Does /lit/ like contemporary poetry?
>>24860466Femcels will never be human
>>24860466>Does /lit/ like contemporary poetry?No. And even if it was the case, OP, this thread is made for you to cry about the existance of women, because you are a whiny little bitch.That said,The most infamous plagiarizer herself, aliza grace.How can you not love her? she does have her fingers on the pulse of the instapoetry market after all. There's like only the female embodiment on annas archive (masterpiece in instapoetry, imho), the rest is almost completely purged off the internet.I was able to find another collection of hers, which I'm not so sure is the original version.
I became friends with some really weird girls over the years for some shitty reasons (mostly, I don't like to talk with normies, and my homophobia don't allow me to connect to men in a deep way I can with women)A few days ago one sent some of her poetry, and it went something like this:>my mom is like a bar of bad-tasting chocolate>and my dad is just the wrapping of a very nice chocolatePretty sure she think this is deep.
>>24860466>Does /lit/ like contemporary <whatever>?No. And for very good reasons.
If it's anonymous and guaranteed the author gets nothing out of it except expressing something.
People who liked that post dont appreciate poetry anywaySomething very odd has happened in the femaleosphere ever since the red pill went mainstream. women are horrified and traumatised at the thought most men are now somewhat aware of their twisted machiavellian nature. It was meant to be a secret only known to the female hivemind. Now that its out in the open theyve basically gone full on psychotic with all sorts of bizarre copes and delusions
>>24860466No.I don't like much older poetry, either.
>>24860649>Pretty sure she think this is deep.it is tho
>>24860466Much of what's now published as "poetry" is effectively artfully line-spaced prose, but poetry still exists, it's just published as sound recordings set to music rather than in print.
No.
>>24860649I like it in a silly level
>>24860649Women are stupid.
>>24860620>OP, this thread is made for you to cry about the existance of women, because you are a whiny little bitch.Not really. I just wanted to post shitty poetry so I can get replies from you guys and laugh. Don't just assume stupid shit about people, anon.
>>24862157>Don't just assume stupid shit about people, anon.Not really. I just wanted to post my opinion on anons posting shitty poetry so I can get replies from you OP and laugh. Don't just assume stupid shit about people, anon.
>>24860466Modern poetry doesn't like /LIT/ because it's just affirming the emotional feelings people want represented on the page. That changed from an audience interested in heroics, history, culture, interesting ideas to one of resentment. You made me feel bad, this poem confirms I am right.
>>24860466This isnt a poem so much as some bitch cryin
>>24862289misery loves company
I have very cool poems that are not published. What gives?
>>24862289She's NOT crying. She felt NOTHING. She LITERALLY doesn't even care. Get over yourself, incel narcissist manipulator.
>>24862344High level bitch comprehension.
>>24860466Poetry is for women and niggers.
>>24861764This is what happens every time I try to find modern poetry. This style should be called poetrylike or verselike or something. It bugs the hell out of me because I spend some creative effort actually matching syllables or vowels/consonants. Poems need to be fun to read aloud! Reading poetry in your head is pants-on-head retarded.But these losersjust type a sentenceand hit returnlike their poem is series of vapid text messaging messages
I fucked ChadI fucked BradI married TomI miss Chad
The central problem of women is that they think the world is "fair" and that "everybody can participate in everything." Men instinctively know that they are worthless until they acquire worth and ability in some sphere. You could ask a random 89 IQ latina "Do you want to speak at the UN about nuclear fusion propulsion" and she'd go "Sounds fun :DDD Yea :DDDD I like nucular :DDD" If you asked a thousand men who wish they could write poems "Do you want to write a poem right now", 950 would say "Who the fuck am I to write a poem, I'd probably suck," 40 would say "I do want to write poems but not right now, I need years and tons of work to get good at it," 9 would say "I'm working on it and it's constant pain and I have no idea whether I am terrible and should shoot myself in the head, because what is the point of doing something if you aren't going to be great?," and 1 would say "Yeah." If you ask a literal dead 22 year old Psychology student with no career plans "Do you want to be published in a cosmic poetry anthology alongside the ghosts of Goethe and Coleridge come back from the dead to write one last great world-historical poem" she'd go "Yea :DDD I write poem :DDDD Poem about what I ate for breakfast :DDD"
>>24860466only the /lit/ underdog, Hyperionhasn't posted in a while thoughbeit
I can’t get enough of it
>>24862798Most of my teachers through all levels of schooling were women repeating things from books they didn't understand. When this happens if students don't catch on early that their teachers are full of shit the teacher may completely undermine the students ability to learn the subject at all, he can be confused forever about math from being given just one retarded assignment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aywN5eFOys
>>24862821Humanity has been reduced to the level that things that should only be of interest to teenagers or things that are only a tiny part of a full life are now your entire life. People used to have all sorts of beliefs, faith, callings, quests, purposes, and now 40 year olds are trying to "date" perpetually and the "dating" is modelled on ancestral cultural memory of a 17 year old debutante being taken to the movies or the harvest fair by an 18 year old. No wonder everyone is going literally fucking insane. I sometimes think that "maladjusted" men who retreat into video games and obscure fandoms are one micron luckier than normies, because at least they get the SIMULATION of real things like being a hero or building something. At least they have some access, however dim, to memories of what it was like to be a real human. >>24862894You should read Sugg's Motherteacher, it's very hard to find and out of print but it's excellent.
>>24860466Poetry is awful in general. An act of purely self-serving masturbation.
>>24860466Shit like this is why that white dude could so easily LARP as a gay black dude to get published and win awards. Modern literati have engaged in such an insidious, malfeasant undermining of culture. It’s genuinely disgusting.
>>24862798>If you asked a thousand men who wish they could write poems "Do you want to write a poem right now", 950 would say "Who the fuck am I to write a poem, I'd probably suck,"Nah, they'd say it's fucking gay.
>>24862812who dat?
>>24862798But what if she didn't eat breakfast that morning?
>>24860466I love contemporary poetry threads on /lit/ because they always play out the exact same way>OP posts instapoetry, acting as if it's representative of contemporary poetry; OP does not read any kind of poetry from any era at all>Thread fills with anons rightfully scoffing at bad instapoetry>Most of these anons also do not read any kind of poetry from any era at all, and still think a poem must rhyme to be poetry>(if you point those anons to Walt Whitman they sperg out lol)>The ones who do read poetry have never read poetry more recent than TS Eliot, they believe poetry stopped sometime in the 30s>Someone points this out and anons get angry>It can't be that they don't know what they're talking about, it has to be that that person is wrong>They demand to see proof of good contemporary poetry>A good contemporary poem is posted, anons immediately attack it for laughable reasons>The majority of them will attack it because it doesn't rhyme, and poems must rhyme because they just have to okay etc>Some will screech something incoherent about trannies or da joo or brownoids or [insert /pol/ memeword] ruining poetry>Some will point and laugh at it but give no explanation beyond "the board says it's bad so it's bad">A few will attack it for equally nonsensical reasons, handwavingly alluding to "rhythm" or "music," but they won't be able to articulate their attack beyond "it has no rhythm" or similar >The anons who level these attacks don't know how to scan a line of poetry which makes it funnier. Most don't even know what "scansion" means>sometimes, one or two anons will like the poem; if it's a good thread, other anons who actually do read poetry seriously will share what they enjoy too, but this is quite rareAnd around and around /lit/ poem threads go. Cue seething along the lines of >oh yeah? oh yeah? well well well well well give an example of a good contemporary poem YOU CAN'T I WIN
>>24860649>my homophobia don't allow me to connect to men in a deep way I can with womenHow do I stop this?
>>24863056https://hyperionverus.substack.com/he's an anon who started writing on /lit/ and moved over to substack, last time he was in the poetry general he said he's doing working on a publishing deal or something and can't upload new stuff to the stack
>>24863097I like your poem
>>24862536Because the best writers of verse are writing song lyrics, as I said.
>let's see what the 21st ce reets are up tolmao
>>24862993What do you think caused this collective arrested development? This needs to be studied.
>>24862821>>24862993I'm 100% she's intentionally rage baiting for engagement. Picrel.
>>24863097See: >>24862998
>>24862798It's a perpetual childhood. Most of us as children thought that we were innately bound for success and could accomplish absolutely everything through work and talent alone, and a large part of adulthood is learning to accept the limitations you can't change and aim for more realistic goals. Men are forced to learn this the second they leave school (if not earlier) and have to enter the real world, because they soon realize that nobody else will help them if they fail. For women, there's no such pressure because they can always find a partner to support them even if they fail (not to mention that it's still relatively more socially-acceptable to live off your parents as a woman). This coddling leads to delusions of competence, you can still larp as a poet or an influencer or a "professional activist" and live off of others, while men have to give up phases like that in order to survive on their own. I see this pattern play out constantly, especially among siblings. For example, my buddy struggled to find a job right out of college, so his family pressured him to join the military. Meanwhile, his sister never received that pressure, and she's spent the last few years stretching out an English associate's degree and living off of both her parents and her boyfriend. I wouldn't necessarily mind this immaturity if we still lived under a patriarchal system, but when half of the population is both developmentally-stunted and encouraged to pursue positions of power, it's a catastrophe.
>>24862993>>24863432I don't know what causes this arrested development, but as a zoomer, it worries me deeply. Most of my friends spend a lot of their freetime watching children's cartoons and playing video games (keep in mind that they're in their mid-twenties). Higher aspirations and values seem to be rare, it's just constant recreation over stuff they should have grown out of years ago. Granted, I'm not much better considering I spend my time reading and shitposting on a mongolian basketweaving forum, but still, it's just pervasive. I can't imagine what someone from just a century ago would think of modern adulthood.
>>24863432NTA. Material prosperity does the same thing to every organism. The group decays until things get hard again, if you give it enough time and it doesn't go extinct it finds an equilibrium point instead of oscillating wildly between abundance and mass death.The world will be forced into a new era soon, it's already beyond peak resource extraction and around peak-population, post-AI, post-democratization of propaganda through the internet, post-woke, post-feminist and post-reactionary. . Economic and military hegemony was outsourced to China and a reckless bet on some vague high tech future fixing everything. The most powerful force of the previous era, US cultural hegemony was lost to the internet, starting a fracturing of cultures that will continue across every tech revolution.
>>24863730I suspect the problem is twofold: There is little left to accomplish, and post-WWII society and culture is built around preventing Great Men from emerging so the world wars don't happen again. What should an individual today aspire to? What is there to pursue other than pure pleasure? Man has been to space, he has reduced the tyranny of distance to a day, and now we are building systems that can think and create the image of anything we imagine, with only the effort of a thought. Why shouldn't they waste their time? Struggle is no longer necessary.
>>24863700>they soon realize that nobody else will help them if they failThe mononuclear family structure fucked over american men so hard...>my buddy struggled to find a job right out of collegeWhat was his degree, if I may ask?
>>24863097This would have happened in pre 2020 4chan.Right now they don't even put in the effort to discuss those 3 or 4 concepts they learned in high school about poetry (e.g. muh rhymes, muh rhythm, etc.).All they do now is circlejerk milquetoast opinions about society. Long, poorly written opinions that read like they are being told by a basement dweller who experiences reality through the lenses of internet, except for his yearly pilgrimage to touch grass, where his confirmation bias shines through.No depth in their worldview causes a lack of ability when it comes to enjoying litfic, let alone poetry./lit/ is not elitist anymore, it's just contrarian. Instapoetry doesn't even get into academia, because it's a genre that is written by teenagers for teenagers: it literally has no pretention of been complex and deep. If instapoetry was to disappear, what genre of poetry will /lit/ pick on next?Black poetics? Feminist poetics? Some other DEI trash academia is getting financed to virtue signal? Yes, because they know that the bulk, and not their sidehustling (meant only to get those gibs from black rock), of the academics is elitist, they spit on the /lit/bro who larp as them.All these threads are (and will be) is insecure fucks who wanna feel good about themselves because, at least, they are better than some 15 years old self-published breakup "poetry" written originally on the notepad app: yes, aliza grace wrote this shit at 15 years of age, and all her books were self-published.
>>24860466Not if they're like that
>>24864233This is fucking awesome, Nael is awesome
