Which year would you cut it off at?I am thinking 2002, aka people who graduated high school before covid really took over
i think by short she means she can explain iti think by line she means the basis of a plane
and yeah the clocks there are just a gay thing
>>24848601i'm 2004 and i read more than you
Who cares, most people are retarded
>>24848672Yeah but most of what you read is slop so it doesn't really count
>>24848672if you're 2004 years old you can scarcely call yourself gen z, more like gen bc
>>24848672you put more feces lit in your head instead of just reading few good pieces over and over?
>>24848672Why can't you guys capitalize?
>>24849088capitalize upon what?
isn't that 12-15 sentences? or did the standard change
>>24849412I was taught 5 sentences per paragraph
Illiterate and as bad with technology as boomers, if not worse. Owari da.
>>24848672you a real nigga
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>>24848601i think people born in the 80s are likely the last literate group on the planet
>>24849071Very good.
>>24848601add 2003 you fucking retard
>>24849080no. i'm '00 and we are literally retarded. we are mentally impaired, didn't develop properly. most of us are not even really literate. you ever had to do peer criticism in uni? holy shit. people like to meme it, but the west is actually over. we won't be able to carry it, we're just too stupid and incompetent. i see this pic and that quote attributed to ancient greeks complaining about the youth posted all the time, and i think that either we are living in a period of truly exceptional decline, or the bitter old fucks were right all along and it has been 2500 years of marked degeneration between each successive generation, because we (and from what i can see, the next gen too) just don't compare to those who came before us. we are barely human. and this is not just abstract feelings of inferiority before the old greats, no, this is something you struggle with in everyday life. sure, there will still be artists and there will still be geniuses, but those people will necessarily be outsiders, to a much greater extent than ever before, because normal, mainstream society simply won't be able to produce anything worthwhile at all anymore.
>>24848601What can we do to fix this? How do we ensure this doesn't happen with the next generation? Should we teach? Or is it futile?
>>24852147No offense, but if you perceive yourself as rather stupid, why would anyone (and for that matter, yourself) trust your view of things? Every generation reveres the old masters and fears what's to come, and with good reason. I'm not saying this to flatten down all contemporary feelings of uniqueness in a pessimistic way, because of course things change and some get better as others get much worse. It's always been the same fight, though. If there's no winning, then there's no losing, either. What you're describing, this contradiction, your own opposition to stupidity, your disdain of the current world, is part of what creates the future.
>>2485214796 and have the same feelings. I remember preinternet live and it really is worrying. I can't imagine problems iPad kids will face when they enter adulthood. I see that with myself and I didn't have a smartphone until the end of highschool.
>>24848601I am a first year zoomer with a masters and a 100+ manuscript draft in political philosophy. Pity every zoomer born in time to get quick-scoped one shotted by IPads when still toddlers.
>>24848672You can't be a year
>>24852147>the bitter old fucks were right all along and it has been 2500 years of marked degeneration between each successive generationCompletely asinine sentiment. There is no one, literally no one, who would argue that the 9th century produced greater works or had a more intelligent body of people than the 19th century.We still produce great things, it’s just that time and critical opinion hasn’t sifted through the slop to find the diamonds in the rough yet. Time always acts as a great sieve to filter out the crap from earlier ages.
Nah, she's got a point. I was born in 1990 and this irritated me in school too. An hour is not enough time to write a well-thought out and edited essay.It was obvious that this was the kind of retarded busy work teachers came up with when they got drunk last night and didn't have a lesson plan for the next day.
>>24852827yea fr fr
>>24848672You will never own a home or build generational wealth :)
>>24852806that's a fair outside perspective, but i think we all trust in our personal experience, unless we have very good reason to believe it is an exception to the general state of things. of course it's possible this is the same thing that's always been, but i feel totally convinced that it's worse this time.>>24852811yeah. i've got younger siblings and they really got hit hard by the ipads. even in school, they used ipads. it's discomforting.>>24852826fine. we'll see, i guess. or, well, -we- won't, but it will be seen, eventually.
>>24848601It depends on the parents. My son is 12 years old and reads at an 11th grade level. While his class is reading the simplistic shit like Where the Red Fern Grows, he's already plowed through most of HG Wells and Jules Verne. I'm really glad he got his love for reading from me as opposed to my wife, who wouldn't even read a restaurant menu unless you pointed a gun to her head.
>>24852971I suggested the opposite because I also tend to believe what you wrote down, but it's so easy to believe and it seems so prevalent throughout history, I think it needs some kind of critical lens. Plus, it makes one feel good for considering this issue and separating yourself from the ones who don't, even if it's a critique from the inside, as it should be.So what if both are true? If you combine "things are getting worse" with "it's always been like this," you arrive at: Things have always been getting worse. Weigh this against the progress of the world. The better it can get, the worse it can get, too. I think by critiquing this system we assume our place as part of it, the negative component that it always needs to progress. No contradiction means no change.
>>24852147'98 zoomer here. I think the younger generations have always been stupid. Young people are stupid. That's just a fact of life. But I think since the industrial revolution, and especially since the advent of the internet society has shifted from one of industry, where the average person had to actually create something in order to survive, to one of rampant consumerism. I think it will take a bit for society to figure out how to properly operate with all this new technology
>>24852147>you ever had to do peer criticism in uni? holy shit. people like to meme it, but the west is actually over. we won't be able to carry it, we're just too stupid and incompetent.I’m in my mid 20s here, born around the turn of the millennium, and, sadly, yes.I did 2 years undergrad somewhere, had a bit of a breakdown and took off to work a menial job and save some money while deciding what to do next, then went back, transferring to another college as a slightly older student than the average undergrads, sometime within the past few years to finish my bachelor’s. Did a humanities degree with English as a minor so lots of English classes, lots of paper-writing and a big part of it was peer review of other students’ essays; also online private forum posts to be made throughout the semester in response to readings, and commonly a requirement that you make X amount of responses to other students’ responses over the semester.I have other character flaws and vices, but for some reason using AI to do my work never appealed to me. I was at least honest enough for that. So it was both sad and mindblowing to see how many other kids here were using (obvious) ChatGPT productions for their responses, sometimes even in their essays. There’s a real qualitative difference here and genuine revolution, the youth can now use AI to supercharge their stupidity and do their classwork for them. Some professors are in shambles about, upset and angry or just in despair at it. And there’s studies coming out showing people who over-rely on AI (or more specifically LLMs like ChatGPT) to do their reading, writing, and thinking for them literally make themselves stupider. Parts of their brain responsible for reading, writing, critical thinking in general almost literally begin to atrophy. This is real, it’s a qualitative massive difference from former worries of “TV rotting people’s brains,” “the Internet rotting people’s brains” (and I’d note, they still might actually do that to some extent), it’s not just “Old man yelling at clouds” or an instance of>LOL, they’ve been saying “kids these days are degenerating compared to their ancestors” since Ancient Greek times, even since Sumer,No, there’s an actual difference here, and it wouldn’t do well to stick your head in the sand about it. Here’s where my Zoomerism is going to come out, I’m going to say I think it’s a psychologically-cücked mindset to scoff it off.
>>24853082Maan. I have same exact sentiment. I finished my masters just now at 29. I was surrounded by lots of smart younger folks, so maybe there's hope, but I definitely were in camp that didn't use it much. It's nice for quick formula to latex translation, but generally using those tools feels like a discussion with a retard. Literary style is dying because of it and I'm not happy about it.
'01 zoomchad here. You are all equally retarded. I am the only intelligent being alive.
>>24852862millenials are so fucking bitter lmaoyou've had decades to cope
>>24848672Look at the seethe this post generated.
>>2485214799 here. All of you are being myopic. Majority of humans have always been retarded. The only thing thats new is that we can see every villages' idiots 24/7. Other than that. Eh
>>24853208i'm studying law at a good school in the capital. i'm not despairing over what i overheard at the bar or read on twitter, but over the people who are supposedly going to work to uphold our institutions and our social order.
