Is every character supposed to be weird and insufferable?
Only insomuch as they carry the traits of the pedophile author.
>>24866281McCarthy is a fraud and the sooner you realize this the better off you'll be. A beautiful prose stylist, to be sure, but he was a fundamentally shallow artist with a shallow view of humans and the universe. There is nothing of substance to be gained from even a single one of his books.
>>24866281Even if it's true, why is that a bad thing?
>>24866284I like the actual mystery, it’s very DB Cooper and that’s cool but the lack of quotation marks around dialogue makes conversations hard to follow and characters just kind of blur together. This is probably intentional.
>>24866288I don’t even think it’s a bad thing necessarily
>>24866282Everyone who had sex before 2014 is some kind of criminal
>>24866284> Do you think that your fathers are watching? That they weigh you in their ledgerbook? Against what? There is no book and your fathers are dead in the ground.>I think they are watching us, he said. They are watching for a thing that even death cannot undo and if they do not see it they will turn away from us and they will not come back.How is this shallow?
>>24866308That’s the definition of shallow
>>24866281He's in a coma stranded between life and death so yes.
>>24866312Maybe I could've chosen a different excerpt, but I still think there's depth in his stories.
>>24866338Personally I don’t think “depth” exists, either something emotionally resonates with you or it doesn’t
>>24866323Oh that’s why there’s a passenger and black book missing, cool I guess
>>24866290An easy way to cheat the author out of this is to listen to the audiobook. They use different voices for every character so you can follow it like a normal book
>>24866284You're retarded and probably underage
>>24866705It's funny that you say this, because McCarthy is the juvenile one. He never grew up from the high school misanthrope phase many intellectuals have. He just stayed in that wretched, pathetic state of mind until he was an old man.All great authors (and great artists in general) feel a deep, almost spiritual sense of compassion and concern for their fellow man. McCarthy felt no such thing, and that's why his books have no enduring value.
>>24866726See also: Houellebecq for another example of a hack writer who never matured past teenage nihilism and is praised by pseuds.
>>24866726>>24866731It's almost certain now that you're underage. Kill yourself.>All great authors (and great artists in general) feel a deep, almost spiritual sense of compassion and concern for their fellow man.Lol
>>24866312>>24866284Post your writing, your critique itself is shallow so I doubt it's good
>>24866751And it's almost certain now that you are sub-80 IQ. Talking to you is clearly pointless.
>>24866754I primarily write poetry. I don't have any natural talent for prose, but I still nonetheless can recognize when a novel is good and when it's bad.
>>24866726>All great authors (and great artists in general) feel a deep, almost spiritual sense of compassion and concern for their fellow man.Retard.
>>24866751>>24866776Name a single great artist that goes against that statement. You either will name a hack, or you are sub-80 IQ dribbling retards who think I'm suggesting that having compassion for humanity is the same thing as behaving like a saint in one's personal life.
>>24866755>>24866787You talk a retarded infant.>muh nihilismFucking retard lol. McCarthy is not a nihilist. You see it that way because you're fucking retarded.Even if he was that has nothing to do with depth. Nearly all of the most complex philosophies post 18th century have been some flavor of nihilism. You're so fucking retarded you think "muh relatability" is what makes art great.>inb4 no argumentKafka. Now kill yourself, low IQ chimp
>>24866757You have immense natural talent for retardation>I write poetryKEK. You smear shit on the page, retard. That's not poetry
>i never write supernatural themes in my books >his most famous villain is the most obvious incarnation of satan you could possibly imagine, with super strength, mind control, teleporting, immortality and anachronistic grip on scientific knowledge>and also comes and goes with meteor showers
>>24866801I'm going to ignore the tard rage and focus on your sole example:>KafkaKafka repeatedly demonstrates profound sympathy for the suffering of human beings in literally every single one of his works. Not a single thing he wrote could being meaningfully described as misanthropic or nihilistic. Horrible example. You are an illiterate philistine and you should promptly jump off a bridge.
>>24866802I'm sorry I insulted your favorite trash author, but I'm not going to stop. Either get better taste or kill yourself, I'm afraid those are your only two options.
>>24866811You're just trash and retarded. Kill yourself >>24866806>8 year old retard hasn't even read KafkaKill yourself retard
>>24866726>All great authors (and great artists in general) feel a deep, almost spiritual sense of compassion and concern for their fellow manYou have to be 18 to post here, retard.
>>24866806>Kafka repeatedly demonstrates profound sympathy for the suffering of human beings in literally every single one of his works. Not a single thing he wrote could being meaningfully described as misanthropic or nihilistic.Holy fuck the absolute retardation here. Chatgpt could have come up with something better. You're whore mother should have aborted you.
>>24866822>>24866823Please take a break from the internet. I don't want to be responsible for somebody's psychotic breakdown. I was just trying to discuss literature on the literature board.
>>24866823Let him. I am gonna bully his retarded chimp ass to oblivion.
>>24866827>literatureLol.You're too fucking retarded for literature. Either kill yourself or stick to video games.
>>24866827You have too many chromosomes to read literature.
>>24866827>I was just trying to discuss literatureKey word: trying. You're a retard.
>>24866806This is the single worst reading of kafka. If you aren't 18, just find a really busy intersection and unburden your parents.
>>24866829>>24866830>>24866832I genuinely can't tell if you are one anon sperging out or if my completely benign criticism of Cormac McCarthy somehow managed to triggered THREE separate anons into having psychotic breakdowns, but, either way, this thread is past the point of no return and I'll take my leave.
>>24866837>I genuinely can't tell if you are one anon sperging outWe're multiple anons and we think you're an idiot.>I'll take my leaveNo one cares, fag.
>>24866806RETARD ALERT.
>>24866837We are not psychotic. You're just astronomically retarded and it was a sad day when your mother decided to keep you.
>>24866837Ciao. Hopefully some car crushes you when you go out next time.
>>24866811>>24866837>>i am not going to stop>muh beningn criticism. "May i take my leave, sire?"What a whipped pussy bitch lol.
>>24866806>writer repeatedly had non-anthromorphic narrators showcase the absurdity of human existence and alienation>"nooo he had profound sympathy for the human race"Kafka literally had difficulty in positively relating to any person in his life. He wasn't sympathetic in the slightest. He literally saw himself as a victim of existence.
>>24866281No, and they're not. "Insufferable" is a strong term.The grandmother is entirely admirable and likeable. The old codger who lives in squalor is quite fun and not really unpleasant. Bobby himself is a mixed bag but mostly OK. He's a pretty kindly guy who’s just wrapped up in his grief.To some extent I agree with you though. Cormac certainly seems to have a higher opinion of many of the characters than I do. John Sheddan is the obvious case but Alicia also isn't nearly as appealing as I think she's meant to be.It gets much worse in Stella Maris. We've been sold A. as this saintly wounded-yet-wonderful creature but in SM she's pretty obnoxious. She's an intellectual bully (as she herself admits towards the end), and constantly snarky and rude. She behaves like the worst sort of smart-aleck ten-year-old on a school playground.
>>24866281Yes. The siblings hate themselves for loving each other too much. Their way of life is barely allowing them to fit into this world. Their pursuit of knowledge pushes them over the limits of rationality into madness. Madness, both as a result and perhaps scientific method. McCarthy clears these points up in his last interviews.
>>24866726What a bore you are.
>>24866787Dude you’re so retarded lmao it’s pathetic. Let the big boys talk.
I really enjoyed The Passengera lot of the times it felt like it was going nowhere but that was ok for me
>>24866802>You smear shit on the page, retard.Just like McCarthy.
>>24866837McCarthyfags are very insecure and clique-like.Much like women.
>>24867510>>24867511Stop crying, incel.
>>24867516>incelShouldn't you be bitching on xitter?
>>24867524Shouldn't you stop bitching by now?
>>24867564Shouldn't you McCarthyfags learned what an opinion is by now?
>>24866801>McCarthy is not a nihilistHe very obviously is retard
>>24866284Anons seething in the replies but he's right
>>24867570You retards should keep to your containment threads.
>>24867610What containment threads would those be?
>>24867583No he is not, retard>>24867584Kys samefag
>>24867623Not the McCarthy threads for sure. You don't even have an opinion on account of having never read any McCarthy. You're just butthurt that McCarthyfags kicked your ass for being a retard 5 years ago. That's embarrassing and pathetic.
>>24867625Yes he is that's why the Judge ultimately kills the kid
>>24867654There's an epilogue after. Plus having the Kid die doesn't make him a nihilist. Nor is BM the only book he wrote.
>>24867628>You're just butthurt that McCarthyfags kicked your ass for being a retard 5 years agoFuck are you even on about?Do you seriously believe that everyone that doesn't like McCarthy is a single person?
>>24867663Don't talk as if you haven't been visiting these threads just to throw shade like a coward for the past 5 years. Anyone who has been lurking since the past 5 years in these threads know who you are. Pathetic bitch.
>>24867668I wasn't even a regular on /lit/ 5 years ago.>like a cowardWe're on an anonymous message board. Don't take shitposting so seriously.
>>24867675Sure.
>>24867662>filtered by BM
>>24867691>projectionYou think he is a nihilist. It is you who got filtered.
>>24867748What is he then?
>>24867748He is a nihilist, clearly. The underlying message of every book he wrote is that you're determined and everything you believe in is an illusion.
>>24867848NTA, I think it's more accurate to describe him as a "this world is evil and so are we" Gnostic more than anything.
>>24867875Disagree. He doesn't believe in "evil." You're filtering yourself because YOU believe in, or have preconceptions about it.
>>24867908I don't think that nihilism is the only thing he believed in, even if his stories had nihilistic undertones. He didn't sit down and write them *just* to convey that nothing matters. I think that there is a lamentation behind it all, and that he's showing us what happened in a specific place & time period as a 'sample' of what reality is like general. If anything, he was a Gnostic pessimist that believed that life and the world was fundamentally shitty and terrible.
>>24867963Right he never got out of his teenage emo phase probably why he banged teenagers
>>24868037>REAL adults think the world is heckin' okay!
>>24866290I've long wondered why fans don't edit these kinds of sloppy works to fix what the lazy author couldn't be bothered with.
>>24868072It ain't that bad
>>24868133You're infantile
>>24867848You're retarded.
>>24868860>>24868865You're coping
>>24866804Perhaps he does not consider Satan to be supernatural?
