When will people realise that every promise of technology improving our lives has been a lie? We were all supposed to be living like kings now yet things have only gotten worse as tech has progressed and yet this faggot has the audacity to claim bigman utopia is just around the corner thanks to technology I'm so tired of tech-nerds.
>>24835648Materially speaking, we are living like Kings. The average person in the first world has better living conditions than most medieval kings. All our social problems nowadays are existential.If you don’t have to worry about starving to death, you’re in a privileged position.
>>24835648>We were all supposed to live like kingsSays fucking who? Lmao
>>24835656If everyone lives like a king, no one lives like a king. Also, even in pure material sense, that is flat out wrong. There’s great material discrepancy, not that I personally give a fuck.
>>24835648from 1939:>But if we probe a little deeper, we discover that despite all these manifestations, man’s way of thinking and acting is not progressing as much as one might be led to believe. On the contrary, the principles now underlying the actions of men, at least in a large portion of the world, are certainly more mechanical than in other periods when they were grounded in living consciousness and conviction. Technological progress has helped to make it even easier to cement old illusions more firmly, and to introduce new ones into the minds of men without interference from reason. It is the very diffusion and industrialization of cultural institutions which cause significant factors of intellectual growth to decline and even disappear, because of shallowness of content, dullness of the intellectual organs, and elimination of some of man’s individualistic creative powers. In recent decades, this dual aspect of the triumphal procession of science and technology has been repeatedly noted by both romantic and progressive thinkers. The French writer Paul Valéry has recently formulated the situation with particular cogency. He relates how he was taken to the theater as a child to see a fantasy in which a young man was pursued by an evil spirit who used every sort of devilish device to frighten him and make him do his bidding. When he lay in bed at night, the evil spirit surrounded him with hellish fiends and flames; suddenly his room would become an ocean and the bedspread a sail. No sooner did one ghost disappear, than a new one arrived. After a while these horrors ceased to affect the little boy, and finally, when a new one began, he exclaimed: Voilà les bêtises qui recommencent! (Here comes some more of that nonsense!) Some day, Valéry concludes, mankind might react in the same way to the discoveries of science and the marvels of technology.>Not all philosophers, and we least of all, share Paul Valéry’s pessimistic conception of scientific progress. But it is true that neither the achievements of science by themselves, nor the advance in industrial method, are immediately identical with the real progress of mankind. It is obvious that man may be materially, emotionally, and intellectually impoverished at decisive points despite the progress of science and industry. Science and technology are only elements in an existing social totality, and it is quite possible that, despite all their achievements, other factors, even the totality itself, could be moving backwards, that man could become increasingly stunted and unhappy, that the individual could be ruined and nations headed toward disaster.
>>24835648>The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering will abolish suffering in all sentient lifeHow? Like super sensitive serotonin receptors or something?And how do you motivate these super content people to do anything but marinate in their rooms?
>>24835663Well shit, if you only want to be personally better than other people, when will you ever think life has improved for the "we" in OP?In the meantime, we have clean water, a hygenic place to shit, hot water that comes out of the walls, meat every day, intoxicants on demand, live decades longer than we used to, travel the world in flying machines, have magic pocket devices which can conjur the finest recording of musical masterpieces out of the ether at zero notice, can instantly translate any language, and have condoms to free ourselves from venereal disease. I'm sure you manage to be miserable anyway.
This is just entirely because of the predominant ideology being a capitalistic value system. The consequence of the line of thought is that the purpose of technological improvement is not so much the growth of efficiency in service of humanity as a whole, i.e. efficient allocation of labour, efficient allocation of resources, creating self-sustaining systems that accomodate human and biodiverse life, etc. but rather the technology stands in service of depersonalized industrial complexes unconsciously attempting to engage in expansion of its power. The greatest sin of capitalism is that its a decadent value system.
>>24835715It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail.If I can't personally sit on top of a greasy pile and mock those beneath me, then God is evil and made the universe wrong!
>>24835715Yeah we do have clean hot water, a hygienic place to say, meat every day (currently completely unsustainable and ecologically destructive), intoxicants on demand (a bad thing), live longer than we used to, travel the world in flying machines (that are also unsustainable and ecologically destructive), have magic pocket devices (built from slave labour and ecologically destructive mining/waste practices) that can conjur the finest recordings out of the ether, can translate any language and have condoms to free ourselves from veneral diseases... but we still all waste our fucking time working 40 hours a week for some fake and gay job like marketing that is entirely parasitic and useless, and that's in the 'good' part of the world. Millions of people don't have access to any of the shit you just mentioned by the way. Do we have culture? Do we have freedom? Do we have meaningful social connections? Do we have an assurance of a desirable future? Not really.
>>24835736huh?
>>24835656But that's the reason why we are miserable. Because we dont have to survive anymore, and we are made to do exactly that.
>>24835648You're miserable because your spirit is poor and ungrateful, and you have leisure enough to stew on it. If you can't appreciate all your relatives surviving infancy, routinely having enough food to eat, being able to stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer, having access to library upon library of free information, the ability to contact distant family and friends, and the ability to cross countries in a matter of hours, it is because you're a cunt who takes everything for granted. You're no less free to do whatever primitive-era things you want, you just can't count on society to support you in it.Were you born in any prior time you would still be miserable and blaming it on the sad state of society. You are the overriding reason you're so miserable, work on it.
>>24835715Joe Rogan tier >durhur we have magical devices we are so blessed
>>24835656>I'm living like a king when I wake up every morning to go to my 9 to 5 desk job, broHonestly, cope.
>>24836180kek
>>24835963shut up, you dysgenics supporting tranny.
>>24835736>built from slave labour and ecologically destructive mining/waste practiceslol you’re a histrionic faggotIf that shit even slightly mattered to you in a meaningful way you would never be wasting time on a site like this to begin with. Such a retard
>>24836204You're a depraved faggot and will never acknowledge true evil.
>>24836211I’m depraved for revealing how disingenuous you are? Talk about projection.Every mainstream slop outlet “acknowledges true evil”, and the fact you even tacitly realize you have done nothing but “acknowledge” that it exists is fucking hilarious.You are just as bad as a participant by watching and doing nothing. Can you live with yourself?
>>24835715This is a negative value system where everyone lives unwholesome, purposeless lives, and communal virtue is languished by industrial's societies inorganic rhythms for the sake of feeding useless data into algorithms that will be put into the aid of AGI development, which will 100% serve to kill the remaining "useless eaters" on this planet.
>>24836225>projectionAssuming everyone is a nihilistic worm like you is peak projection. You take every disavowal on the public forum as a checkmark, one who "willingly" participates in a system he could just not be a part of at any moment.It doesn't work like that, retarded faggot. Nowhere is safe.
>>24836245*checkmark of hypocrisy
>>24836204You're an idiot. My usage of this site and my general enjoyment of goods has no bearing, ZERO BEARING, on whether these problems are fixed. You aren't actually trying to call me out on any hypocrisies you want me to be quiet. Because confrontation with the facts is something people like you are categorically allergic to, so you pull the 'if you want to fix the problem, start with yourself :)' nonsense, when I'm not the cause of the problem, and by ceasing to use these platforms I only deprive myself of something cool to the benefit of nobody. It'd be pure symbolism, virtue signalling of the highest form, and only to cede ground to faggots like you.
>>24836245>>24836502>confrontation with the factsNo one is insightful for acknowledging evil exists, and implying you are is a kind of soulless, quintessential “virtue signaling” that has existed longer than the internet. You’re just sperging out with not even the slightest thought of doing something about it.The only thing you are capable of doing is reacting online. You are incapable of thinking or doing anything outside of that terminally online framework, and you project that inaction onto everyone else you meet out of resentment. Such a sad way to live lmao
>>24835674Who/what is this from?
>>24836538Bot post.
>>24835880Buddy you can quit your email job and do something else, nobody is stopping you
>>24836857Bot post.
>>24836502Yeah but this site is a shithole filled with, as you said, nihilistic worms. Why are you even hanging out here if you don't like the company?
>>24836795>>24836874On what grounds?
>>24835663>if everyone lives like a king, no one lives like a king.This is very stupid. The original.poster meant living like a medieval king. The medieval king dindt have access to what we have access now. If everyone has access to commodities the medieval king couldnt reach, then yes, everyone is loving like a king
>>24835674I would like to see examples of this growing stupidity.People have less supersticion today than they had in the previous centuries. Basic Scientifical concepts are well known for billions of people
>>24836885I'm not living like a medieval king cuz I don't have horses, falcons, or servants
>>24836538It was relevant to bring up in context of the thread. I didn't just randomly start complaining for no reason. But I guess complaining about when people say that yes actually our systems are decadent, unsustainable and destructive is a much less sad way to live, right?>>24836875That wasn't me.
>>24835656This.I'm so tired of little bitchboys being able to whine into my digital ear-eyes. It would be one thing for you to keep your frailness to yourself, but for some reason you're compelled to come seek company here. You're the kind of tard who probably believes the microwave oven is radioactive, right? Yet it is an example of an invention that has improved everyones life and is exponentially more energy efficient than a caveman era campfire roast.We need some kind of perfectly realistic neural VR prison where kids like this can be strapped in for a couple years as punishment, forced to 'live that life' they so romanticize. Maybe you'd prosper there, who knows? It is entirely possible you're just not meant for this era.
>>24836927Deal with it. The bitch boys don't usually have a voice, who knows how long it will last.
>>24836896There are multiple examples in your post. If you're like most people you don't even know what superstition is and fall for every manor of magical thinking you claim to have surpassed, not being able to spell it doesn't help your case.Nobody does science anymore, every concept related to it has been subverted. Bell labs was a symbol for 20th century scientific engineering and that symbol collapsed in a mire of corruption decades ago, corruption that every retard on the planet pretending to do science now emulates.Real indicators of genetic health and intelligence like reaction times have dropped significantly in the last century. We are measurably the dumbest, unhealthiest generation of humans in all history and every generation is worse than the last.
>>24835648I don't think it's as bad as we make it out to be. Everybody in this thread presumably has food, water, shelter, and a device with internet connection. If you can't find a way to turn that comfortable living situation into something enjoyable, even if it's just as a neet shitposting and reading pdfs all day, that's on you.
>>24837812You are the worst.
>>24835715We have comfort, but not as much autonomy, purpose, or real culture or community as we used to. I don't want to idealize anything but it's hard to argue that more primitive or traditional societies weren't healthier in some ways
>>24837812I'm happy when an external circumstance forces me to concentrate and be productive... it's good to have a reason to move, i don't blame people for being degenerate when the need to be generative is taken away
>>24837812For me, those things are coming to an end. I am struggling to afford the little life I carved for myself. Motivation is so hard to grasp now...
>>24836900You have a car, phone and access to women. What is wrong with you?
>>24836927>microwave oven is radioactiveKek
