Camp of the Saints got the details wrong, but it was correct in the essential points.>Increasing demographic disparities between the first world and the third world will inevitably lead to a shifting balance of power>White countries will be demographically replaced by more aggressive and fertile foreign populations, with the complicity and collaboration of western elites>White western elites know it will be a horrific disaster, but a mixture of moral cowardice, an ideological commitment to egalitarianism and nihilism prevents them from acting>Churches will be heavily involved in the great replacement, and the media will beat down any opposition to it with moral blackmail and shaming>Everyday whites will be opposed, but will be pacified with claims from government leaders that it will be okay, and the fear of being seen as a "racist" prevents them from speaking up>Non-whites will in white countries have a covetous attitude towards whites, and will hound them to share every space with them. And will angle for intermarriage incessantly.>White women will end up raped and enslaved, enslaved sexually, as what we have seen in Rotherham, weekly in the news in Italy. or at the German festivals after the migrant crisis>Third worlders will become boastful about their conquests after they've passed a certain demographic threshold.>Third world settlers in white countries will rewrite the nature of their settlement in white countries to be a historical vindication of colonialism. The moralizing discussions that took place in the early stages of the great replacement between whites are ignored, un-thanked and forgotten.>White Socialists will be deluded and think they can achieve a synthesis transformation that will liberate western society from racism, guilt and capitalism. But will be disposed of by the non-whites who are conservative for their actual racial interests. As we've seen with the Gaza ticket emerging in the UK and Islamists taking over left leaning parties.>Anti-racist and hate speech legislation forbids Europeans from vocally opposing and organizing political opposition to their replacement. Actual French anti-racist legislation is mentioned explicitly in The Camp of the Saints to emphasize this very point.>Third world migrants will, after a certain threshold, transform western countries into where they come from, making them an extension of the third world. They'll do this by leeching economically off of businesses and the government until the financial system collapses. Any present extrapolation of the cost of non-white migrants in Europe, and the future demographic trends, shows this to be trueAm I missing anything?
>>24840617And what are you going to do about it, whiteboy?
>>24840617It is what it is. Life goes on
miss him yet?
>>24840617nazoids once again proving they don't know anything about the arab world, the arab world is more civilised than debauched shitholes like britain full of chavs puking everywhere and fucking each other in the street. add to that that islamists are more refined and ideologically interesting than western "conservatives" and i say bring on the islamicisation of europe, that will absolutely not happen because most migrants are middle class anyway, as that's the only way to get the money to pay people smugglers
fucking hell, no wonder this site has gone to the dogs if clueless monkeys like this are posting here now
>>24840617Ironically enough, the real Camp of the Saints scenario will just be Africa zutting the rest of the world with its net fertility rate. Even India is about to hit a fertility crisis in two or three decades.
>>24840668Right, that's why your countries are poor undeveloped shitholes. And places where the people are still desperately trying to migrate to Europe. And the few decent Arab societies that exist were built with foreign cognitive labour. Look at the names of the engineers that designed your oil fields, they're white. I had a relative work there in the 90s and he had nothing but contempt for the gulf oil sheiks. Impossible to please, arbitrary, prone to changing their mind, unable to comprehend things even when they're presented in the most babby language. And the trashiness of the region reflects the mentality of the people, it's like if you gave 80IQ Texan Pentecostals a trillion dollars in wealth, they'd build all the exact same tacky shit the Gulf Arabs in the desert built. And that's the best of your race! The little cognitive talent that exists in the region isn't Muslim. They're Copts, Mizrahi Arabs, Alawite, or Lebanese Christian. Anyone stupid enough to believe in shitslam retarded himself first through inbreeding, and then through intermarrying with black african slaves.
>>24840617Why not cut the middleman and just make this thread on /pol?
>>24840688Have you tried posting on /pol/ these days? It's a retarded board. And this is literature related, I have read the book after all. >>24840686Already Egyptians and Moroccans are herding up blacks like cattle. And in Sudan you're seeing an actual TND genocide break out. The rest of the world will not tolerate absurd African population growth, even if whites tolerate it.
>>24840692>And in Sudan you're seeing an actual TND genocide break out.why are they doing that again?
>>24840687>Right, that's why your countries are poor undeveloped shitholes.firstly, they're not undeveloped they're just not industrialised. secondly, if they're poor it's because of imperialist meddling that's been going on for centuries.>And the few decent Arab societies that exist were built with foreign cognitive labour. Look at the names of the engineers that designed your oil fields, they're white. that's like asking why there's no indian east india company. because you fucking systematically shut down any competition and used your puppet rulers to give foregin companies monopolies over arab natural resources.>I had a relative work there in the 90s and he had nothing but contempt for the gulf oil sheiks. Impossible to please, arbitrary, prone to changing their mind, unable to comprehend things even when they're presented in the most babby language. 1. they're your puppets, 2. they're richer than you because they understand how to weaponise their natural resources, see the 70s oil crisis>And the trashiness of the region reflects the mentality of the people, it's like if you gave 80IQ Texan Pentecostals a trillion dollars in wealth, they'd build all the exact same tacky shit the Gulf Arabs in the desert built. i don't even know why you're focusing on those guys who are richer than you and are also opposed to their own culture-islamists oppose them far more than westerners do!>And that's the best of your race! The little cognitive talent that exists in the region isn't Muslim. They're Copts, Mizrahi Arabs, Alawite, or Lebanese Christian.you mean gay little science dorks? who cares, the islamists and muslims have an actual ideology better than anything the west has ever cooked up. you're simply spiritually bereft, ignorant and ideologically incurious-who's dumber, the oil sheikhs or the guy who works for oil sheikhs? i doubt you even know who nasser and qutb were lmao, that's the level of ignorance you have
>>24840718he says this while literally everything around him was designed or built by westerners
>>24840744are we supposed to be impressed by the efforts of blacksmiths, masons and carpenters? are we to believe that the production of objects is the most impressive thing in a civilisation? move over socrates, simmer down augustine, kill yourself nietzsche!!! there is an interesting new sandal, pepperbox and moustache trimmer that put all your efforts to shame!
>>24840687>The little cognitive talent that exists in the region isn't Muslim.It actually is. They are Shia Muslims from Iran (Persians). They are the best of the middle east and then come the Lebanese Christians.
>>24840755if it was so easy then the locals would have done it but no, they preferred riding camels and telling stories around a campfire
>>24840763iranians are turbo-nerd dorkoids and it's not even racial, iranian nationality and cultural identity exists independently of persian ethnicity>>24840772lmao they tried to fucking do it and then got colonised and all their industry and natural resources given away to foreigners. whenever they tried to nationalise such things, europeans intervened and crushed the government
>>24840763I've never met a persian but I do get the vibes they're relatively smart people.
>>24840617Does this book have a happy ending where they stop it all or a sad ending where they fail?
>>24840780a happy ending where the third world stops the disease of western liberalism? yes
it is almost comical how ignorant liberals and nazis are of european colonial history. and these people try to lecture others!
>>24840788t. thinks arabs have achieved more than euros
>>24840780It has a sad ending where they fail. Raspail said he was planning on adding an ending where the soldiers shoot and Europe redeems itself, but he got to that point and just didn't think it was fitting.Later in 2010, when he reflected on the book and how accurate it was, he said it was down to someone else to write how Europe would be saved. He personally predicted that the French would end up taking their core population and whatever assimilated minorities with them, and perhaps strike out on their own again.
>>24840789in the scale of human values? yes
>arab>human values
>>24840804read qutb before you seethe about arabs and go on about sandals and pepperboxes
>novel is about how non-whites express full grievance politics and post-colonial butthurt as they settle and replace the Europeans>Seething Arab ITT expressing grievance politics and post-colonial butthurtlike pottery
>>24840813and my point was the "post-colonial butthurt" is more civilised, intellectual and interesting than european libtardery and nazoidery. i'm not even an arab or a muslim anyway
>>24840818It isn't, actually.
>>24840617Posted it again awardGo back to /pol/ retard and take your seething araboid with you
>>24840819you're obviously ignorant about liberalism, fascism and islamism lol, so your statement is based on nothing>>24840822bite me atheist libtard, philosophy and ideology belongs on this board
>>24840822I'd really prefer if people tried to talk about the novel instead of just treating this thread like /pol/, but my mistake.
>>24840827yeah you innocently posted that OP and are now fucking concerned that people are treating it as a political statement because you're simply ignorant about everything you're talking about
>>24840692>The rest of the world will not tolerate absurd African population growth, even if whites tolerate it.Yeah this always feels like an incredible oversight to me in the calculus of demographics and population and the future. What if a bunch of people just get fucking killed? And I mean systematically killed, genocided and such. We have seen that you actually can do a pretty handy job of wiping out millions, even tens of millions, of people if you've got the organization and the infrastructure for it.Like, people assume that inevitable Europe is going to get overrun with Arabs and blacks. But we know the Euros are historically quite good at systematic violence on a large scale. What if they just herd all the non-whites into camps and starve them there? It's been done before.People can just get fucking killed. People can just get butchered like farm animals. I almost never see this enter into the talk of demographics in the future. It's like the average armchair intellectual is just a peacnik for whom violence isn't part of their imagination.It's exactly the same as people who never imagine that the United States and China will ever have a nuclear war. Of course they could, both nations are nuclear powers and they're caught in the Thucydides Trap. It's "unthinkable" but is it really?There's a lot of shit that modern intellectuals consider unthinkable that to me seems entirely logical and perfectly thinkable, and I don't understand it.
>>24840824>you're obviously ignorant about liberalism, fascism and islamism lol, so your statement is based on nothingWrong.
>>24840868well i'm convinced
Does it say anything about oligarchs using a demagogue to swindle them and take away their liberties to be able to exploit and enslave them? Does it mention palantir and the heritage foundation?
>>24840617>rising tide of poo
>>24840985Big business is mentioned with the meatworks that employs Congolese migrant workers. The Congolese who, after the Ganges speech, slaughter their white shift manager, dice him into little bits and put his remains in the cans. Bringing the same cannibalism that you see in the Congo to Europe. The other businesses mentioned are reduced to unprofitable enterprises as the non-white majority forces labour law changes that allows them to just loaf about at work. The same sort of Licence Raj behavior you see in India.So the book is pretty clear that even if big business and the oligarchs do profit initially, they eventually lose out too.
>>24841003Im sure Steve Bannon is warning all the tech bros and elon musk that is not going to happen, right?
>>24840755Basically all math & science was discovered by Europeans (and Jews). You are speaking a European language, on a European's website (moot), using European technology, which was developed using European math & science. Everything around you, the car, train, plane, computer, internet, phone, your toothpaste, all of it was made by Europeans (& Jews). Also Arabs have an average IQ of 85 lol
>>24840793HAHAHAHA
>>24840985does it mention how libtards were fine with democrats doing the exact same thing as long as they legalised heckin' gay marriage?>>24841054>You are speaking a European languagei am speaking a mongrel language where all the good parts are mediterranean and the numerals are arabic>on a European's website (moot)amerimutt>which was developed using European math & sciencethe good parts of which were arab, indian and greek>Everything around you, the car, train, plane, computer, internet, phone, your toothpaste, all of it was made by Europeansall mere objects> (& Jews). kike>Also Arabs have an average IQ of 85 lolthe exact same IQ as the average white prole/ coalburner>>24841055read qutb and revert, unless you're a kike in which case you can burn in hell
>>24841070Bait or retarded (muslim)Call it
>>24841076>no argumenti accept your concession
>>24841070>i am speaking a mongrel language where all the good parts are mediterranean and the numerals are arabicYou will never be Mediterranean, Ahmed. Romans were genetically closest to North Italians, South French, and Spanish. >the good parts of which were arab, indian and greek"Arab" (Persian) "math" was mostly translating Greek works. You can very safely write a history of math textbook while only briefly mentioning non-European contributions (such as the Indian number system). I would know more than most since I have a math degree.Here's one https://files.catbox.moe/a1ys3b.pdfYou will also never be Greek. Greeks are in the European genetic cluster, overwhelmingly descended from ANF and PIE, and speak an IE language. You are an Arab.
>>24841091>maths degree>retarded nazoid seething about genetic markers and ignoring my main argument that arabs contributed more to philosophy, culture and ideology than "white" europeans did, who both the greeks and romans viewed as culturally distinct from themunsurprising
>>24841098The argument is so retarded how does even respond. "No". Fish in water doesn't realize the water is all around him. I'm sure you're more influenced by Arabs given you (hopefully) live in some Arab country, but to say that Arabs have even 1/10th of the cultural accomplishments of Europeans is hystericalAnd still you will never be Greek or Roman, Ahmed. They were both, specially the Romans, firmly European populations, genetically.
>>24841111>but to say that Arabs have even 1/10th of the cultural accomplishments of Europeans is hystericalyou only say that because you consider art and music to be culture and you consider a wide volume of political and philosophical achievements of dubious value to be of great value purely because there are many of them>They were both, specially the Romans, firmly European populations, genetically.genetically? debatably.culturally? hell no lol
>>24840617I tried to read this book after seeing people here meme it over and over but couldn't get passed the second or third chapter where the communist goes into the professor's house and the professor goes on a long chud rant before shooting the communist with a shotgun. It sounded exactly like some shit some /pol/ retard would write. It wasn't even a good rant.>inb4 that sounds based
Camp of the Saints is one of the funniest books I’ve read in addition to being uncannily prescient. Are any of his other books as entertaining?
>>24840617>Third world migrants will, after a certain threshold, transform western countries into where they come from, making them an extension of the third world. They'll do this by leeching economically off of businesses and the government until the financial system collapses. Any present extrapolation of the cost of non-white migrants in Europe, and the future demographic trends, shows this to be trueVery true. Perhaps surprisingly, this is happening first at our high-end institutions moreso than our low-end, viz. Microsoft, Boeing, and so forth.I've always loved this rant because it's not explicitly anti-Indian, but we all know what kind of "corporate culture" exists now at Microshaft especially when there's these insane emails by vrijinashaski guptaprakthishsahfdj in the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC-0tCy4P1U . Only Indians could take software and make it run slower than it did twenty years ago on exponentially improved hardware, all literal statements.Complementary articles:https://archive.is/4pP8dhttps://archive.ph/vhPyc
>>24840793>resting on the laurels of achievements from n centuries agoArab policies doomed their civilizations with their retardation, just the same as we are doing now. America is not the country it was last century, and we're on track to collapse still, even with Trump trumping around. He's nowhere near racist enough and he just cucked to China for some worthless faggot soibean farmers. There is no politician with an explicitly nuke India stance which is fundamentally necessary right now.
>>24841440>Arab policies doomed their civilizations with their retardationno the mongol conquests then european imperialism and arabs who were more interested in collaborating with their conquerors and importing white slave rulers than preserving their culture doomed their civilisations.> America is not the country it was last century, and we're on track to collapse still, even with Trump trumping around. He's nowhere near racist enough and he just cucked to China for some worthless faggot soibean farmers. There is no politician with an explicitly nuke India stance which is fundamentally necessary right now.moron
>>24841476>no the mongol conquests then european imperialism and arabs who were more interested in collaborating with their conquerors and importing white slave rulers than preserving their culture doomed their civilisations.so... arab policies?
>>24841487how are any of those political policies other than importing white slave rulers
>>24840655Hitler and Nazism are poison-pills for more sensible right-wing thought. To institute good degrees of nativism and economic protectionism for Western nations doesn’t require glorification of Hitler, and by extension bringing up the idea in many people’s minds of violent expansionism & violent eugenics policies.Tightening the borders and have a reasonable strong degree of preference for one’s nation’s demographic majority and founding stock DOES NOT need Hitler-worship, who led to the death of lots of Europeans anyway.
>>24841753>bringing up the idea in many people’s minds of violent expansionism & violent eugenics policies.only stupid historically illiterate boomers raised on jewish TV and they will die.
>>24841347The whole point of the professor and his chud squad is that they come across as nihilistic and juvenile, they're meant to be chuds. The only organized resistance to the great replacement is a few TND mass shooters, and the boat captain who runs a bunch of Indians over with his ship.
>>24840621jan 6 bitch
>>24842189you're gonna grill some hotdogs and throw some plastic waterbottles on the ground?
Jannies stop wanking off and move this thread to /pol/
>>24840617fiction?
>>24840718>if they're poor it's because of imperialist meddling that's been going on for centuries.they wouldn't be imperialized if they weren't poor. If you had a robust dynamic economy, europe wouldnt be able to imperialize it a la japan.
>>24842688>omeletlooks more like sunny side ups to me.
>>24841753yeah hitler elevated your shitty political position into opera and tragedy, we all know>>24842714>they wouldn't be imperialized if they weren't poor.that is literally the opposite of how colonialism works. tell that to china and india. japan closed off its country and limited trade, so there was no economic incentive for europeans to colonise it, and was later opened up by force anyway
>>24842738>that is literally the opposite of how colonialism worksyou sure? they imperialized the (mostly) desolated americas pretty well.>tell that to china and indiathey were poor AND economically regressive. You think post mughal india was some advanced region with fractional reserve banking? No it was a feudal shithole of chaos. And the Qing were a lethargic beurocratic mess.Although I agree, places like Bengal and china were much more advanced than most of the Islamic west asian/north african world at the time. No one accuses tripoli of being particularly dynamic outside of a crude slave raiding ring.
>>24842755>you sure? they imperialized the (mostly) desolated americas pretty well.vast natural resources>they were poor AND economically regressive. you are literally too ignorant to argue with. europeans literally had nothing of value to trade with the chinese for tea other than silver until they stumbled upon opium.>Although China did buy some British manufactured and raw goods, tea was a much bigger seller in Britain than British calico, iron, and tin were in China. Between 1710 and 1759, the imbalance in trade was staggering, drainingBritain of silver, the only form of payment China accepted for its coveted tea. During this period, Britain paid out £26 million in silver to China, butsold it only £9 million in goods. British traders had to find something China wanted as much as theBritish wanted tea, and would be willing to pay for in silver.
>>24842776undynamic economy. literally fell cause someone wanted to buy tea and sell them opium, not even fell to full scale conquest, but sear economic pressure, lol.
>>24842797>literally fell cause someone wanted to buy tea and sell them opium, not even fell to full scale conquest, but sear economic pressureliterally fell to having their cities repeatedly destroyed and plundered and their ports shut down, yes
>>24840687Brutal
>>24840818>i'm not even an arab or a muslim anywayTaqiyya used to be believable
>>24840718>1. they're your puppets, 2. they're richer than you because they understand how to weaponise their natural resources, see the 70s oil crisisAnd now they are all queued up to suck the dick of Israel, the country they were at war with (militarily on various occassions, and economically see the 70s). This won't change when US loses its office as global hegemon. The conversation about Palestine is carried by Western institutions and their sympathisers while ''Muslim'' leaders cuddle up with Israel. Most countries still have relationship with Israel, direct flights, trade, etc... To muslims, optics is what matters.It's actually fucking PATHETIC that you wrote all of that out while Western taxpayers are doing more for your cause than you yourself. I know the reason your nations are failed shitholes: it's because you are a retarded, disorganised and arrogant people that lack self-reflection. Two centuries ago the nafris were politely asked to stop piracy, which consisted of raiding shores and ships for slaves and booty in the Mediterranean and beyond, by France (and none other than Thomas Jefferson). Did you see the writing on the wall, having turned potent forces against you? Nope, your Tripolitan ambassador told the US founding fathers to go fuck themselves and that they actually deserve to be killed or enslaved because the were not muslim and allah said it's okay. The US and France had enough and put your piracy to an end. The latter actually being forced to take more than just the ports from which it was conducted, because the entire country declared jihad on the filthy kuffar which forced France to subdue you rats.That's a part of history class that needs to be understood by the way: as soon as the French were out of North Africa, you reverted to being the same human traffickers and violent criminals you were centuries ago. Everywhere in Europe your kind is associated with violent gangs and chimpouts, it's truly in your blood. So to come here and say your civlisation is superior is deliberate gaslighting or deluded wewuzzing. Either way, middle eastern muslim countries are at their absolute peak right now. This is the best you will EVER get as muslim societies. In fact, the world is sending your superior societies billions every year in gibs (either to your cockroach diaspora in the form of gibs or directly to your countries as foreign aid). We should really stop that and let you be superior on your own, that way you can REALLY show us.
>>24842903.And now they are all queued up to suck the dick of Israel, the country they were at war with (militarily on various occassions, and economically see the 70s). This won't change when US loses its office as global hegemon. The conversation about Palestine is carried by Western institutions and their sympathisers while ''Muslim'' leaders cuddle up with Israel.you're using arab and muslim interchangably and ignoring that islamists oppose these fake muslims>That's a part of history class that needs to be understood by the way: as soon as the French were out of North Africa, you reverted to being the same human traffickers and violent criminals you were centuries ago. Everywhere in Europe your kind is associated with violent gangs and chimpouts, it's truly in your blood. So to come here and say your civlisation is superior is deliberate gaslighting or deluded wewuzzing.you are making the same arguments that qutb made, a man who said that islam was opposed to slavery and that those who did not adhere to a strict interpretation of islam weren't real muslims. what a good islamist you'd make!> In fact, the world is sending your superior societies billions every year in gibs (either to your cockroach diaspora in the form of gibs or directly to your countries as foreign aid). in exchange for oil wealth or to keep the suez open lol
>>24840810Qutb was a cameljockey who got rightfully executed promoting a particularly virulent strain of sandnigger ideology.>>24840813What, you really expect them to have cultivated self-reflection? These people set themselves on fire to stick it to the West (and they cry for a Western waterhose).>>24840818Know what's interesting? That you haven't given examples to prove your point despite being so convinced.
>>24842939>Qutb was a cameljockey who got rightfully executed promoting a particularly virulent strain of sandnigger ideology.>Know what's interesting? That you haven't given examples to prove your point despite being so convinced.you are simply too ignorant to argue with
>>24842922>you're using arab and muslim interchangablyI'm talking about the muslim middle eastern countries, which are virtually all Arab. >ignoring that islamists oppose these fake muslimsLol, where's the jihad on Israel? Muslims were very eager to chop heads in Syria and Iraq in the 2010s but have been awfully quiet ever since. Seemingly, they know what hand not to bite.>you are making the same arguments that qutb made, a man who said that islam was opposed to slavery and that those who did not adhere to a strict interpretation of islam weren't real muslims. what a good islamist you'd make!My people aren't the one grinding for the number 1 spot in every crime statistic, that would be muslims (the superior civilisation).>in exchange for oil wealth or to keep the suez open lolWhy do you need gibs if you have oil? oops..?
>>24842942Thanks for bowing out so quickly, it was a pleasure learning about the civlisation you claim to be superior. Unfortunately, I am not convinced, as I'm typing this out from a country that outperforms yours in every aspect (except for child genital mutilation, no doubt).
>>24842988>I'm talking about the muslim middle eastern countries, which are virtually all Arab. oh my fucking god lol. not all ARABS are muslims you idiot and almost none of them are ISLAMISTS>Lol, where's the jihad on Israel? Muslims were very eager to chop heads in Syria and Iraq in the 2010s but have been awfully quiet ever since. Seemingly, they know what hand not to bite.if you can't tell the difference between the various different groups in the middle east that's on you lol>My people aren't the one grinding for the number 1 spot in every crime statistic, that would be muslims (the superior civilisation).yeah because you degenerates make crimes like sodomy legal>Why do you need gibs if you have oil? oops..?how is it "gibs" if it's obviously used in exchange for something, such as the steady uninterrupted flow of oil? maybe OPEC should turn off the taps for a bit so you remember who's really in charge lol>>24843003what is the point of arguing with someone who is ignorant and wishes to remain so?
>>24843008>you see, two men having sex is actually as bad as blowing up an airport or shooting up a concertI'm well aware in the superior society, people get placed in pits and pelted with stones for perceived moral transgressions, but perhaps you should consider not killing your citizenry over autistic reasons.>how is it "gibs" if it's obviously used in exchange for something, such as the steady uninterrupted flow of oil? maybe OPEC should turn off the taps for a bit so you remember who's really in charge lolMy point was that why would your country need developmental aid if it has money pouring out of the ground? Why do the shitholes (which now apparently are in charge! So no more talk about colonisation and muh west) remain shitholes?Please answer this question or get called a retard in advance.
>Seriously thinking Islamism is a viable ideology >In 2025The coming hegemon is a Marxist-Leninist one. All religions are going to be ground into dust, Islam foremost among them.
>>24843030You can't possibly believe a religion made for retarded people is going to stop existing unless all the retards are culled first?
>>24843027>I'm well aware in the superior society, people get placed in pits and pelted with stones for perceived moral transgressions, but perhaps you should consider not killing your citizenry over autistic reasons.YOU HAVE REVEALED YOURSELF AS A SODOMITE!!! LMAO!!!>My point was that why would your country need developmental aid if it has money pouring out of the ground? "why do countries like money" is a hell of a thing to say>Why do the shitholes (which now apparently are in charge! So no more talk about colonisation and muh west) remain shitholes?western backed dictators and monarchs act against the interests of the people and the whole global financial system is rigged>>24843030marxism does nothing but force bourgeois societies to be even gayer and more liberal
>>24843036>YOU HAVE REVEALED YOURSELF AS A SODOMITE!!! LMAO!!!Hmm yes, islamic thinking in all its splendour.
>>24843039counterpoint: you're a sodomite
>>24843035Look at it this way: in 2002, the Saudis were so devoted to Islam they chose to let their daughters burn in a building rather than flee to an open space with covering themselves. Now Saudi women attend concerts, work, etc. Islam, while of course very strong in Saudi, has been weakened, its instructions for how a society should run ignored. Why? The impact of capitalism and the material forces it unleashed. All around the world this is happening. Islam as a societal force is being chipped away, reshaped, eroded. It is a slow and painful process with many setbacks, yes. So was the defeat of Christianity and Confucianism, and now the secular forces of modernity triumph in Europe and China.
>>24843070Sure, but at the same time European capitals are filled with rather odd creatures that have no will to adapt the road you just laid out.
>>24843080You give them more credit than they deserve, but for the sake of argument let’s say the Muslim migrants and their descendants conquer Europe, force everyone to become Muslim, and establish a theocracy. Well, what then? The same forces at work elsewhere in the world will be at force in this version of Europe. The pressures of modernity will still be there, still eroding the traditional family, the social bonds that make up a religion, traditional gender relations, etc. This caliphate will lack the material base that makes for a stable theocracy. It will erode, make concessions, and one day crumble.This isn’t just theory. Look at Iran. A Muslim theocracy, of course. And yet it is far more progressive today than it was in the Shah’s time, with more women in the workforce, education, etc. More people in Iran today are irreligious than there were when the theocracy was established. None of this came cheaply. Things like freedom from the mark of slavery that is the hijab came at a cost, and people like that woman martyred a few years back paid the price. But now in Tehran women walk around with uncovered heads.The theocrats cannot win. They can only ever slow down the rate of their defeat.
>>2484303915% of gays have AIDS. Even more in poorer countries.
>>24842922They want to ally with Israel against more foreign threats like Iran, or even Turkey (such as in WW1).The only reason to argue Israel is our main antagonist (rightfully), is because they control Europe and America. Which is more of a sore point for you than for us.
>>24843284isis does. the monarchies and arab nationalist dictatorships are straightforward western puppets
>>24840617Dunno, I only read through the foreword and stuff of the new translation Ask me again after I finish the book myself
>>24840668For this Halloween go see a video of a high-school sock hop in Greeley, CO in the 50s
>>24843405i've already read "the america i have seen" so that would be redundant
I bought my copy.
>>24842903Bodied that freak
>>24840682Well enlight us then
>>24840617The book is terrible. From a writing standpoint. It really has nothing to offer beyond incredibly belabored melodrama and its theme. Plus all of the content reads like the author sucking his own dick.>>24842135I don't know, the Russian General's bit was written in the same way. The lack of care put into any of the other characterizations makes me believe it was not intentional. Their opposition seems, to me, meant to be perceived as a series of tragic last stands of those of The Race that refuse to kill themselves. Very sad, very lachrimose, race mixing becomes mandatory, South Africa becomes majority black (which, apparently unbeknownst to Raspail, it already was), woe is me. Very normal Raped Right stuff.
>>24843130>with more women in the workforce, education, etcthese are not haram
Problem is assimilation. If everybody assimilates, there'd be no issues
>>24843284>allying with jews is haram but we are fighting other muslims so it’s okay :)Ummah suddenly not so strong anymore? It's you who has beef with Israel since its inception. Were muslim countries relevant on the world stage (they are not) jews would work to infiltrate them to the same extent as they did in the West. Your countries, however, are utterly irrelevant and toothless as seen by Israel bombing Qatar with impunity, or an entire supply chain of pagers being infiltrated, or your noble leaders cucking to israel while their poorfag population mutters that it’s 4D chess.
>>24843529read the post above that
>>24843634Israel turned Lebanon Muslim and it only has pager attacks in the end to show for it?The Jewish majority is also dsappearing as a race in America due to miscegenation with goyim, holocausted by its own fear of living in Israel nsxt to Arabs.
