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How do you feel about the rise of anti-intellectualism within the last half-decade?
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/lit/ isn’t anti intellectual in the same way? If they were reading a book by a woman and a fantasy about rape appears early, many would put it down
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Ignoring your twitter shit
it's mostly just antileftist degeneracy
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I wrote a fantasy book and one review said it was nothing but “rape, rape, rape, with Christian allegory sprinkled in”
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>>24862808
We're a neurodivergent community now. Identity illnesses.
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>>24862808
The CIA has been helping to shape public opinion for decades. Homer Simpson, Beavis and Butthead on and on. And not to forget the conscious efforts to make more autists.

How do I feel about it? I am anti-fascist so of course I hate it
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>>24862808
Alpargatas sí, libros no
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>>24862808
I don't care. What's important is that twice two is four and all the rest's nonsense.
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>>24862808
millenials are reading hegel in public we'll be ok
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>>24862808
leftism is running amok in education
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>>24862808
Critisizing modern academia isn’t anti-intellectualism. Modern academia defending their schlock is anti-intellectualism.
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Is there a single other author in the english language more profoundly overrated than Orwell?
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>>24862930
It's funny to see all the Orwell hatred rise out of leftists specifically because so many pieces of his puzzle fell into place exactly as predicted. 1984 isn't particularly well written stylistically, it was obviously a political piece, and as a political piece I cannot think of something that ever hit the mark as hard as it did.
Yes the world has literally become like 1984 down to every detail. The center theme of the novel is the degradation of language. Look at how you can't follow a zoomer conversation because they all speak is nigger terms that get refreshed every week. Try to use more precise terminology - not fancy, not archaic, just more clear - and you get laughed at, or at worst you get called a Nazi, because the choice of using "old" terms is a political stance of rejection of the current narrative. See people who default to "he" instead of "they" are now getting noticed. It is exactly as explained in 1984, which is nothing new because 1984 simply describes Soviet era Communism. But of course things that become horribly real are a "meme" now, because we absolutely need to downplay everything because only nazis and schizos don't downplay; if someone points something out and notices a pattern we have to call him "schizo", take your meds, rent free, etc etc. it's just so fucking funny because this whole gigantic game of chicken is also covered in 1984.
And I don't really give a fuck I really hope that normies will live the rest of their existence in the bleakest most unbearable totalitarian hell. I fucking hate cattle so fucking much, the sooner they become like chicken in a shitty meat factory the better. I fucking hate normalniggers so fucking much. Indolence is the greatest sin in the world, Dante was wrong in choosing betrayal and having indolence punished so lightly in Hell. Fucking normalniggers holy fucking shit.
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>>24862979
Take it easy dude
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>>24862979
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>>24862979
Finally a good post on /lit/. Normalcunts need to exterminated down to the last infant.
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>>24862979
basednuke
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>>24862808
Are you sure we're just not actually getting dumber?
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>>24862979
>I cannot think of something that ever hit the mark as hard as it did
Pic related, as well as its pseudo-follow-up Elementary Particles/Atomised.
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>>24862979
Thanks anon, my new theory is that Orwell is overrated because his work resonates with those who share his worst instincts. Namely misanthropy, narcissism, and myopic fixation on petty political drama.
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>>24862826
put it down only to pull my dick out then pick it back up again
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>>24862830
>antileftist
>degenerate
Huh
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>>24863080
>Namely misanthropy, narcissism, and myopic fixation on petty political drama
but twitter trannies hate Orwell
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It's a result of the protestant revolution, cheap journalism and americanism. The belief that somehow you know more about medicine, architecture or history than someone who's dedicated their whole life to studying said field is a direct result of a bunch of midwits believing they understood the Bible better than the catholic church and it's entire millenia old history and studies by just doing a vibes based personal reading of it. This mentality later stuck with americans combined with the weird fetishization and romantization americans have of physical labor, working without a degree and hillbilly shit, something most countries deem below subhuman and a general spiteful attitude towards academia that's partially justified is what spiraled this.
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>>24863080
>Orwell was a misanthropic narcissist with a myopic fixation on politics.

Do you even read?
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>>24862808
The fraud that collapsed Bell Labs lead the entire field of practical material science GLOBALLY down a dead end for almost a decade. Pop science magazines were very popular at the time and organic semiconductors were one of the most popular subjects. Anyone who read any of that would have better spent their time reading lorem ipsum on repeat.
There were critics from the start, they didn't think it was fraud but wanted standard practices applied. They were marginalized, lost their jobs and told to "trust the experts" despite being experts.
The problem is the rise of retards and women playing the part of "experts" while having absolutely no clue about anything. Like the Bell Labs guy they're too retarded to even pretend they care about the subject they claim expertise in. They don't have to since they can just shut down any criticism using propaganda terms like "anti-intellectualism".
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>>24863147
from this post it sounds more like the problem was experts in general.
orson welles in another context said
>Is it art? Well, how is it valued? The value depends on opinion. Opinion depends on the experts. A faker like Elmyr [de Hory] makes fools of the experts, so who’s the expert? Who’s the faker?
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>The center theme of the novel is the degradation of language. Look at how you can't follow a zoomer conversation
That's not what newspeak is about you fucking retard. Newspeak explicitly is not a natural change, dialect or slang, it's intentionally crafted with a neuroprogramming purpose. It's also not expanding language with convolutions that you can't explain, it's simplifying it. It's not hard to understand, the whole point is everything is extremely easy to understand. Instead of dozens of synonyms for something bad, you just get ungood. Emphasis is standardized (double plus ungood). The zoomer conversation is also not the product of the government, au contraire the most resistance to their crap comes from institutions, you can't go 5 minutes without teachers complaining and they even ban Alphie memes from school setting (the whole 67 shit). The evil government is actively working against them. But what the evil government has done is adopt some of the slang of YOUR generation you dumb fuck, can't go a month without some actual official using "based" or whatever millennial turd language in their desperate attempt to be relevant. That would be /following/ not /dictating/ or creating by the way.

Your whole rant is like one of those retarded boomer comics complaining something is just like 1984 with zero actual context because neither of you read the fucking book. Begone, swine.
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When did 1984 go on about raping women?
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>>24862826
Reading books written by women is anti-intellectual behavior.
Putting down a book written by a woman is midwit behavior.
Never picking it up is intellectual behavior.
Promoting the revocation of women's rights is real genius.
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>>24863170
Watching you effeminate faggots try to push generational responsibility like this reminds me of shrill 2010's tumblr dangerhairs crying about white men.
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>>24862808
I want to nail all MAGAtards to a tree from their limbs and never have to interact with one ever again.

t. Voted for Trump twice.
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>>24862979
The reason you get laughed at or called a nazi is because you're a fucking retard.
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>>24863082
I meant male-on-male
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>>24863190
And the most anti intellectual thing anyone can do is to not vote Trump
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>>24862832
Why you write about rape? Perv.
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>>24862826
Putting down a book written by a woman is midwit behavior. Intellectualism is never picking it up.
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>>24863205
>hmm i can't defend against his point better attack something irrelevant
Eat shit boomer jew
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>>24862808
It's this >>24863137

Nothing new under the sun.
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>>24863157
The underlying problems were the same that lead to the covid "vaccine". Women and retards with no backbone completely crumbling under the slightest pressure from politics and money while being too dumb to even realize they're compromised.
We can't use basic procedures to validate the price of art but we can when it comes to the claims made by Bell and the vax shills. In both cases actual experts pointed out the need to follow the procedures and in both cases retards and women used dishonest, mindless emotional appeals to avoid even trying to find out if they're wrong, which is supposed to be pretty much the only thing the scientific method actually does.
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>>24862979
eh at this point it seems like a natural progression of things. Take the doomer pill anon, resistance is futile
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>>24863322
I think niggers like you should be put in camps.
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>mass literacy has proven that the majority of population is retarded
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>>24863137
what an idiotic post
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>>24862808
Being smart is hard work. Most people avoid hard work epsically mentally. So as society becomes easier to just live in without struggle for resources or meaning most people opt out using the mind as tool to decode reality. It's always been this way social media just gives a voice to people who never needed nor ever asked for one.
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>>24863470
Plato knew this 2500 years ago
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>>24862808
Feel pretty good about it. Pol Pot had the right kind of ideas.
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>>24862979
1984 is just a description of awareness of the structure of society that imprisons your mind. It describes every possible state of knowledge of the structure without internal transcendence dede of it
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>>24863170
>That's not what newspeak is about you fucking retard.
That's exactly what newspeak is about, you fucking retard. Making so that people won't use gender in their sentences, no he or she, but only a "they" removes an essential part of language. It's the first of many examples but there are so many fucking cases. Zoomer ebonics aren't just ugly as fuck and reek like shit, they also degrade the information conveyed, this is what the fuck I was talking about you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>24863487
EXACTLY, finally someone understands
the entire intellectual class must be annihilated
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>>24863501
Your groid brain could conjure one example that’s not relevant to zoomers as the people pushing it are millennial and older (check the political leanings you old fart, younger generations are less liberal not more). Even then it’s not actually a generational issue since only a subset of the left cared to put their fucking pronouns in title and that era lasted 10 years and never got actual government support and now it’s all blown away.
> It's the first of many examples
It’s the only thing you had and it doesn’t apply to the argument you're trying to make.
> Zoomer ebonics
So “based” am I right?
So we’ve established you’re another dumb amerimutt who can’t read books or make arguments. Just go suck a tailpipe and rid us of further shit smears from your shartboard.
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>>24863453
Show your work retard.
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>>24862832
Fuck off Terry, nobody likes your books.
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>>24863578
>It’s the only thing you had
No. Another example off the top of my head is curvy. This is one of many cases where meanings are being conflated, in order to destroy the specificity of them. Curvy means a sexy woman with curves, a hourglass shape. Marilyn Monroe is curvy. And then there's fat. A fat woman is fucking fat. But now, because fat is un-PC, people say curvy to say fat. The constant use of euphemisms is about voiding the meaning of words, that's literally what euphemism does, dampen the meaning of what you are saying, but not only that, when you say "I like curvy women" people might and will understand that you like fat women, so the term curvy, curvaceous is now unusable when it was pretty standard to describe a commonly attractive body type. Even if they are not subhuman who will interpret that you're a thiccnigger with shit taste, it's still pretty much a gamble on whether they will understand the right meaning of the word or not. A whole lot of English vocabulary is becoming opaque this way.
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>>24862979
>See people who default to "he" instead of "they" are now getting noticed
The correct pronoun to refer to a person of unknown gender is "he or she". "He" is only properly used to refer to males and "they" is only properly used for groups.
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>>24863578
It's still an example of intentional neuroprogramming using language.
Punishing people for using a word like nigger is another example. That these attempts failed to take over the government this time doesn't change anything. There's still a group trying to fuck with your brain, to control you through subverting your ability to communicate and think. The people doing it proudly admit it, again subverting language to frame their attacks on your individual sovereignty as kindness, rape as love.
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>>24863598
Anon I am not the one advocating for tranny pronouns. It's a fact that a whole lot of Americans just say "they" all the time. If they're talking about a friend, whose gender is supposedly fucking known, they will still say "they", and just the same they'll say things like "SO", "partner", "spouse", and all these vague retard words they are conditioned to say because using gendered speech is wrongbad. When someone says "my partner" it feels like it's your associate, no, it's your fucking wife. I fucking goddamn hate this English so fucking much. Such a rich language with an enormous amount of words and it's being demolished every year.



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