bros how the fuck do I into philosophy. Ive been trying to read Plato for this entire year and ive made ZERO progress understanding anything
>illiterate>paedophile seriously, why are you even still alive? you're probably indonesian, too, another reason to off yourself
>>24832785Have you tried the catamite system? to get a stronger wiser situationship with a philosophical mentor?
>>24832785you're supposed to read the michael sugrue lectures
>>24833042Sugrue is phenomenal but one thing really ground my gears, at the end of a Nietzsche lecture he said "and he WAS an anti-semite" out of nowhere. As if that burning question had lingered in the shadows the entire lecture, and simply had to be addressed out of nowhere, with no clarification. Now I am no /pol/cel but in America the prevalence of jewish exceptionalism is an undeniable plague. This applies to American academia as well, to be sure. I lost some respect for Sugrue on that day but his lectures are still some of the finest you will find anywhere.
>>24832785Read The Gospel of St. Matthew, and the Gospel of St. John. Then go back to Plato.
>>24832785Read it aloud
>>24832798I looked up her age, and it says "N/A". OP is clear.
>>24832785>how the fuck do I into philosophyDon't. If you must, start with pragmatism. It's the most concise, practical and accessible school of thought and imho first principles don't get much better than this. Especially considering that Peirce didn't really write volumes about it, he got his point across in handful of few essays. >Ive been trying to read PlatoAre you trying to read philosophy chronologically? I would definitely not recommend that as a starting point. Especially not someone as rich in topics and foreign in paradigm as Plato. You will struggle to make heads or tails of him without a religious studies intro, as do most philosophers anyway.I would recommend watching some lectures on the history of Western philosophy. It is important to see how one thinker reacted to another (ofter completely misunderstanding what they were discussing).Then I would choose one issue which actually resonates with you. Metaphysics? Free will? God? Logic? Essences? With a general understanding of history and a specific issue in mind, deep dive into the topic (contemporary discussions AND its history). Try to get to the bottom of it. Don't worry that you're becoming too niche, because any deep dive will necessarily force you to branch out into other philosophical domains.For example, if you're interested in free will, you will already understand from history of philosophy that our fascination with determinism relates to logical positivism, which took the West by storm and promised to logically determine (!) one set of facts from another. After you've weighed the pros and cons of contemporary decisions, you can form your own opinion. Then you dive into history, deeper and deeper only to find out that the original free will debate didn't necessarily even care about physical laws and libertarian time travel, it was actually a pragmatic tool to talk about one's agency and its acquired limitations (such as an addiction). Because in the end, all terms and ideas are pragmatic.
>>24833059Honestly I‘m more interested in him after hearing this even though I lean (not exclusively) toward viewing Nietzsche as philosemitic because it reveals a much more honest and involved reading of his work to come to Sugrue‘s conclusion. Polwhiners usually just spam the same two or three BGE and madness letter quotes and call it a day, ignoring all context or contradictions elsewhere. Academics who have the resources to know it‘s kind of an involved question tend to do the same thing just out of dishonesty since they want a clean and simple way out of the matter.
I have a natural aversion to philosophy and refuse to read it. I am untroubled by this.
>>24832785probably because it is hard to relate to the life of an Athenian 2000 years ago. Try something written more recently
>>24834306huh?
>>24832785pic tells me you would not make a good philosopher
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>>24832785Start with the 08th MS Team
