>To have committed every crime but that of being a father...
>>24841445antinatalism is murder. pronatalism only manslaughter.
>>24841445>Al-Ma'arri's self-composed epitaph, on his tomb, states (in regard to life and being born): "This is my father's crime against me, which I myself committed against none."
>>24841522Robert Graves once said you're responsible for your birth and for everything you've done in your life. He put himself wholly responsible. For choosing your parents, for choosing your genes, for everything. Everything that has happened since. You shouldn't blame anybody (or praise anybody) for it.
>>24841535Robert Graves was a massive retard
We must imagine Nietzsche happy
>>24841568I guess I could say the same about this Alan Ma'arri chap.
>>24841535>Robert Graves once said you're responsible for your birth and for everything you've done in your life.Seems like a senseless proposition. Perhaps you mean he said you ought to live as if you are responsible for your birth? That would make more sense
>>24841535I believe there is a chance this is true. If my body or life circumstance were slightly different, maybe my consciousness wouldn't exist, I would be dead and there would only be a very similar person alive. In a sense my consciousness wanted this.
>>24841697Nah, this doesn't make sense after all.
>>24841445Cioran also said that he wants to kill people by smash their heads into the wall. He is not same as an average antinatalist roastie on plebbit bitching about consent of the unborn.
>>24841702>it just doesn't bro, trust meRead the Lankavatara sutra
>>24841445Crazy that he lived so long
>>24841584No, you couldn't, because the central observation of the thread is fundamentally correct. I'm suspicious of the exact language of the Robert Graves thing, at this point.As for Al-Ma'arri, I am pleased that he managed to live during the early muslim period, be right within an extremely hostile environment, and espouse truth which has survived extant to the present day.
>>24842599>read jeet shitnah I’m good bro
>>24842626He had a gf who actually loved him, somehow, and he had an active social life.>>24841745True. The great thing about reading Cioran in chronological order is that he actually seems to get angrier and have more violent outburst-type thoughts in his 50s and 60s, contrary to how older men tend to mellow out. But by the point of the last two works (Anathemas and Admirations), he's gotten tired.
>>24842895Better than reading autistic romanian retards.
>>24842895>can’t tell jeets apartStop larping as one of us and get off this site to shiddit
>>24842900>He had a gf who actually loved him, somehow, and he had an active social life.Because Cioran was handsome with thick hairs. But he was a manlet which added to his frustration. What do you think?
>>24843446>Because Cioran was handsome with thick hairs. But he was a manlet which added to his frustration.literally me.
>>24841522>This is my father's crime against me, which I myself committed against none.Beautiful
>>24843235Different shades of the same poo, pajeet.
Reminder that anti-natalists are likely to be mentally ill and have a personality disorder
>>24847508This doesn't mean that anti-natalist arguments can be dismissed solely due to this fact (inb4 crying about ad hom); it does however add context to why autists make these threads and are completely unable to understand why they are wrong. It also has direct implications regarding Benatar's quality of life argument (i.e. anti-natalists are stuck in a rigid ideological system as a cope for to sustain their defective worldview).Say you're designing a logo and you want to market test for the most appealing shade of red. Would you want most of those in your sample population to suffer from protanopia?
>>24847508So do you
>>24847508Anti-natalists are at a complete poverty when it comes to weighing quality of life. Their defective nature simply precludes them from accepting any rationalization outside of their own self-indoctrination. They don't necessarily mean to be disingenuous because such is simply written into their nature.Also note that the more you talk to them the more you'll realize a sick fascination with harm, violence, and death. These people don't want to reduce harm, they want to justify their resentment and spread their misery.