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How come nobody has surpassed Japanese literature?
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>>24839401
I'm interested in Japanese literature. What are non Doomer books?
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The Japanese can't write, there might be an argument for SOME 'classics' but the modern Japanese language is a travesty of loan words and Engrish

>There was a big mountain
>the sky is blue
>the window is blowing
>It's summer
>I want to die
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>>24839401
There's nothing to surpass. East Asian literature in general is completely worthless.
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>>24839407
The Sound of Waves by Mishima. You can't expect much by way of non-doomer /lit/ seeing as the 19th century was particularly disruptive for them and the 20th was...rough.
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>>24839478
There are a ton of great classics, but so much is lost in translation, whether it's English or modern Japanese. I agree that modern Japanese is a not well suited for literature
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>>24839478
uh, weebbros...
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>>24839478
>the sky is green
ftfy
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>>24839401
No one really gives a shit about japanese literature and all of it is just vacuous adolescent grasping at pseudo-poetics about "muh suffering" for a people whose mechanical ass society has left them too emotionally poorly equipped to even know how to express their vacuous, uninteresting problems, compared to most of the world.

Russian and French reign supreme in all areas.
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I can read Japanese trust me it's not some three thousand year old esoteric Asian mysticism hidden inside moonrunes, I would prefer English translations at this point.
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>>24839681
>French
Pretentious sexslop
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This shitty language can't handle abstraction at all so it ended up with a bloated lexicon most Japanese don't even use.
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>>24839698
What French books have you read? Who's your favorite author too
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>>24839478
>>the window is blowing
ESL here is that real engrish? Why would a window blow
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>>24839401
>no The Pillow Book
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>>24839726
windows like oral sex :)
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>>24839716
Which ones don't fit my description?
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>>24839844
Is that an actual question? Do you honestly believe in what you're saying right now? Be honest.
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>>24839879
Yes 100%. The symbolists/decadents are the most egregious examples
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Idk why I'm still studying Japanese in order to read Japanese literature
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>>24839407
>Japanese literature
>non Doomer
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>>24839886
Then you need to unironically read more French lit instead of authors who help further the agenda of gobal cultural destruction. Rousseau, Chateaubriand, Senancour, Bloy, Perec, Chamfort, Rabelais, Moliere, Racine, Corneille, La Fontaine and blablabla an endless amount of extraodinary examples who don't fit that description.
It is a thousand times easier to make a list of auhors who fit your description. You may try it by googling "most popular French authors".
It's also something you'd know if you actually were interested in French literature (and I say that with no animosity) and read at least 50 books (which isn't a lot).
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>>24839910
>read at least 50 books
French* books
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>>24839900
Don't lie. You're learning Japanese so you masturbate to VNs
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>>24839936
Just because that's your reason for learning Japanese, doesn't mean it's everyone else's
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>>24839936
It could be both.
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>>24839910
I actually wanted to read Chateaubriand but couldn't find an English translation. Moliere seems good too. Didn't care for Rabelais though
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>>24840018
Well there's a recent english translation of Memoirs from Beyond the Grave up on amazon that got done just recently for what it's worth. I really recommend it. This, the Confessions and Casanova's Histoire de ma vie are my favorite autobiography/memoirs. Moliere is great, especially The Misanthropist. Rabelais is something you'd enjoy if you like Don Quixote and Tristam Shandy, otherwise you probably wouldn't.
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>>24839401
I always get the sense the translator is struggling to put the words into meaningful sentences like fitting a wrong shaped dowel down a hole.
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>>24840041
Oh nice shid is probably cheap on Kindle, I just might check it out.
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>>24839936
Yes, and?
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>>24840049
I am happy to have possibly converted yet another to the Chateaubriand cult. Have fun if you do
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>>24840043
because when you translate Japanese to English you have to add stuff back in that is implicit.
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>>24839401
The Russians trump the Japs for literature. However the Japanese make better cinema which is a superior art form so I guess it works out even
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>>24840319
Anime isn't art
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>>24840323
It can be but anime isn't cinema. Anime is anime you idiot they're two completely different things
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>>24840319
>>24840326
Anime IS cinema but that is irrelevant. The superior literature is russian. The superior cinema is russian, although Japs don't slack when it comes to film. Those considered to be the greatest of all times in both mediums are often considered to be russian.

The best writer of the last 200 years was russian (Dosto), the best director ever was russian (Tarkovski), the best prose written in english was written by a russian (Nabokov)
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>>24840323
Japan has so much more cinema to offer than anime. Kurosawa's filmography alone is better than every film that's ever come from Russia
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>>24840340
>The best writer of the last 200 years was russian (Dosto)
Agreed


>the best director ever was russian (Tarkovski)
Agree also but Japan has a far more weightier and strong back catalogue of cinema compared to Russia. They've got Tarkovsky, Lopushansky and Klimov but not a huge amount else.
>the best prose written in english was written by a russian (Nabokov)
Nabakov had nice prose sure but his books are shit and he was a dumb cunt
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>>24840354
>Kurosawa's filmography alone is better than every film that's ever come from Russia
Lol. And /lit/ is supposed to be the high IQ board?
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>>24840568
m assuming your some Tarkovsky cuck
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>>24841083
Not him, but Andrei Rublev alone blows the entire nip cinema out of the water.



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