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This is really REALLY bad
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>>24835921
Watch the film, that's the real classic.
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>>24835921
What did you expect? His wife wrote it.
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>>24835929
>Watch the film, that's the real classic.
Mogged by Interview with the Vampire
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>>24835921
Please, it's only kind of really bad.
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>>24835921
>mfw I was gifted a copy by my gf
By god women are absolutely clueless
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>>24835921
Oh, is that why we still talk about it 125 years later?
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>>24835921
>I didn’t read it I just want (You)s
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>>24835921
Jonathan's letters from the castle alone make this book worth reading. Peak atmospheric gothic horror. The Van Hellsing chapters bring the book down a notch, but it's still far from bad, you've just got shit taste.
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>>24836101
The only good part is the first part at the Castle. The rest is abysmal. Guy should have just cut his book in half.
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>>24835921
>>24835970
mogged by shadow of the vampire
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Eggers' Nosferatu was kino. I only learned recently that the original Nosferatu was a rip off of Dracula and not its own thing. Just changing names and location to avoid copyright claims, lol.

>Even with several details altered, Stoker's widow Florence sued over the adaptation's copyright violation, and a court ruling ordered all copies of the film to be destroyed.[5] However, several prints of Nosferatu survived,[1] and the film came to be regarded as an influential masterpiece of cinema and the horror genre.
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>>24835921
The first half is excellent, but the rest is incredibly boring, although the ending is good. I was surprised by how good Coppola’s adaptation is
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>>24836169
>>24836117
>>24835921
>Johnathan at the castle
Excellent
>Mina and Lucy's letters talking about betrothal
Awful
>anything with Seward
Interesting
>anything with Van Helsing
Boring
>Lucy's dilemma
Fun
>Any scene with Renfield
Delicious
>any scene with Quincy
Rootin tootin, get the winchesters
>Dracula's retreat
Boring
>Van Helsing and Mina go winter camping with magic crackers
Boring
>End sequence with dirty gypsies
Fun, but super rushed
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>>24836165
>Eggers' Nosferatu was kino.
It was underwhelming, only people with no film culture whatsoever were impressed.
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>>24835921
the bit at the castle is interesting
the rest is fucking boooooooooooring
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>>24836572
>only people with no film culture whatsoever were impressed.
Wow you are so cool for watching 8 1/2 or Chungking Express or whatever the fuck. Pretentious. Eggers is the best living horror director and you are gay and fat.
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>>24835921
Literally a shameless ripoff of Carmilla.
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>>24836679
I'm sorry for your tastes.
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>>24836357
Read it recently and had the same impression. Also the shit grammar of van Helsing get annoying quickly.
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>>24835970
>>24835929
>>24836146
mogged by what we do in the shadows
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>>24836945
If friend anon does not like words of van helsing, he is of child brain. Broken english is man brain way of speaking.

It did get old though, especially with his long monologues.
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>>24835921
Why?

>>24835929
Based
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>>24837199
You can't be serious...
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>>24835921
It's really not that bad at all. Some of the characters and their decisions feel artificial af, but the writing is pleasant and main characters getting up-to-speed with what the reader knows is a tension well built.
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>>24837222
i'm not Sirius, i'm Shirley
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>>24837253
Ohh weee, then show me your tits honeybun.
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>>24837199
Finally, someone has the courage to say what we're all thinking.
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>>24837241
The biggest issues, in my opinion, are the pacing and the character development. The pacing goes from page turner to absolute slog depending on the chapter. Then there are scenes that are great, but horribly rushed. Some characters receive too much development time that goes nowhere, or is spent on mundane things instead of anything of worth (Mina, Lucy) and others receive little to no real development (Quincy, Arthur, Van Helsing). The latter example is especially egregious because a good chunk of the novel involves Van Helsing, but you're just supposed to accept that he is the absolute man, and a lot of scenes featuring him are mostly rants instead of developing any type of substantial backstory. He just knows things, ok? He's so fucking cool, ok? Shut up, dude, don't ask why or how he knows this stuff, we gotta sprinkle cookies on Dracula's bed and Lucy needs another blood transfusion.
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>>24835921
Stoker is not known to be a particularly good writer. He just created a particularly great character with Dracula
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>>24837199
This anon knows...
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>>24837385
What is Dracula's character?
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I've reached the 3rd chapter and it has been great so far. What Stoker needed was a good editor to catch his obvious errors, most importantly some of the anachronisms in the sequence of events
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If Bram never crawled, Anne Rice would have never flown.
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>>24838604
Her husband wrote all her work.
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>>24838606
And so it begins.
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>>24838607
coincidence? i think not!
https://www.chicagotribune.com/1992/06/18/anne-rice-considers-frankenstein-deal/
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>>24835921
Even worse is it starts off decent. End of the first section in the castle and you can throw the book away. And I can't believe how bad the climax was.
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>>24835921

>really REALLY bad
Naaa. You're living in a world with Colleen Hoover in it. It's just "surprisingly bad in several ways". Bits of it are good, bits of it are OK.

If you want a really bad Bram Stoker book, try Lair of the White Worm. (The film is actually watchable. Goofy comedy / horror with all the typical Ken Russell restraint and good taste. Amanda Donohoe has a lot of fun.)


>>24837385
>Stoker not good writer. Dracular just great character.
This. Dracula is surely in the top ten most famous literary creations of all time, but as a novel, the book isn't in the top thousand. Must be annoying for all those writers at the other end of the spectrum (i.e. competent but unheard-of). Imagine labouring for decades only to see some drunken Irish hobo leapfrogging your finely-wrought characters and seizing the public imagination round the world.


>>24837383
>The biggest issues, in my opinion, are the pacing and the character development.
The two biggest issues for me were:

— Looking after Lucy. They soon work out that Lucy is being menaced by someone coming in the window so all they have to do is SHUT THE WINDOW. They literally have one job and they can't manage it. "Oh, damn, we left the window open for the sixth time." It gets comic.

— The ending. The final battle is rushed and anticlimactic. You should fight the monster in his lair where he's at his strongest, not bump him off just before he wakes up.
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>>24838673
kek. Chad Arthur and two doctors couldn't beat horny batcel.
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I named my cat after Mina.
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>>24838673
Looking after Lucy became absolutely comical, especially with her extremely fragile mother being thrown into the mix. Everyone was like:

Bro, don't you know where we are, bro? Dude, this is Lucy's mom's house. Bro, if Lucy's mom realizes that other people exist, her ticker's done for, man. Dude, I'm telling you, like, don't even give Lucy's mom any indication that metaphysical realities beyond her perception have the possibility to exist or her heart will literally explode, bro.
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>>24838831
One of the most hilarious scenes was when Arthur gave Lucy a blood transfusion (ABO is a myth, we don't believe in ABO here), and was like "Since we couldn't be wed, me giving her my blood symbolizes our union as man and wife", to which Seward and Van Helsing exchange nervous glances after having dumped liters of their own blood into Lucy without Arthur knowing.
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>>24839203
What a whore. Mina also sucked Dracula's nipples while Jonathan sat on his cuck chair.
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>>24835921
My favorite parts were when Mina wastes her time transcribing the doctor's wax cylinder diaries into a written diary, and when she is writing in her diary how they are all sitting around writing in their diaries. Absolutely obsessive graphomania. Haven't seen this level of updating my journal since Planescape.
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>>24838606
A straight man would never write about acquiring a perfect Lolita vampire qt gf for eternity just to come out as gay in the last third of the book



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