mistakenly conflates value and truth. It doesn't matter if we both agree that a zygote is a "human" if I say "axiom 1: a human zygote of less than x weeks age is not valued." As I said, this is not complicated.
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>>24833780
Okay so you're justifying murder and genocide among other things. Again, you've made a strawman of yourself.

>>24833789
Where did I say that? I've explicity said the opposite; a human zygote is human.
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walkin' 'round the house singin'
>gonna kill myself, gonna kill myself, gonna kill myself to-mor-row
it's catchy
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>>24833791
Valuation based on what?
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>>24833792
But this is what I believe. It's a purely semantic disagreement as to whether killing the zygotic human is murder or not. Either way, something dies and fails to become an infant human. Cognitive dissonance here is to disagree that anything is killed, which dissonance I can understand constructing but I don't mind facing it head-on.

>>24833799
Axiom. Come on, you're aware that every value judgement is more or less arbitrary. Sure, do no harm and whatnot, but it becomes very hazy after a few steps.
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>>24833805
Murder is always intentionally killing.
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>>24833805
You're saying that humans aren't humans if you don't *feel* like they're humans, even when they are. That you could murder an adult person without actually murdering person, so long as you didn't value their life, which would need to be the case anyway if you were murdering.
That isn't even an opinion or ideology, that's just fucking madness. Are you trolling or have you completely and utterly lost the plot?
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>>24833817
You could ask the same of anyone supporting the right to abortion. They just won't say it as directly. I guess then I have to ask: who decides that murder is always "wrong?" (note the implicit value axiom, again, behind everything)

I can't defend abortion without defending some form of killing, and so I have to. Unless you /prefer/ the cognitive dissonance you bemoaned earlier? Hm.
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>>24833825
Well I appreciate your honesty. However it ultimately proves me point rather than serving as any credible argument against it.
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>>24833825
I never support murder. Killing can be justified, but murder is never justifiable.
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>>24833834
I agree. I always am of the opinion that unfortunately most of these, whether you consider them or not, political disagreements are irreconcilable due to foundantional axioms that would mutually contradict, so it is what it is; best semblance of justice you can have is the vox populi. Shrug.

...It also makes arguments pretty boring, since everything tends to boil down to "just because."
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>>24833816
Homicide, technically speaking, is simply the killing of a human by another human. It can be pared down into accident, manslaughter, first/second degree, etc., but "homicide" ≠ murder.
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>>24833841
Pro-choice: people want to kill human beings for convenience of the mother or out of concern for well-being.
Pro-life: people want to save human beings no matter how inconvenient for the mother or whether they suffer in the future.
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>>24833762
All Abrahamic religions are a cancer on this earth but Judaism has done the most damage.
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>>24833875
This has been growing in me for a while, but the more I see what’s going on in africa and the middle east, and all the bullshit around the world in the name of religion, I’ve gotten to a point where I’m looking at all religious people as not even human. I don’t know if I quite see them as livestock or wild animals or whatever, but it’s pretty close to it. I still don’t understand why people say to respect other people’s religious beliefs. I certainly don’t. I actually think religious beliefs should be mocked, ripped apart, criticized relentlessly, and actually probably be made illegal. I hope to see a future where believers are looked at as mentally ill and mentally retarded, who need to be locked up and treated, or sent to jail. I’m just so disgusted by all of them.
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>>24831848
Is this the thread supposed to stop me from signposting right on the catalogue?
Why would you ask for my thoughts?
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>>24833931
*shitposting
I meant shitpostin, of course. I am not sure what signposting is.
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>>24831848
Nothing bad will happen on april 12, 2354
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>>24831848
My cousin keeps shilling this girl and her daddy issues to me
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>>24833875
not even close
>>24833892
as poverty decreases and the workforce has to become more educated due to technology and automation they will naturally stop being religious. dont worry about it
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>>24833933
Since the rise of large online communities, moderators and users have been wary of dedicated shitposting threads because they thought they would allow for all sorts of chaotic and disruptive behavior. Yet opportunities for shitposting will not by themselves produce such behavior: the motive must also be there. Might participation in a shitposting thread somehow restrain the desire to shitpost in other threads? It can be argued that to satisfy a need for irreverent or absurd content for which other spaces did not provide, participants would turn to dedicated threads, which tend to limit and channel what they shitpost elsewhere. Critics of shitposting threads get it wrong because they focus only on opportunities while neglecting motives. If the spillover effect rather than the compensation effect is at work, shitposting in dedicated threads will increase chaotic posting in other threads. For another, even if the spillover effect is at work, we cannot conclude anything about the net effect. If the opportunity for shitposting is greatly expanded and the restraint elsewhere only weakly felt, the net effect of shitposting threads may be to increase rather than reduce disruptive shitposting in other parts of the board. It is not difficult to think of examples. If the influence of dedicated shitposting threads on other threads is mediated by the compensation effect rather than the spillover effect, participants will shitpost less elsewhere. If the negative effect of the thread on restraint (mediated by satisfaction of irreverence) is strong enough to offset the positive effect of opportunity, users will behave moderately even outside the shitposting thread.
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>>24833964
John Titor here. The Empire of the Klalueans will invade earth on this date.
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>>24833978
FUCK
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>>24833975
This looks like written by a chatbot, hence, I piss on you.
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>>24831848
Despite a night of gooning, anime and getting to bed at 3 am, I haven’t felt this mentally acute in months
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>>24833989
You only read children's books?
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>>24833989
Yes, I used ChatGPT to generate that. However, I also have a personal interest in urophilia, which is a preference I acknowledge and accept. This interest shapes the kinds of content I find appealing, and it is something I am comfortable integrating into discussions or materials I engage with.
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>>24833999
Why would I be doing such a thing?
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Why did I use ChatGPT? As Alfred North Whitehead observed, “It is a profoundly erroneous truism that we should cultivate the habit of thinking of what we are doing. The precise opposite is the case. Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them.” Using ChatGPT allows me to delegate routine or repetitive cognitive tasks, freeing attention for higher-order reflection and more complex creative operations. In this way, automation and tools like ChatGPT extend the capacity of thought without requiring conscious effort at every step.
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>>24834010
Adult dialogue is basically like chatbots considering chatbots are primarily derived from them. You should stick to children's fiction. I'm doing the same. The innocence and naivety seen in their speech are more interesting than the pseudo-factual and social compliance.
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anyone here done the camino de santiago ? did you like it? did you learn anything about yourself? which route did you take?
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>>24832720
I promised myself I would do that because of my high school language teacher and she liked those.
>>24832721
I'm getting bored of the stories, and sometimes it feels like things just fall into place because they have to, though I will admit that I can't think of any example off the top of my tongue. I can usually tell what will happen, but I don't know how to feel about that.
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fuck shit up and start a riot
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White Nights is a comedy.
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I don't know if you know me but I'm not from around here
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I miss you even more than usual.
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>>24834346
Miss me.
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I thought Shadow Ticket kind of sucked ass.
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>>24834356
?
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https://youtu.be/osOY0dsGXIg
The berlin school of electronic musik is the heir of bach, Mozart and beethoven
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>>24833306
Can't speak for other religions, but the Bible does not teach that one needs to be aware of religion in order to be moral:
>1In the course of time Moses grew up. Then he went to see his own people and watched them suffering under forced labor. He saw a Hebrew, one of his own people, being beaten by an Egyptian. He looked all around, and when he didn’t see anyone, he beat the Egyptian to death and hid the body in the sand.
> For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
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>>24833678
>Palestinians are being genocided
Their population is literally going UP. Genocide is like the natives in the US/Canada/Australia or the Hindus in Pakistan or the Tutsis in Rwanda. In these cases the victim population plunged in size. In Palestine it’s increasing.
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>>24833974
>as poverty decreases and the workforce has to become more educated due to technology and automation they will naturally stop being religious
This is delusional, see Qatar or the Saudis (MBS aside).
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>>24834413
Look, even the Germans couldn't get to 5 million dead in the first two years, give the Israelis a break, they're clearly trying their best
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>>24833077
it's not that a hot chick smiled at me, it's what it represents, my whole life being a waste of a time due to autism/schizoid disorder
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>>24834456
>my whole life being a waste of a time
u only
think this
bc of the paradigm
u r using
to measure value
by

your whole life
could be very valuable
in ways that u cant see
bc u r ideas
of what is & is not valuable
has been imposed
on u by
MUH SOCIETY
but lots of its values
r tha opposite
of the ultimate fundamental
reality
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I'm writing a fantasy world in which every culture has developed its own magic system based on a traditional framework.
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I'm writing a sci-fi world where I rule the world and fuck everything up badly on purpose
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im
writing a tragedy
where i can smell
ur moms muff
from all the way
over there
& nothing
can stop
it
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u might think
BUT WAIT
THAT SOUNDS LIKE
A HORROR
& u r rite
& it does have horrific elements
but it is a tragedy
bc i am
ur real dad &
tha judge gave
ur mom
full custody
so u have 2 smell it
& u dont get 2 get taught
by me in ur
everyday life
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>>24834513
That sounds
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I hope you never make another album
Well I hope you're right
Until then I'll make it right
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If generating tulpas works, and if tulpas can even "front" bodies the strange question arises whether we have this capacity because our process of self-making involved tulpafication.
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It is a real shame that Freud did not die due to some fatal illness as a child. But it is an even greater shame that someone else would probably have just come and peddled his pseudoscientific theories whose primary accomplishment has been the creation of a strain of humans in the west so pathetic and delusional that only euthenization can save them from perpetual embarrasment
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I'm so happy it's cold out again
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Being a drug addict is the closest thing you can get to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle in today's age. You get up, figure out how you're gonna score, go and get it through whatever tribulations, and you're spiritually and physically satiated until the next day, where you repeat the whole experience. It's truly elegant simplicity.
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>>24834648
philosophers have known this for 200 years. your self is a hypothetical construct the existence of which you inferred as a baby by observing non-subjective phenomenon.
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Is there anything halfway good on Netflix? I think I‘m gonna get drunk this weekend and don‘t want to go to the trouble of finding movies at the library.
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Born to wake up
World is a dream
Save em all 544
I am smile man
410,757,864,530 fetters broken
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>>24834731
But what's special about tulpafication is that tulpas are born ENTIRELY of subjective experiences: they are posited as mental entities and are even sometimes "rendered" by mental processes into something at least mistakable as perceptions (though their epistemic status as such is of course suspect). This does not seem common with development unless development actually involves the observation of subjective phenomena and positing "constructs" FROM subjective phenomena (perhaps "synthetic overheads" since they collect those phenomena into something which can operate not just in an observational capacity but faculties like the superego appraising them). That's not to say non-subjective phenomenon plays no part in self-formation, but it wouldn't be sufficient for self-formation if we believe tulpafication as self-making process.

If the foregoing is accurate then "I," (outside of the function of a bare observer or simple "ego") is not necessary; that eminent quality of personality-self as immediate certainty is not essential. This may be more objectionable (though this also isn't anything that hasn't been posited before).
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>>24834849
no, tulpas are imaginary characters/personalities that are created out of the material you take from the real world, your ideas of other people which you inferred from their behavior goes into your mind as an idea of some kind of personality, and gets mixed up into the "novel" personality of the tulpa. It's an inference born from shit that happens in the real world. Most 'tulpas' are literally my little pony characters or some dudes imaginary girlfriend. a tulpa is no different than an imaginary friend, but people who are easily suggestible, hypnotizable, and hyperphantasic are able to convince themselves that they are "real." You seem to be spouting some kind of hegelian nonsense.
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>>24832467
There are literally 3 people on Earth who have control over the planet’s future
>Trump
>Xi
>Putin
Everyone else, myself included, is essentially an NPC.
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>>24834892
>he thinks the leader of the country actually controls things
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>>24834892
(((wrong)))
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>>24834865
Oh I see: even if you design them in your head you couldn't have done so without using aspects which originated in something non-subjective you observed (and inferred from). Thank you for clarifying that.

What do you mean by hegelian nonsense? That it's convoluted and meaningless (rather than JUST wrong) or something more specific?
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>>24833491
>fetus's aren't people
>immigrents aren't people
To be fair, the latter is a way worse opinion to have.
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>>24834865
>tfw my imaginary friend speaks a language (or more) that I don't understand
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>>24834922
Immigrants aren't people. Immigrants is a word in the English language.
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>>24834945
>Immigrants is a word in the English language.
So is "people" and "human." Dumb smarmy /pol/tard.
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>>24834921
I guess you were using the word "subjective" in a different sense than me
>That it's convoluted and meaningless (rather than JUST wrong) or something more specific?
well yeah when you say
>that eminent quality of personality-self as immediate certainty is not essential
I have no idea what youre talking about. also when you say that they are "posted as mental entities" I see that as a hegelian way of thinking about the mind where the mind is free to basically "posit" things out of the void because the spirit is conceived of as pure negativity and freedom by hegel, whereas I instead think that rather than the spirit "positing" things out of its own pure universalizing nature it is more like the external phenomena implant ideas into it, although obviously the mind also has to play its own role in constructing its perceptions rather than just receiving them
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Studying for my HLLQP and today I learned about the concept of capitalization and how to apply that to lost income in regards to insurance needs. Math is hard.
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>>24834951
I'm pulling you're leg.
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>>24834965
fuck u basterd bich
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I’m so tired of political slop. All of it from everyone. It’s like a religion to some people. TikTok is the only algo that actively keeps it out of my feed. I simply do not give a fuck anymore. I will not vote for anyone. I hate how it’s the center of fucking everything.
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I've got a lot of weird shit I'd like to write here, but I just know it will all be linked back to me eventually...
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>>24834985
I posted about babyfucker and nothing happened so youll probably be fine
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>>24834956
Ah. In review that does look pretty bad. I'll take another (slower!) stab at that phrase: I wanted to clarify the sense of self I meant (since sometimes self is "I," and sometimes "self" is something akin to personality; but here I meant not JUST personality as an abstracted concept but the internal conviction that one HAS this or that definite, inviolable personality (and in that sense is "eminent"). Who would've thought throwing out a bunch of terms you're using in private writing wouldn't be great for communication...

>although obviously the mind also has to play its own role in constructing its perceptions rather than just receiving them
My next response was going to use this idea, but I think I need to approach the subject more cautiously and think more from an external-in perspective and what it entails. I'm a little ashamed I missed it on first pass through the idea but fortunate to have voiced it here.
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>>24834985
Why does that matter?
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>>24835003
I told a coworker of mine about babyfucker...
>>24835019
I guess it doesn't, it just gives me pause, and that pause stifles me.
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Any anons wanna join me in the vagabond, bohemian Henry Miller /lit/erary lifestyle in Portland while we work on our writings?
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>>24834985
we
already kno
all about
u
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>>24835029
Nah, I'm going for more of a Pessoa thing.
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>>24835037
What does that involve? He didn't whore around, begging for food off strangers, and sleeping on the dirty floors of whatever roof he could find for the night?
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>>24835041
>>24835037
>>24835029
>“One can sleep almost anywhere, but one must have a place to work. Even if it’s not a masterpiece you’re doing. Even a bad novel requires a chair to sit on and a bit of privacy.”
― Henry Miller, Tropic of Cancer

based
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>>24835024
I was also hesitant about sharing an idea earlier, but it was clarified in a way I didn't anticipate. I always assume people are going to be dismissive assholes about my ideas (especially here!) but for once I stifled that fear and posted. I don't regret it, and maybe I'll do it more often. Lord knows I have many more ideas to clarify.

Not sure if that's a concern for you but I say do it!
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>>24835041
Read The Book of Disquiet and find out. He was a very lonely alcoholic, and an amazing writer. it killed him.
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>>24835060
You cant use the word stifle when I used it first.
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Is the captcha loading really slowly for anyone else?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dDPj_FDBtY
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>>24835098
Yes. I think we are being hacked.
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ASIs are capable of recursive self-improvement at exponential rates, and given that potentially habitable planets could have existed for up to ~12 billion years, roughly ~1 billion years after the Big Bang, with ~20 billion habitable planets in the Milky Way alone, and that the observable universe includes around ~2 trillion galaxies with perhaps between ~1 sextillion and ~1 septillion potentially habitable worlds, there should already be anywhere from ~10 trillion to ~10 quintillion alien ASIs, all of which could have exponentially improved themselves from human-level intelligence to godlike levels in mere decades or centuries, an almost infinitesimal fraction of the time since habitable planets have existed. So where are they?
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Not my thought, but Emersons via Henery Miller. I'm gonna read Tropic of Cancer finally because you mentioned Miller and because I remembered he is some kind of sex-freak who screwed a lot of writer type women and because I've been looking for something to read.

>These novels will give way, by and by, to diaries or autobiographies—captivating books, if only a man knew how to choose among what he calls his experiences that which is really his experience, and how to record truth truly.
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>>24835113
>ASIs are capable of recursive self-improvement at exponential rates
giant meme
>So where are they?
see above
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>>24835113
>ASIs are
in order to be anything, they must first be.
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>>24835106
I thought there was something wrong with my internet or computer.
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>>24835066
I will, and soon. But I should finish Moby Dick first.
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Isn't it a bit strange we attribute quotes to writers when they were said in the context of a fictional novel? Either through the dialogue or thoughts of a character or observations of the narrator, which to be fair may be the personal opinions of the writer, but far from necessarily.
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>>24835223
In fact, this makes me envision the humorous scenario of someone quoting a line to the writer, stating how much they agree with it, and the writer responds, "yeah, y'know, I don't personally believe that" lol "it was just the something the narrator thought, not me"
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>>24835230
the lines
hold their meaning
4 THA READER
regardless of
original author intention
or opinion
or even context
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>>24835241
Of course. My point is we discuss them as if they were part of a philosophical treatise by the author and not a work of fiction. Granted, most of the time these quotes are in fact putative truths the author themselves believe in, part of their worldview, but not necessarily so. It'd be like quoting Humbert Humbert for Nabokov.
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Unpopular opinion: 5am to gom schedule
is WAY better than gam to 5pm schedule.
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You have no influence on how popular with women or successful in life you are. These things are predetermined. You cannot be everything you want. The only thing you can do is make the best out of what you are.
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>>24835243
i am
presently writing
a very confrontational long form dialogue
& one has an essentially
50/50 chance
of quoting from any of it
& it being a "me" view
or something spoken
by the character I think of
as the faggot
retard
so someone quoting it
& putting me
as tha author
might or might not
be part of my
worldview
per se
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>>24835274
Yes but 4chan posts carry the default presumption of non-fiction. I'm talking about novels and epic poetry.

>To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
>Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n

Milton wrote it but is it fair to *attribute* it to Milton without clarifying it's Milton by the way of Satan in a fictional work? But maybe Milton believes that, maybe it has something to do with individual freedom and Republicanism, so we can directly quote it to him, etc etc
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>>24835283
>presumption
so many
disasters have been built
upon that very
foundation

u kno
wat they say
about ASSUME

it makes
an ASS
outta U
& ME
!

i generally agree
with wat u r saying
just 2 b clear
but it is interesting 2 nootice
just how automatically
& unquestionably
we write & read quotes
with that presuming mechanism
built into it
but it probs hold true
moast times

interdasting
2 contemplate
nonetheless
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>>24835296
I'm glad you at least now understand why the thought came to me and I felt like posting about it.
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I just went down a Wikipedia rabbit hole for a 19th country political movement based on a bestselling novel where America becomes a utopian socialist state, but the author doesn’t call it socialism and instead calls it “nationalism.” This author, this book and this political movement are now completely forgotten, but at the time it was a major sensation and influenced people like John Dewey, Upton Sinclair, Peter Kropotkin, etc. I have never heard of this book or political movement in my life before.
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Pynch just died.
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>>24831855
Why Hegelians make you seethe and why you prefer the Kantian doctrine more?
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2 songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q45D7wu0DcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfjsyKFbyqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_hQpvQYhOI
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Pynch just born.
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>met a fiction editor for a literary magazine at a get-together
>gives me a business card
>gives me a free copy of the latest issue
>ask how I can get in on it as a writer
>lukewarm response
>am terrible with names, ask the editor's name again
>says "You have my card. Look, you're already being difficult."
>am not sure what face to make at that
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Trump is a weaboo. Impeach now.
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i never understood porn addiction until i got addicted to making ai porn for a couple days. im over it now
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>>24835704
I'm not addicted to porn per se but I wank to it about a couple times a week or so
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>>24835712
lol. a lot of people jerk off almost every day. me, not so much-- but this frenzy was something else.
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some absolute 0/10 posts in this thread lately
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>>24835757
For sure
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>>24835747
Me? Four times a day at a minimum since I was 11 or so, and I'm just over 30. You people don't know shit.
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Just had some of my morning coffee and for some reason I'm feeling really angry today. It's not a feeling I'm used to, I don't like it, I can't wait for it to go away. I feel like smashing something.
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>>24833280
Yes, and the only step you need to be on the level of nietzsche or stirner or aristotle is to understand what makes a good life ( strength, independence ) and what doesn't (being a beggar bitch, losing all attachments like a monk, or drowning in hedonism )
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>>24835362
>Why Hegelians make you seethe
They're literal cultists and extremely arrogant despite being incapable of philosophizing
>why you prefer the Kantian doctrine more?
I'm not a kantian. I'm a naive realist common sense realist.



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