Wechat, unironically. You won't find a more mind controlled population elsewhere

>>24855955
微信,抖音,微博,美团,淘宝,京东 and shitty taoist fanfictions where they are the magical hero.

>>24856006
>You won't find a more mind controlled population elsewhere
What about amerimutts or ziggers?

>>24856038
I stand for what I've said.

>>24856006
Like 99% of normalfaggot for whom internet is Facebook, google. twitter, Instagram and YouTube?

>>24855955
Nothing. Its illegal there.

>>24856006
>You won't find a more mind controlled population
*unified and effectively led, you mean.

>>24855955
Probably something similar to the Japanese but even worse

>>24855955
reverend insanity

>>24855955
The ones that speak another language read literature in that language.

>>24856008
Those are the cultivation ones, right?

I've heard the word, but have never bothered into actually looking up what they are, exactly.

>>24855955
STOP TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE CHINESE MIND if you are a westerner, there is only one way to understand the chinaman, and that is by fucking him, or his women, you will learn more in the way she groans and flat pancake butt moves during a sodomization session, or how he chainsmokes with his face away, butt open on the chair, ashamed of bad habits, than you will ever from their LIT

The Little Red Book

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>>24855955
YELLOW PERIL
chink spies are scraping the internet to read everything

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>>24856640
xiao hong shu!

>>24856795
>+100 palantir points

>>24855955
kung pao brocorri beef orange chicken

>>24855955
Most likely anti-American sentiment which was the current view of modern era.

"the subplot: what china is reading and why" wull tell u

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They read Shakespeare and Jorjor Well

>>24856364
Is this Wuxia?

>>24855955
Are there Chinese sitcoms with English subtitles?
I'm curious to know how a real Chinaman lives, or at least how they pretend they live.
You can learn all about real America (or at least some parts of it) by watching The Simpsons, Friends, and Seinfeld, or about England by watching Monty Python. But what do the Chinamen do? What is their life like? Any recommendations?
It has to be comedy, as it's way more genuine and similar to daily life.

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>>24855955
Books approved of by the ccp

>>24856070
>>24856038
you do not understand how Chinese people are. Truth before face, individualism, honor, creativity, these are not things the chink values. In China shutting up and conforming to what is collectively agreed upon to be good and normal no matter what and doing your role is seen as a moral good. Americans are the opposite. They believe and do whatever they want to and if someone else doesn’t like it they can go to hell. You see a corrupted form of this even in the hive minded leftists. You people don’t know what I real normie looks like anthropologically. Some oriental peasant that accepts being crushed by the collective tyranny of family, religion, and state. Is Collectivist, shame driven, and worships tradition mindlessly. That’s what a real normie looks like.

Lengthy Kafkaesque bureaucratic documents.

>>24856006
So Americans just with a different app...

>>24856818
False equivalence. In the US, one can rage against Palantir all they like, nothing will happen to them. In China you’d be disappeared for criticizing the government.

>>24855955
They read a lot of poetry, stuff like art history etc, then theres all the period drama slop and hanfu cultivation slop.
Can't forget about all the classics like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West etc etc.

>>24859157
Just go to youtube and search popular chinese dramas. Stuff from the 90s/00s probably don't have english subs but there is an endless stream of 2020s dramas with english subs.
Day to day life as depicted in tv dramas is similar to japanese or korean except they aren't as work obsessed and they like to spend more time in restaurants.

>>24859157
I'd reccomend Meteor Garden actually. That's a comfy chinga TV drama from 2001.

>>24855955
I just got finished traveling through China for ten days. Tbh from what I could see China is a 100 times more orderly and well put together than the US and many other western countries. The cities are clean and organized, public transportation is easy to navigate and covers a wide area. I never felt unsafe, most of the food was delicious, and service workers were friendly and willing to help when I needed it. Of course I know China has its problems but coming from an Amerimutt perspective it made me feel like the US is closer to a third world than a developed country.

Also interestingly enough I could browse 4chan there without a problem but I couldn't post which means a bunch of chinks could be silently monitoring this very thread.

>>24859304
it honestly looks like a nice country with decent people. I'd take their iron fist of a government if it meant some civility and no niggers. They're right to make it 99% Han.

>>24859304
>>24859308
Step outside of the bugman cities next time, or learn Chinese and say something even slightly not pro-CCP, then tell me America is third world.

>>24859308
It's pretty cool when I was studying there.

I think a huge difference between there and America is Chinese girls will cover their faces and arms, even on hot summer days, because their culture values white skin.

>>24859322
I actually met a couple of guys from a small northern city and they told me how most Chinese use VPNs to access the internet. They were fairly critical of the CCP and were fascinated by America.

>>24859254
That's Taiwanese

>>24859304
We are

>>24859157
Idk but they have made some serious kino like Chungking Express. One of the best movies I've seen.

>>24859177
Americans have face culture. They're just not cognizant of it. In fact, face is a product of modern society. The Chinese achieved a sort of social modernity 2 thousand years ago. Our society, is converging towards that face-based sense of self. Look at our elites, they feel no guilt. Look at the everyman, who still feels guilt over their actions? As long as the guilt is sufficiently abstracted, we just blame it on capitalism and absolve ourselves of any responsibility. As the technology progresses, all guilt will be abstracted away to the point that the only motivator remaining will be shame and only when one gets caught

>>24855955
(not) Reverend Insanity

>>24855955
Apparently they make them read a shitload of classical poems and stuff in school

>>24858433
Xianxia.
Wuxia = martial heroes = low(ish) fantasy based in martial artists in semi-historical china
Xianxia = immortal heroes = high fantasy taoist wizards do crazy shit and every number is 10x bigger than it needs to be for some reason

It’s important (and relevant to RI) to note that “immortal” or “xian” doesn’t necessarily mean someone that lives forever.

>>24859389
That was Hong Kong, big, big, difference at that time. Hong Kong were what would happen if all Chinese were emancipated from their Communist tyrants and taught how to live according to a Western system of rule. It worked great, Hong Kong was free, they made great art and it was cool. We (britbongs) should never, ever, have given it back. It also would have been useful now that China is going to be a great enemy in the decades to come.

>>24855955
from what I saw in the bookstores, mostly nonfiction, business-related self-help type stuff. Tons of books about current events and society, especially dealing with AI. Most bookstores also had a huge health section, and a philosophy corner. Surprisings amounts of translated manga.

From the chinese people I know: shitty webnovels.

>>24859177
>Truth before face, individualism, honor, creativity, these are not things the chink values.
Outside of Confucian faggot shit there is plenty of vitality in Chinese culture. Read The Complete Works of Zhuangzi.

I can also meme Americans by saying that they are Patriotic burger munching retards or highrise corporate wagie drones who work at their farms for 14 hours every day and anything less than they consider as not manly. In fact this was my view of Americans before 4chan. Similar I use to think that Chinese were bug drones before reading books like that.

>>24855955
journey to the west,
water margin
and three kingdoms
1000 times

Westerners are the only group that values intellectualism for its own sake. You will never find a Chinaman working at a gas station and reading Joyce or Heidegger for fun, nor a rich Chinaman for that matter. 100%, rational hedonism/wealth accumulation is all they care about.

>>24859967
And thank God for us Westerners, us heirs to Greece and Rome, who still value art and wisdom for its own sake.

Imagine a world with only fat, Amerimutts stuffing their faces with pizza and cola clapping at Marvel movies, or bugmen Chinese thinking of only luxury brands. How terrible a place the world would be.

>>24855955
I was there recently and the book stores seemed pretty normal aside from the fact many all of them prominently display Chairman Xi's books (or I assume they are since they have his face on them). Kind of funny since it feels like something you'd put into a joke about China

They have a huge web novel scene. Culturally it's as big as manga is to Japan.

>>24855955
Who cares what bug people read.

>>24859978
Cry all you like, you know I spoke truth.

>>24860030
Basic reading comprehension fail?

I agreed with you. Westerners are the only one who value intelligence and creativity for its own sake in this world: unlike fat Amerimutts and bugmen Chinks.

>>24859967
Proof?

>>24859843
Defending Hong Kong from Chinese invasion was impossible. It would have been a larger Goa. Brits had no choice but to hand it over (that said a British Hong Kong would have been kino).

>>24860033
Basic writing fail, more like it. Retarded people struggle especially with theory of mind, this is why they can’t understand sarcasm, have low empathy, and write/speak as if other people exist inside their heads.

>>24859188
If you really think it is remotely similar you are very sheltered. China is unapologetically 1984. You can't have the wrong thoughts, you can't read what you want. Everything is evaluated, punished and filtered by the Party, unironically and without exaggeration. They make the UK surveillance system look like a joke.

>>24859967
I want /pol/tards to leave

>>24859304
This is my experience as well. I went excepting something low-tech, cold, and chaotic but left with a sense of embarrassment for my home country. I visited a "small" city and everyone was driving new electric car, the service was magnitudes better than the US (and no tipping), and, mostly importantly, safe. The hardest pill to swallow: it appeared more capitalistic. For instance, the malls had shops that were, I'd wager, mostly privately own -- meaning not populated with the same stale 5-10 big chain brands. You can tell there was more pride in the business indicated by its cleanliness and general attitude.

The only thing that didn’t sit right with me was their draconian education system. As you probably know, their rote system of learning is crushing and tries pigeonhole young minds into professions that might be dead-end or ill-fitting based solely on educational performance.

Either way, anyone who thinks it's some oppressive shithole should take a visit. It puts most US cities to shame and will elicit a sense of anger when you realize how poor our leadership has been for last 3 decades.

that looks like the shittiest city ever

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China is very funny because at the same time they have great restrictions for internet access, books are completely uncensored. It's almost like they don't care what educated people think and only care about what the plebs are thinking.
Talking to Chinese people is also something very different from talking to Americans and Europeans. Chinese people have a much better memory; like, they will tell you they don't like America because of the Belgrade bombing of the Chinese embassy, or something like that. Meanwhile, an American will tell you they don't like China because of something that happened last month. Either it is because Trump said so or Taiwan news.
Answering OP, I looked up, and those are the best-selling books in China in August.

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They read a lot of history and Gabriel Garcia Marquez

>>24855955
Marx

They're into Kundera, I hear. A native author who is consistently popular is Eileen Chang.

>>24860584
>It's almost like they don't care what educated people think and only care about what the plebs are thinking.
Incredibly based. They deserve all the victories that theyre about to get.

>>24859322
I'd give my right to critique the government if it meant a better life. Unless all you talk about is politics—who cares?

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>>24859322
america is a shithole lol

>>24860106
>China is unapologetically 1984. You can't have the wrong thoughts, you can't read what you want. Everything is evaluated, punished and filtered by the Party, unironically and without exaggeration.
The internet filters they have are pretty crazy. It has been my impression that you're actively listened to over the phone or voice chat and I assume that it is always the case, but a lot of it is automated, so you have this A.I. surveillance state. People think you're just making these stories up but it's actually true, and the lesson that comes from this is to be careful discussing sensitive subjects (or political subjects) through a phone or your computer microphone if it's routing through China.

>>24860824
Chinese propaganda and censorship is cringe, in your face, and uses brute force to overwhelm. It's like a sledgehammer. You don't need to be intelligent and experienced to spot it, they are very unsophisticated. You fear the authorities coming after you, so you self censor, unlike in the West where they make you self censor for fear of your social life imploding and being made a pariah. But when the government has that amount of power, there's no real controlling what it's going to do, and the amount of repression and censorship can take on highly irrational forms where even discussing things in a neutral fashion (or even praising certain things) is cracked down on because the government doesn't want people talking about it AT ALL (like talking about Xi Jinping on the internet).

This happens frequently in China. I'm not talking about Tiananmen Square, it's all kinds of random stuff and you don't know what the triggers are, and they're not necessarily political or what you might assume are political subjects. As a subsection of that, it's also a big nuisance for professors, especially if they're doing virtual classes and everything they're saying is being run through an algorithm which can yeet them off the Chinese internet and block them for all kinds of absurd reasons (literally in the middle of the lecture), and they get their connection restored but it takes some effort and it's all highly embarrassing to the professor's Chinese counterparts, and they agree not to mention it for face-saving reasons.

>>24860824
you have to remember polcels have made maga their entire personality

>>24861015
Good post—consider my feelings balanced. What I like about China is the sense of community that the US lacks. People exercising in the parks, the food in the streets, the friendly people. I live outside both, anyway, in a really particularly antisocial schizoid part of the world so it appeals specially appeals to my sensibilities.

>>24859967
>You will never find a Chinaman working at a gas station and reading Joyce or Heidegger for fun, nor a rich Chinaman for that matter.
How is that different from Americans?

>>24860584
Books are heavily censored and they can censor whatever they want. What are you even on about. Even in Hong Kong they started censoring books.
From the top of my head I know that faggot Picketty had his book banned because it talked about china in a negative light and he refused to censor it to sell in china.
They also don't have a good memory, they are bombarded with propaganda every day.

>>24861015
Who fucking cares. Seriously. Everyone in the west is being surveilled too, our metadata is collected and the secret services all have profiles of us.
It's not hard to just shut the fuck up. Your opinion means jack shit anyway, and you're much better off helping your individual community than thinking you're gonna take down the deep state or some other narcissistic fantasy
The west is in a state of deep decline, everyones minds utterly fucked by 5th generation warfare, and there is no future. China on the other hand is ready for 10, 15, 20 years ahead, and they get shit done, instead of being bogged down by a beurocracy of greedy boomers who'd rather watch the world burn than give up their wealth.

This whole muh china narrative is so out of date. Grow up. You were told they were on the brink of collapse and guess what, theyre still going. Admit that theyre simply better, accept defeat and realise its time we learn from them. People are retarded, a government with an iron fist just works.

>>24861015
Do people not rebel? There has to be some sort of youth counterculture.

>>24861318
You have to have a reason to rebel. Just having to avoid certain topics online isn't exactly an incentive to uproot your whole life.

>>24861048
China is a very individualistic society, ironically. There is no sense of community because your "community members" will lie and stab you in the back if it means gaining anything out of that. I was left speechless when they would elbow me (and each other) to get from point A to B or to look at something I was waiting in line for. I had to make peace with pushing and shoving old people away because they would try to elbow me out of the metro cart.
You ever saw a video of someone getting assaulted or dying on the street and the whole mob just moves on without even looking? Happens because it is common to get blackmailed by the injured person threatening to say you were responsible if you happen to help them.

You would be just existing outside talking to snakes.

>>24861327
>Just having to avoid certain topics online isn't exactly an incentive to uproot your whole life.
That was literally the reason Trump rose to power and the Republican Party was entirely reformed into what it is today.

>>24861331
>China is a very individualistic society, ironically.
Anons in this thread are describing how the central government controls all media and the topic of conversation. How much more collectivist can you get?

>>24861333
I'd much rather be told by the government that I can't shittalk the president than by a bunch of trannies that I can't talk about anything regarding anyone but myself in a perojative tone desu

>>24861338
Being controlled and told what to do is not collectivism, it is tyranny. And no, living to prop up and increase the CCP's power is not collectivism either.

>>24861309
You are just stupid and clueless. You can write that post about the US or the west but a chinese can't write that on china about china.

>>24861341
You can't talk shit about the president. You also can't criticize the mayor who refuses to pave the road in front of your home. You also can't say a word about how the basedbean purchase restrictions made your company go under because a billionaire in the other side of the world doesn't like Winnie the poh.
Btw you also can't say tai chi or some other traditional dance is not a reliable self defense martial art, that would be unpatriotic.
You can't move from your assigned area, can't study outside your designated schools or go to a good hospital because the government controls supply and demand for everything. Every option in your area is shit? Too bad the permit to move was denied. Also just so happened that the best services are concentrated at cities and neighborhoods where high CCP members live but that's just a coincidence and of course no one can say anything otherwise.
And the list goes on.

>>24861341
>I'd much rather be told by the government that I can't shittalk the president than by a bunch of trannies that I can't talk about anything regarding anyone but myself
Do the trannies have the power to incarcerate you and your family? to take away your passport, and fine you large amounts of money? Your ambiguous use of the word "told" tells me you know nothing of authoritarians.

>>24861318
the only times the chinese people ever rebel is when famine occurs and government corruption goes from “i will embezzle 30% of your paycheck with nonsense taxes” to “i am going to not only take 90% of your income but also force you to pay up 100% of your savings in taxes so that the government can build some infrastructure, also all the males in your family have been conscripted to dig a canal and you need to bring your own food (that you don’t have).”

even in outrageous conditions like above it has historically taken chinks multiple months to even a year of this shit happening before they revolt.

>>24861395
>move from assigned area
There is no such thing lmao. People can move anywhere they want whenever they want. There's a reason why real estate in tier 1 cities is so expensive, the demand is driven by people from outside of the city wanting to move into the city so they can get the fabled Shanghai or Beijing ID card.
In fact there is even a massive flight of youth from the tier 1/2 cities to smaller cities within Yunnan etc because it's cheaper and a more relaxing lifestyle.

Where do Americans even get this idiotic ideas from? Talk about victims of propaganda...

>>24861395
And yes people can criticise members of government. There are scandals all the time where it's found an official is acting in a manner that could be corrupt and social media goes into a frenzy about it.
For example earlier this year there was a happening where some to-be actress took photos of herself wearing expensive jewellery at her college graduation and said they were her mothers. Social media went into detective mode and discovered her parents were mid-level government workers earning a decent salary but nowhere near enough to afford jewellery in the range of 200k+ USD. The discussions of potential corruption went on for months.

Government workers and officials are most definitely allowed to be held accountable by the public.

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>>24861331
>China is a very individualistic society, ironically. There is no sense of community because your "community members" will lie and stab you in the back if it means gaining anything out of that ... You ever saw a video of someone getting assaulted or dying on the street and the whole mob just moves on without even looking? Happens because it is common to get blackmailed by the injured person threatening to say you were responsible if you happen to help them.
This too. Actually China is probably more individualistic than Western countries. I think the government likes having a big state at the top and then individuals who are even more isolated and atomized but are left alone to work / consume / watch video / eat chip / jerk off provided they don't get in the way. The government doesn't like "middlemen" which includes religious groups or any bottom-up community organizations. You might call those "mediating institutions" in political science. For example you'll run across some socially conservative types that admire China because they crack down on LGBT organizations or Pride parades. But in fact the largest gay dating app in the world is Chinese, so perhaps that is a reflection of social conservatism, but I'm pretty sure it's because they prefer that to be a private, individual consumption thing rather than a "community" or collective identity which goes for ANY horizontal bonds that could compete with the state. For the socially conservative types around here, that goes for religious organizations as well. At any rate it's an extremely cutthroat kind of environment where an unfathomably large population is competing for limited opportunities and resources, and you're otherwise on your own.

That's why people won't come to your aid if you're hurt. It's because they're afraid you might scam them. You can never be too careful. It could be a trap. Think about that mentality pervading the society. Other than perhaps your immediate family.

>>24862034
Everyone in here would benefit from reading Etienne Balazs. Or maybe not.

It's true that the Chinese state is an authoritarian beast that has its tentacles in LITERALLY everything, but it's been this way for thousands of years. That's what Confucianism is. I think Westerners have no real way to grapple with this mentally, because in our heads an authoritarian state is something like 1984 where the "overseers" or dictator or whatever actually gives a shit about what you think and feel and want to control it. The idea that an authoritarian state might not care about what you do in your home apparently never crossed our minds. The confucian state just wants to put everyone in a box for pragmatic reasons. If everyone sticks to their box, then Chinese society will survive.

I think this topic is actually pretty boring once you get acquainted with it. Far more interesting is the philosophical justification for why China is built like this but that's too much to get into here

>>24862080
>The idea that an authoritarian state might not care about what you do in your home apparently never crossed our minds.
^ I also want to point out that this is what keeps China from accomplishing anything historically. Whenever a peasant revolt happens, it's always a super passionate & religious thing because these are the 2 elements being suppressed the most in China. This is also why the Chinese are so fucking bad at war, because they're honestly some of the most apathetic people on earth. They really seek out nothing in life but personal comfort, and this is a value that's bred into them by the state.

>>24855955
It bothers me that despite such a large population, high literacy, wonderful bookstores, and a rich cultural tradition we really don’t get much Chinese literature in translation in the West, and the books we do get really don’t seem to have much of a cultural impact. I listened to Tyler Cowen’s interview with RF Kuang recently and he asked her why that might be. She says it’s because of “the dominance of English as a language of literary prestige” (19 minutes in)
https://youtu.be/0KXw4ZgRSyU

>>24855955
Schmitt and Strauss, just take a look at Liu Xiaofeng. Mix that with Han Feizi.

>>24859843
>We (britbongs) should never, ever, have given it back
lmao as if you had a choice, China mogs you hard

>>24861395
I'm >>24859337 and one of the dudes I was talking with over Wechat and he actively talked shit on the CCP

This post is a prime example to never take whatever bullshit you retards ramble about seriously

>>24856006
I can point to north america on a map tho

>>24855955
WNs where they all release their pent up emotions through reading about the extermination of Young Masters and their families, raping young beauties, and with novels set on Earth, the genocide of the Japanese and non-Han, why the Han race is superior, etc.

>>24862425
>She says it’s because of “the dominance of English as a language of literary prestige”
Stupid. English readers are obsessed with Japanese, Russian, French, Korean etc. novels

All these remarks about Chinese self-centered hedonism kinda put it into perspective why they traffic white women from local villages here. There's something existentially dreadful about being Asian, I think.
>t. Vladivostok anon

>>24856006
The United States

>>24862656
There are some ways in which a chinese style society is the ultimate failure state for western civilization. Like they've been living in the "You vill live in a pod, you vill eat ze bugs" meme for a few thousand years now.

>>24862648
I think Kuang might argue that that’s because French/Russian/Japanese/Korean creators care about getting their work translated into English so that they can be consumed by Westerners, but Chinese just don’t care (I’m doubtful about this because everyone loves money). They care about this because muh-Colonialism leaving a chip on their shoulder, hence “English as a language of literary prestige”.

Also that the other necessary parts required for publishing a book in a different language, like adequate translators, publishers willing to bet on non-English works in those languages, already exist for those other languages, but not for Chinese.

There’s also a chicken and egg problem. Works won’t get translated and published without an audience, but an audience cant exist without translated works.

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>Not a single mention of Qidian ITT
They mostly read webnovels these days, but they're all shit because they operate on a 'ticket' system where the writers get paid based on how fast they can output chapters rather than the actual quality of the work. Also, they don't actually get paid comfortably because every work over 100 views has 10 different places to read for free via piracy so the situation is pretty grim and draconian for writers. One of the best writers of actual literary merit just died recently at a ridiculously young age due to overwork, which isn't an uncommen occurrence.
The vibe and aesthetic is distinct from japanese or korean literature, there's a sort of passionate barbarism/sociopathy that's really flavorful and keeps me reading. Of course, a sense of 'moe' or asianic cultural behavioral aesthetic is preserved, but it's different in nuanced ways to the point where I wouldn't really call them the same.
>t. regularly uses chrome's browser TL function to read and download chinese literature

>>24859177
>hive minded leftists
As if Trump-tard conservatives are not literally braindead monkey hivemind retards lmfao