Isekai translation solution tier list:

>Realistic tier
MC bumbles through the language until they eventually learn it
MC learns it naturally as a baby

>Decent tier
MC reincarnates into someone else and inherits their knowledge
MC is given a translation spell that automatically translates every language by the isekaier being (hijinx potential bumps it up to decent)
MC does not speak to the natives at all; they only know violence

>Meh tier
MC has the language installed by the isekaier being
MC can speak through 'translation magic'

>Trash tier
MC speaks the language perfectly (never mentioned)
MC spawns with the language installed in their system (unexplained)

>Why bother tier
MC is taught the language briefly, and given some grammar notes and a dictionary by the isekaier being

What am I missing?

>>24873364
do people actually care about stuff like this? lol

>>24873364
How do we feel about isekai where the big cheat is that the System is in a language he understands, unlike everyone else?

>>24873372
The only way this works is if you make everyone retarded, in which case the story will be shit. There is absolutely no way something so fundamental as a system would exist in people's consciousness and they decide to not study it to hell and back, or hell, even make it their primary language.

>>24873370
Of course; ultimately, it's a test on the author's competence in worldbuilding and lore. If they fail on the first step, it's doomed from my point of view.

>>24873364
>God Tier
MC was multilingual in life and isekai language feels like either a weird dialect of a language MC knew or a mashup of languages, this is handled via Tekken Logic

>>24873364
Caring about this at all makes you the gay commenter doing the same as the "why didn't the protagonist act perfectly logically" guys.
90% of the stories that explain how the protagonist can speak native gain nothing by explaining it because it's not relevant to the actual story

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Just a friendly reminder.

Pic related has 34 million views on Webnovel,
3900 reviews with average rating 4.82 out of 5,
904 ratings on goodreads (mind you goodreads is a lot more focused on traditionally published books), 4.54 out of 5 rating.
Hundreds of comments overwhelmingly positive.
While you sirs don't get even a single comment and when you do it's almost always negative.

>>24873446
>the actual story
As if the actual story wasn't just the MC killing mobs and getting glazed by the locals

>>24873452
If that's the story you want to tell you shouldn't be padding it out with explanations for stuff that doesn't matter.

>>24873370
No

>>24873387
you care
people do not care
important distinction

Discuss your favorite DCC scenes and theorize about where you believe the plot to be heading.

>>24873473
I haven't read DCC

>>24873472
>>24873457
I hope my 0.5 star reviews will make it less likely that you ever find the fictions in question

>>24873473
my favorite scenes in DCC are the ones where Donut realizes she's an unlovable shitbag that ought to be punted through the nearest window at the nearest opportunity and who will never be loved

nothing ever comes of it but it's the only retribution that little cunt will ever get

>>24873490
donut is the only actually interesting character in that series lmao

>>24873473
I've talked about my favourite scenes in the previous thread.
I think we are going to the origin of a galaxy-wide AI system. No idea what the fate of Earth will be.

>>24873387
>Of course; ultimately, it's a test on the author's competence in worldbuilding and lore. If they fail on the first step, it's doomed from my point of view.
My isekai is going to have the language situation unexplained so it filters out the autists like you as early as possible

>>24873549
Enjoy your 0.5 stars

>>24873599
>gets it removed
sorry chud, better luck next time

>>24873599
.5 is a part of life, all stories get them. true bliss is making the tards bounce away early so you don't have to deal with them for 200 chapters before eventually some tiny detail triggers them and they leave the .5 anyway
i know your kind

Probably been asked a million times, but...
What software do you guys use to write your web novel?

>>24873611
directly into the submission box

>>24873355
What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

>>24873611
notepad

I wrote some shitty python scripts to keep track of wordcounts, convert my own syntax to markdown for the Patreon and the HTML RR uses, and some other shit

>>24873611
an blunt piece of old coal and faded newspaper from the 60s specifically

>Bro, why don’t you write an isekai where a goddess is just a woman in a high-paying office job that has to manage an absurdly dumb hero who somehow nearly dies at every turn? If she fails, she has to get a real-world job like a normal person, so she’s forced to do everything she can to keep him alive. The hero’s skillset is ridiculous things like ‘if I look at you, you die,’ and the stakes are hilariously low: fail, and the goddess ends up as a wage slave at McDonald’s.

>All the heroes are constantly being compared, racing to save as many worlds as possible in the shortest amount of time. Sometimes heroes even clash directly in worlds, fighting to see who can save it first. Meanwhile, she has to manage the chaos, prevent disasters, and navigate office bureaucracy all at once, or risk losing her boyfriend, who has no job and leeches off her, but he is hot

>>24873611
Scrivener is in my opinion the best
Docs or Word is the other industry standard
Since this is 4chan you'll hear a lot of really weird, niche, or techy answers, feel free to do that if you like it but I've looked into them and I honestly don't understand why you'd use them over Scrivener

>>24873635
someone played dispatch

>>24873640
The funny part is that I didn't

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>>24873638
No thanks.

>>24873611
gdocs
i do like novelwriter tho

>>24873635
I had a similar premise except the isekai-man becomes god's (male, old) CIA spook and has to infiltrate a world, find out what is killing it and get rid of the problem in an inconspicuous way
Basically god was targeted by an eldritch abomination (female, yandere) so it would become it's subordinate again (sex pet)
God also had a huge repertoire of female heroes from his world to help him ala Charlie's Angels or Totally Spies and a command center in heaven were they send him information and some skills or weapons relevant to the world
I don't know how it ends, i never cared too much for the idea

>>24873706
how do u use 4chan and can't pirate lol

>>24873611
directly into the url bar

>>24873611
Scrivener.

>>24873611
Google Docs is all you need

>>24873706
What third world shithole are you from that you can't afford a one off cost of $60?

>>24873868
>What third world shithole are you from
the USA

Some asshole gave me a 1.5 star rating for my third total rating.
No comment, nothing. I can't even whine to the admins to remove it because it's two steps above the lowest possible rating.
I have no idea why they would do that.

>>24873868
LMAO, no
If he was from a third world shithole the thought of ever buying software would've never crossed his mind
>t. sudaca

>>24873882
Link ur story anon I'll gift u a 1 star review

>>24873882
Find the rising stars story one place above yours and give it a 1.5 stars

>>24873882
>I have no idea why they would do that.
Usually this happens because the writing is either extremely bad, you introduced a controversial element very poorly, or your title/cover/blurb lied about what kind of story it is and they felt deceived
There's a very small chance it was just a driveby asshole but it really does usually have a reason

>>24873882
What would Fang Yuan do in this situation?

>>24873907
He would subscribe to my patreon

>>24873895
>extremely bad
Gotten positive feedback other than this rating.
>your title/cover/blurb lied about what kind of story it is and they felt deceived
Maybe? I dunno I feel like I was very clear about what the story was going to be. It's off-market, but why read long enough to be able to rate in that case?
>introduced a controversial element very poorly
Ugh, it's 2025. Nothing in my story, all of which is played up for laughs and humor, should be controversial.

I think it was just a random asshole, but it sucks that this is the third fucking rating and now I'm going to fighting an uphill battle against it.

(At least my ad is doing 50% better than my other ads did. AI-generated anime style truly is the way.)

>>24873913
Do you have premium? You can see what chapter they left the rating on.
If they left it on chapter 1 you might be able to get it removed anyway, just be polite in the ticket, there's no harm trying

>>24873918
No, I'm being a cheap faggot and didn't want to shell out for author premium. I'm doing writathon to try it out for free, and then I'll probably go ahead and get it going forward. Thanks for the advice though

>>24873909
Link to the story?

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>>24873944
It's called Max Level Archmage.

>come up with cool lore reasons to justify my fetish
>but in the end it's still clearly just my fetish
damn it..

>>24873973
Reverend Insanity and Max Level Archmage union when?

>>24873614
Kill!

>>24873988
fetishfic is based
sissification shouldn't be the only fetish with an isekai story

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I made a setting inspired by Reverend Insanity but the problem is how to use it? Who is the main character and what is his (or her just to trigger (you)) story? etc. it's tough

>>24874014
I guess it could just be in the background (until they meet a foreigner there's no need to call to attention that women in this region casually bare their fronts). Might be fun to slip in descriptions without naming it directly.

>>24874021
Veteran cyberpunk guy gets transmigrated, actually takes to the world like a fish in water because he can DIY the gu worm system and doesn't have to pay ripperdocs and because there's a higher (or seemingly no) limit to power.

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>>24874065
Actually, the cultivation system includes cybernetics stolen from demons.

>>24874064
I think it's Wheel of Time that has the race of boat people with the women that don't wear tops while out at sea like their men and only wear them at port because the landlubbers get all weird about it.

>>24873364
>God tier
Everyone speaks classical Chinese (obviously)

>>24874073
WOT has a lot of fetishes that for whatever reason nobody is bothered by.

>>24874101
People were bothered by them. It's just old enough it survived a lot of reactionary discourse on the internet that's common these days. People are pretty vocal about the haremshit even with that in mind though

>>24873364
>>Realistic tier
>MC bumbles through the language until they eventually learn it
not realistic at all to get to conversationally-fluent through this method unless the story takes place over years

>MC speaks the language perfectly (never mentioned)
this is actually elder god tier. all the other methods CAN be good but 98% of the time are implemented in a way as to be worse than this

>>24873736
it's the sad state of the zoomer generation. almost none of them know shit

>>24873611
Scriv is probably better, but I use Obsidian because its easier to write on my phone + I like worldbuilding with the canvas feature

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>>24874014
>sissification shouldn't be the only fetish with an isekai story
i have read a mind control smutslop isekai before (picrel)
there are a number of gender bender ones too.
and scribblehub is for whatever reason chock full of futanari isekai

>>24873638
>Since this is 4chan you'll hear a lot of really weird, niche, or techy answers
LibreWriter has epub export built in for free (as in freedom)
It also worked great for formatting my manuscript for amazon (exported to PDF for final upload).

Enjoy your malware that comes bundled with the cracked software and can't be separated. It's both or neither.

>>24874213
zoomies dont know how to keep themselves safe anymore so they just default to assuming all piracy will instantly get them pwned
sad!

>>24874213
Works On My Machine

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>current year 4chan can't figure out how to pirate without getting malware

There's a bunch of open source ones like Manuskript that have most of the same functionality as Scrivener but are kinda ugly.

>>24873611
Scrivener is good enough for me, it just takes some adjustment at first because it's not a traditional editor. It's also dirt cheap for something I've been using for years.

>>24874236
I have a few trusted sites where I can pick up books, media and games, but nothing for general software. I don't trust the shit that's on public torrent/warez sites tbqhon...

use yWriter (free open source) if you want it local on your PC
use the lowest tier of novelcrafter if you want it online

if you're this much of a newcutie then a one-time fee for what's generally considered the best writing software is a nobrainer. you'll use it for the next 40 years

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>>24874316
I write with my journal and it destroyed my wrists. Now I just use tts but my jaws get tired from all the yapping.

I'll just wait for brainwave-to-text software when it arrives

>>24874322
>it destroyed my wrists.
get one of those special two-piece ergo keyboards that software engineers get when they fuck up their wrists but have to keep working bc they'll starve
or is it some deeper medical condition than RSI/carpal

>>24874195
>this is actually elder god tier. all the other methods CAN be good but 98% of the time are implemented in a way as to be worse than this
agreed
the Rational Fiction movement is honestly a cancerous blight. i don't want my fiction to stand up against autistic scrutiny on whether two suns REALLY makes sense (and here's 5 pages of info dump to explain why), I want the story to be interesting. literally don't mention these kinds of elements, EVER, in any capacity, I truly don't give a shit

>>24874005
Crazy that both the Reverend Insanity author and the Max Level Archmage author both lurk /wng/ and shill their fictions nonstop

>>24874380
It explains a lot that your trolling is as bad as your writing.

>>24874390
see >>24873449

>>24873611
linux mint has its own (more featured) notepad. I write in that, each chapter a file. If I am going to assemble chapters into a book I save them all in LIbreOffice, then I can create a master document that references them. Advanced features as good or better than MS office. When I like it, I export it as PDF to check out the look and feel, and I can tweak.
>
But for WN? I just copy/paste a chapter at a time direct into the writer dashboard, and its easy to work with from my basic "Linux notepad" as a windows user would think of it.

I don't write "web novel style" but I once here on lit do a short story for a comp. A guy was betrayed and shot and woke up in a strange world. I basically wanted to plal with a short small isekai. I imagined a random generic "anime game" as I call the stuff and had a cute little slut in sexy revealing leather outfit. She had a blue ball of energy around her and few friends at her new world. She was obviously powerful and had to be respected.
>
With no desire or ability to write "that story" out, I recently used the basic idea when I needed a video game for my MC and his girlfriend to be playing one. Just like the short story, I called it Betrayal. When I reference what is obviously meant to be Call of Duty on internet play, I always call it "Codes of War" and then "Warcodes" is the big update to the original.
>
I will say being here was the only reason I had fooled with "Betrayal" short story, and it was nice to have it handy so my set-in-real-life MC had a game to describe.
>
I described the game play as his girlfriend was the Betrayal girl, and he was the warrior in her band. She was very un-powerful in level one, and had to follow him around. But as they progressed levels, she became increasingly powerful. Her level one laugh-jump-blue energy ball explosion was needed to finish the level, but later on she could titter-explode 10, then 100... finally 1000. Necessary for the big boss of bosses to pass to th next set of levels and really get going. Now she's powerful and can run around in battles with him, the blue ball of energy staying after her explosion coming down and finishing off enemies with him, doing her energy zaps she now has.
>
my aim is for her to draw inspiration from that character and playing it when he's fucked in real life and she has to figure out something to do in real life to help. Instead of watching helpless, she figures out something she CAN do that makes her powerful in the moment even though she can't fight like he can.
>
Yes, I think I know what that is.

what

is tina posting going to be regular here again

>>24874440
>>24874493
The way your posts read always impresses me, tina.

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You DO let your villains aura farm… right?

>>24873496
I ended up caring about Katia a lot more than I thought I would when I was reading through the Iron Tangle floor.

>>24874521
Would you put recent year terms like "aura farm" in your writing?

>>24874522
She grew on me too but still felt ultimately bland. DCC had the typical litrpg problem where I just didn't attach to most of the characters. Donut was honestly the only one who felt like a strong, interesting personality. Carl was alright I guess.
It's kinda funny to me that so many people hate the cat so much they drop the series for it. She was the major redeemer for me. People have such shit taste

>>24874536
>Claiming other people have shit taste when he likes unfunny wholesome chungus baby yoda mascot shit
I guarantee that you own Funko Pops.

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>>24874521
one of my antagonists will absolutely brutalize the protagonist, then kill his best friend who I’ve been building up since ch1

>>24874541
Who are your favorite characters in DCC and why?

>>24874550
Fang Yuan

>>24874560
Lol I literally mentally assigned that anon to an autistic Fang Yuan-style shit character lover, so even if this is ironic it's still funny to me

>>24874536
A lot of them flit in and out too much to get attached to. It's even mentioned in the story recently, ala "with all the big things going on, it's easy to forget the small things". Elle grew on me a bit too, even if she's mostly "old decrepit who got her youth back" and serves as someone to observe and comment on Carl's mental state/behavior. The lobster jerking off was funny.
I want to see how the 'Gods' fuck up the real world especially the Super Gods crawling out of the Nothing.

I'm nearly caught up on Song of Giving and damn... It's worse than I thought. The first few paragraphs are EXTREMELY representative of the writing for the rest of it
>muh traumatic backstories
>weird leftist pet issues
>millenial writing
>magic users making "quips" all the time instead of talking like normal people (or even magic people)
>massive exposition dumps, hardly any action or even activity in the first 19 chapters
>it's a blatant ripoff of beats from Harry Potter (and arthurian legend but the harry potter copying is particularly blatant)

Now as a sign of my own bad taste I'm going to keep reading it. 4.5 stars.

>>24874582
even royalroad is rejecting it for a reason. maybe the first story by a 15k+ follower major success author to literally not even hit front page rs with their new story. christ

>>24874589
What do you know. Someone got lucky and isn't actually all that skilled after all.

>>24874591
Nah I think he has slopskills, he just tried to move out of slop. Didn't know his place
If he wrote another sloppy number spam, fmc story he'd have done great. He tried writing a real story and didn't have the chops for it. His natural skill was in writing trash

I always wondered what that term aura-farming was. Just googled it. No, my male MC in this project doesn't do that. Little bits of paint rub off on me from being here, though. Same MC I made it a point that his peer group is a gaggle of girls and more than one side character started using the phrase "your little harem". I don't dislike being here and I think of the tiny inclusion of "isekai" and "anime game"... and now just using the term harem as little nods I'm here. Its not a real harem I suppose, because while they all clicke up in their situation they were all in... he only has romantics with the one, his girlfriend. She doesn't get jealous if she sees him with the harem member everyone who didn't know better would *think* of as his romantic partner, she knows they're juse close regular friends before hi and her got together. Uhm, "harem-lite" maybe? Judgment call one of you could cast. This stuff is just set and setting, the main premise is nothing to do with it. Of course, you don't lay a finger on any of his girls, whether its his girlfriend, the friend one, nor any of the others. Maybe I'm slowly and organically working into little WN tropes until I can stick a legit tag on something.

>>24874316
Do you really think the retards that constantly ask what's the best writing software actually want to write stuff?

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>>24874589
I thought it hit like third or fifth on RS. But yeah, the views are low given the follower count, and most of the reviews are glazing from fans of BTDEM expecting good things down the road.
To be fair I expect the story to eventually get decent as well, but 179 pages of introduction mainly just ripping off Harry Potter, after making an explicit point about the main character NOT being like Harry Potter, is pathetic.
>>24874594
This too but honestly good for him. He's already rich. If he wants to try his hand at writing on a higher level, that's fine. But you can easily compare the first 21 chapters of Song to the first 21 chapters of BTDEM and see that BTDEM blows it out of the water in almost every respect.
>ch1 rebirth - basic intro chapter
>ch2-11 systemslop explanation and character building
>ch12 life or death situation kinda out of nowhere, but it keeps things interesting
>ch13-18 bit of foreshadowing and more doing things with magic, more character interactions
>ch19 first big turning point, hugely impactful for character and plot for the rest of the story
>ch20 timeskip

Compare that to Song. The last chapter is quite literally a tour of the magic castle they're going to live in, tooootally not a complete carbon copy of hogwarts.

You know what the real problem with Song is? It's something we've talked about in /wng/ before.
Multiple main characters. Song has four. It's not going that well.

Regarding main characters, what if it's the same person, but there are clones of them or they're at different points at time, or some other way to have several. Does that still count as a single lead character?

>>24874683
stealth RI post

>>24874665
>I thought it hit like third or fifth on RS
definitely did not. it's still in its growth period and seeming like it wont hit top 7 FP

>>24874665
>You know what the real problem with Song is? It's something we've talked about in /wng/ before.
>Multiple main characters. Song has four. It's not going that well.
Successful meta author transitions to off meta and fails
Where's the Pale Lights schizo now?

>>24874582
>Now as a sign of my own bad taste I'm going to keep reading it. 4.5 stars.
god save us all

>>24874665
>after making an explicit point about the main character NOT being like Harry Potter, is pathetic.
it literally has "yer a wizard, harry" in the fucking blurb though

>>24874776
that's his point

>>24874683
depends on whether the author treats them as ultimately an instrument of the MC's will (most litrpgslop with cloning powers) or whether they're allowed to have their own internal and even conflicting thoughts & goals

>>24874773
I can't help it. I did enjoy BTDEM, even when it was meandering bullshit. Song is bad, worse than BTDEM, but by RR standards it's still top tier. At least the sentences are mostly pleasant to read. Multiple main characters is inflating the wordcount at the cost of any plot happening, but I read doorstoppers anyway. It's fine. I think 4.5 stars is fair.

>>24874776
>>24874781
Yes. Selkie is trying to play it both ways with the... homage. It's more of a ripoff than an homage but whatever. It would have been better to pick a lane, and less jarring.

are there any urban fantasy wns with a premise like:
>MC gets inducted into the shadow of society, the hidden fantasy in a mundane world
>Expects something like WoD or Artemis Fowl
>Instead becomes a witness to a race war between skinhead goblins and shirtless fairies who still live as if it’s the 4th century AD
>Interviews a wizard, slowly comes to the dreadful realization that said wizard is essentially a 90’s gangbanger who deals in magic
>MC has to survive going through wizard O-Block
>Learns that Vampires live in Projects, and werewolves are autistic pagan larpers
>Etc.

are there any WNs where the gang violence endemic to big cities in the 90’s ended up leaking into the supernatural world and dying it in its colors?

>>24874822
sounds pretty miserable

>>24874822
just watch a us or british tv series at that point. you just want misery everywhere and those two are the best at it.

It has come to my attention that many of you are using AI chatbots to critique your stuff. AI chatbots are useless and just blow smoke up your ass. You can give it the absolute worst writing imaginable and it will tell you "it's actually quite good! Dont give up!"

So I am offering my services as a professional critiquer for a small fee. I will critique an outline of your novel, I will critique a chapter or two, I will critique a sample of your prose, maybe I can even critique your whole novel, if I have the time.

I will tell you my impression of your characters. I will tell you what things are unclear. I will point out what moments worked and which didn't. I will check your tone, your POV, and your vocabulary for consistency. I will tell you if your twist ending is too obvious. I will tell you which parts go on for too long, or which moments are too short. I will tell you if your dialog sounds normal. And I will recommend certain novels that I think match your work, so you can read them and study them and improve.

If anyone is interested just reply with a throwaway email or discord and I'll get back to you.

>>24874864
>>24874895
goycattle

>>24873549
Not gonna lie, I saw the price and immediately assumed it was a subscription.

>>24873364
I, too, want to write an isekai story that is an allegory for immigration.

>>24874931
>bringing modern day politics to fantasy literature
No thanks

it's weird having nanowrimo be officially dead, it's been a part of my 'writing life' for decades.

>>24874988
It's so great. /lit/ used to be swamped with Nanowrimo fags every November. But now it's dead silent. I honestly thought it would be business as usual, but I guess without their dumb website they're all lost.

>>24874999
I've personally never used their over-glorified word counter but I always try to participate

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>think my follower count took a steep drop
>want to kill myself
>realized I remembered it wrong by 10 and it actually went up
>we're so back
Why can't I just focus on writing, for fuck's sake

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>You will be successful.
>You will have a cult following.
>You will have fans making videos about your worldbuilding.
>You will finish your story.
>You'll wake up without ever having to worry about the bills.
>You will make your parents proud, even if your genre is questionable.

jk that will never happen. get fucked :)

>>24875044
finishing my story and proud parents are the ONLY two of those I care about

>>24873913
>ads
>plural
>only 3 ratings

My brother, how many chapters do you have exactly? Please don't tell me you're paying for ads with anything less than 80k words

>>24875105
Sending your money to Israel is a joy of its own

>>24875024
>Why can't I just focus on writing, for fuck's sake
join the club. My thoughts exactly. Of course growing up in school, I thought I was there to get an education and get good grades. Surprise! I was also there to learn to have thick skin and apparently I was going to get "graded" on how well I could fistfight back. No one ever points out the fine print, anon. Do your thing, have a beer and a pizza. Hit the heavy bag some (or a critic, your choice, lol) You'll get better at all of it.

i jacked off so much my penis hurts and i did NOT write. fuck writing. I will NOT publish multiple chapters a week.

>>24874822
necromancers and vampires should have a rivalry
Call em Crypt Lords and Blood Kings

what's this about begging the admins to delete low star reviews? Is that a thing?

>>24875384
You actually have no idea much inspiration you're given up writing without a hard on
>>24875390
Worked for Kino-man

>>24875390
The fucking retards included 0.5 stars in their dumbfuck rating system, but if anyone actually gives you 0.5 stars, you can get the jannies to remove it, because it's actually too bad and not allowed.

I'm guessing this is another hidden mechanic to separate the jewish system-gamers from the honest writers who just take the L and sink in the rankings.

>>24873473
[EPITOME TAGG'S SEXY MOTHER]

>>24875453
I half starred something I'd read on my kindle that truly deserved it and it just got removed because I wasn't shown as having read each chapter on the site lol

If you give out 0.5 stars, you are objectively a bad human being

>>24874522
>I ended up caring about Katia a lot more than I thought I would when I was reading through the Iron Tangle floor.
The druggie whore who fucks a random furry the moment she leaves the party?

lol is it the same anon every time who spergs the hell out whenever female side characters have sex off screen? it's so funny

>>24875736
I am just baffled why someone would like a disgusting piece of shit like her.

>>24875752
i'm sorry she didn't save her fictional virginity for you anon

>>24875764
At least Donut didn't actually let that mongrel rut her.

>>24873350
how many years away are we from all this web novel trash being written by ai?

>>24875895
0

>>24875895
Kind of already a problem but it's easy to spot them because they always write a certain way and have trouble keeping up a consistent story.
Short stories have already been ruined by AI, it's hard to even tell now. Novels will be next. Ironically very long web novels will be the last to fall.
The last bastion of human writing is power fantasy slop. Let that sink in.

>>24875895
There's already ones being written with it but the fundamental problem that stops them from sneaking past unnoticed is memory, which is the expensive part of AI.

Also the webnovel audience are the people jerking off to ai chatbots so they're funnily enough the people most familiar with its voice.

>>24875105
For clarity I'll explain. Please nobody try to dox my stories.
On my first fiction I ran two ads, one after the other with a gap of several weeks in between.
First ad got me 56 follows, second ad got 64 followers according to RR's stats (probably accurate). I could go back and figure out the word/pagecounts but basically I was five and six months into regular posting before I ran the ads. After the second ad, I had enough followers/favorites to get recommended under similarly tagged/liked fictions and I've seen natural follower growth since then.
On my new, writathon fiction I waited until I had 20k words posted to run an ad, and I went from six followers to 1X followers in the last four-five days. My CTR is 50% higher on this third ad so I'm hoping to get about 50% more followers as well, although this fiction is more off-market so maybe I won't.
I won't be doing a second ad since I expect to finish the story before the ad run ends.
As for the ratings, I'm still not getting more just yet. I'm taking that to mean that most people who would rate a story low simply choose not to rate, rather than leave a "negative" rating (like 2 or 3 stars). So I probably need to improve my writing/pacing in the beginning so people feel comfortable dropping five star ratings.
On my first fiction I have about a 10% rating:follower ratio.

Next step after this fiction and getting my free author premium month is going to be editing my first fiction for amazon and building backlog for my next fiction launch, which is going to be a straight isekai with an open ended plot and highly targetted to what RR readers like. Statboxes, action, aura farming, competent MC, all that jazz.

>>24875926
>most people who would rate a story low simply choose not to rate
most of them are pussies, what they do is check if there's an existing low rating and then updoot that.

>>24873350
I like how people on /v/ were shitting on lit RPGs and romance in sword art online today.

>>24875936
>litrpg
It's a niche that mostly appeals to redditors and some zoomies.
>sao
Are they wrong?

>>24875941
Nope but it was refreshing to see people realize SAO is bad cause of the romance and abandonment of its premise and not because some illiterate YouTuber said it's bad because he is afraid of the male character that plays second fiddle to everything else.

>>24875926
How much of those new followers are converting into patreonites, do you have any idea?

I'm writing a litrpg without any spreadsheet content.
I have unlocked the key to RR success.

>>24875390
it is a thing. in theory it's so the jannies can look at the rater's pageview history and delete reviews from people who just flamed you without actually reading the work. in practice they are way too lenient with what qualifies

>>24875736
that's the behavior of the median cn/kr haremslop reader

>>24875948
>abandonment of its premise
What was SAO premise?

>>24875967
This is one of the reasons why the cyberpunk one is so good, gives you progression constantly but only shows a full stat spread like twice in 100 chapters.
(The main reason is just because the story is constantly pushed forward to a new fun scene instead of spending six chapters mid-story on training or some shit)

>>24876044
I almost thought you were talking about mine but no I do linger on random bullshit for chapters at a time so you can't be talking about me

>>24875923
>are the people jerking off to ai chatbots
what. I can get a cute girl anime that talks dirty to me? I mean no bulge female, that kind. (only on the internet would I have to specify that)

>>24876049
"the cyberpunk one" probably means ghost in the city?

>>24875384
>i jacked off so much my penis hurts and
if you use lube before you get the little rugburn spot you can avoid this. Erm, or so I heard. From a friend. Just saying.

>>24875956
Here's some of my stats, only for my first fiction which has advanced chapters. My second, writathon fiction doesn't have explicit patreon advanced chapters and isn't pushing people to profit. My goal is more contest participation, writing practice/experimentation, and to build a broader follower base to feed into my next big project.
Patreon total members:Followers - 0.070
Patreon Paid members:Followers - 0.047
Patreon total members:Favorites - 0.261
Patreon total members:Favorites - 0.174

So I think I'm about average on conversion to patreon, after a year of posting consistently. I think I could have been bigger if I had advertised harder earlier, and if my writing had been better. I never hit RS or anything. So I'm going to really focus on polishing my early chapters and save up for probably three concurrent ads at launch to really try to hit RS.

>>24876064
Yeah, cba to look up the subtitle.
I've only read the big 3 or 4 in the subgenre, I don't really like cyberpunk that much as a setting but it's just a fun read.

>>24875923
ai is surprisngly capable of memory. claude's in particular still remembers 2 characters i didn't mention in more than 16 chapters and even in further along the timeline outline it still lambasts me for not giving the established cast more room in the spotlight and saw me introducing more characters with half-assed rushed arcs (in the outline from its assessment), and that's just with freemium, so it's already getting there and its freemium recharge is far more generous than any others, like a 3hr cooldown. the other models bar copilot suck ass though.

>>24876073
it hurts on the inside

>>24876139
It's like that because it's reading your work, try to get it to write a series and it fucks. I read one on Webnovel where one chapter a character was wearing leggings and the next she was in a skirt even though it was a continuation of the same scene in the same room.

>>24876016
nta
i've never read the actual novelizations but having watched the anime the biggest issue is that it doesn't stick to the game mechanics. As far as the anime goes, the early episode with them using the item explosion animation to fake player death is actually a cool idea that only works because of the setting and is a good use of the premise. The manga has an arc about item scammers also working through the abuse of the game's systems. These are all cool things that draw me into a game world story. Sadly after these chapters/episodes it goes on to just general jackassery about how kirito is an uber hacker that can hack the game or literally just defy mechanics through force of will to do things which fucking sucks.

>>24875692
I think those ____ Girl Evolution faggots deserve 0.5 star reviews for cheating the system.

>>24876173
What was the premise?

>>24876183
the premise was the characters are stuck in a video and if they die in the game they die in real life and kirito cheats his way out of the videogame and then everyone gets freed from the videogame and the story keeps going.
but you knew that.

>>24876198
To me it felt like it was just another ya romance with some sci/fantasy setting.

>>24876198
I disagree, it's more that they would escape the game if they made it to the top, but plot twist, the villain was playing the death game too and they beat him on floor 75 out of 100 with bullshit. That was what ruined the premise.
Beyond the actual game, SAO, is the kernel for the later games, Gun Gale Online, the fairy magic game, and then the simulation from the Alicization arc about making AIs with transplanted human souls.

So the title is the premise: everything is fundamentally about the game system Kayaba (the first villain) made. That's also what makes Accel World a sequel series.

>>24876213
it ended up being that way instead of focusing more on the game stuff, it sucked.

>>24876215
yeah them ending on the 75th floor was really lame but to me it was overshadowed by kirito dying in that fight and just going "nuh uh" to the game system and winning anyway. That pissed me off way more than them not getting to the top.

>>24876231
>overshadowed by kirito dying in that fight and just going "nuh uh" to the game system and winning anyway. That pissed me off way more than them not getting to the top.
Yep, that was extra bullshit. Especially since Kirito HAD AN ITEM that would prevent player death from the christmas event (if I recall correctly). Basically, Kirito should have won by actually being a good gamer, rather than just because.

The GGO arc fixed this for me since they let him fight guns with lightsabers and his skill actually mattered. And Accel World has always been solid in my opinion.

>>24876174
>cheating
you mean using discord shilling and shoutout swapping to get to RS? because i have bad news about the rest of the royalraoad frontpage

>>24876168
Yeah AI memory operates like bucket with a hole in it, once you go over a certain limit it just starts culling older messages.
But even within memory it suffers from not knowing what details are important to bring up again. You can remedy this to a fair degree by giving the bot specific instructions and using context but it's the area where it's much weirder to read than a human writer.

It's why the AI stuff I have read on RR mostly seems to be ESL ideas guys asking it to write scenes they've decided the details for, but even then it forgets stuff it said before (I doubt these lazy cunts are proofreading what they post to remember details)

It's leading to a very funny review trend on RR where people who don't want the author's buddies to dogpile them for accusing them of AI usage will instead say stuff like "seems to forget about characters" to tell anyone reading between the lines that it's an AI story.

>>24876273
is it really most? I kinda assumed it was about half

I read through my AI text with a fine tooth comb because I know about its limitations.

>>24876161
>it hurts on the inside
wow. i'm impressed.

>evil god that doesn't understand human morality attempts to curry favor with the MC by gifting him his own corrupted sister as a slave concubine sisterwife
>he hates it but they still have a sex scene together
didn't expect that to be allowed in a story posted on royalroad. although he is adopted so it's fine

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I wonder if web novels are the only way of trying to make a living with your writing, official editorial stuff certainly seems cucked beyond possibility if you are not a foid or a black gay guy
In that sense, this space might genuinely be the last bastion of maybe producing good stories, although the pace you have to publish chapters certainly doesnt help make that possible

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>>24876488
you can just self-publish full novels

>>24876488
Webnovels are in fact the bleeding edge of literature in current year. Japanese webnovels provide the stories for the majority of manga and anime. Western webnovels allow creativity and uncapped success that the western tradpub market simply cannot (willnot, too, but mainly cannot). There's also chinese and korean webnovels which are very popular.

>>24876561
WRONG
just self-pub a normal novel. There's no need to debase yourself writing wn

>>24876561
>Western webnovels allow creativity and uncapped success
the most financially successful webnovels are far from creative though

>>24874521
Why does the face of the pink hair guy looks so retarded?

>>24876571
his character is naruto but even more retarded

>>24876508
Yeah if you want no one to read them ever

>>24876578
>naruto
>but even more retarded
So he's gay and tried to convince a genocider to stop killing people?
No, im serious, i never saw JJK

>>24876591
Actually yes

>>24876598
>>24876578
... you know, maybe you're into something here
I mean it worked twice, if your novel idea doesn't have a protagonist yet, consider making it a gay retard

>>24876591
I dropped season 1 half way so I am not too sure, from what I remember he literally didn't do anything, he was kind of hanging around and acting confused (more like clueless and yes, even retarded) all the time.

>>24876213
That's the premise of 99.9 of manga, anime and webnovel fiction nowadays, ya romance set in your world of choice (isekai, litrpg, dungeon, modern tokyo, medieval kingdon etc). That is the main issue, the entire genre has become so stale.

>>24876764
>That is the main issue, the entire genre has become so stale.
yet if you attempt to so much as discuss the idea of doing something slightly (or more) different? All you will hear (in this general) is a stream of...
--- nobody wants that!
--- there's a reason the thing that sell, sell, and why nobody else is doing this! you have to do what the market calls for! (IE, do *exactly* what others do, or success is impossible)
"The market is boring. Same stuff over and over." "Oh, cool. I do different stuff." "No! That's stupid!"
>
here's another logic puzzle...
--- tons of anons here. "I only read books before date X."
--- "Hey. I try to write trad paperbacks, think regular book from year x."
--- (laughter, derision, autistic screeching)
>
I want thing X. Hey, I try to make thing X! NOOOOOOOOO!
>
and I kind of stand back and scratch my head, that I'm supposed to be the schizo. *shrugs*

I have tinatroon fatigue

>>24876488
that bout seems to be it. Its just that once you;re here in WN land? You;re only allowed to do "the WN thing". You;re not allowed to do "the (you) thing". I mean you're allowed, but... the feedback here, looking at what is making it on the market... basically scrap whatever you had placed. Pick a popular one, and re-spin it. If you question or argue it, you just get labeled a schizo.

>>24876859
>calls people schizo
>makes actual schizo post
Nobody is laughing at you for wanting to right a "traditional" story, it will just fail. Pale Lights is a huge outlier.
Also all the ideas anons have posted for such stories are themselves genre fiction.

>>24876859
tina-tots...

mogged by RI again...

>>24876871
You don't need permission bruh. Just post what you want. No Spanish Inquisition is going to bust into your house and put you on trial. At worst, you'll be ignored and unpopular.

>>24876859
when have you ever seen ANYONE in this thread post about making a "slightly different" take on anime webnovels

>>24877020
you're the only one still reading the steaming piles of obvious TINA shit

>>24877020
Plenty of those but being slightly different is in fact not enough to differenciate from the rest.

>>24877020
I posted one and it was completely ignored. /wng/ mocks others for wanting the same stuff over and over, but everyone here is the same.

>>24876869
>I have tinatroon fatigue
odd condition. so, you play dress up and wear heels. Instead of doing Liza Minelli you instead do... how you imagine my pen name to look? Weird flex, but hey. Medical question. Is the fatigue from all the feather boa dancing in heels? Or is it a mental fatigue from trying to figure out big boy words.

>>24876873
some dedicated soul on WP read the first volume of my trilogy. Couldn't believe they binged the entire thing over several days. I got the text up for the second volume.

>Whereas, Ælgifu’s eyes were more refined, allowing her to peek at those small ashes—smaller than atoms—but she could also hear them—a haunting vibration, the oldest song Adam had ever sung.
thoughts?

>>24877073
>you're the only one still reading the steaming piles of obvious TINA shit
when I *first* suggested... our own "cabal" there was hell to be paid. When it now comes up generically as an independent idea? "Oh yeah, we don't do that."
>
Its so silly its humorous to me. Do you seriously think I haven't lurked and posted without alerting anyone? Happens all the time. I sat here laughing watching anons accusing other anons of being Tina-anon. I'm flattered, really.

>>24877511
smells like bakkerslop

>>24877511
i like the unexpected addition of hearing the molecule vibrations. And to me there's something classy about using "AE" thing. All taken in... now the "whereas" fits in and doesn't seem forced.
>
thumbs up.

>>24877511
>Ælgifu
>Aelgifu
Why kind of name is that? It's just dumb, using that weird ae makes it eben more dumb.

>>24876508
Dont you need a big name behind it otherwise noone will read it? that seems to be the main problem with self-publish
>>24876561
Theoretically that should be the case but the output doesnt seem to stray outside from what the mainstream likes, maybe inside the most popular titles there are some nuggets of creativity but I havent read much of it yet to say
>>24876871
that seems to be the case, but could also be a self-fulfilled prophecy kind of thing with people seeing what sells and just being afraid of trying new things, instead of trying new things and failing. There is also the possibility that the small amount of people who tries new things just didnt write something that interesting, you never know if its really because its too different or if its lack of writing skill

>>24877532
her name is elf gf and that is the joke.

I know this might be a random question, but with your stories, how do you keep them engaging?

I've already written a couple of stories, but they were planned from start to finish, and everything in the plot had a clear purpose. However, in web novels, it feels like random elements are added that don't really serve the main story.

Do we literally need to add a cliffhanger or keep edging the reader on every chapter, like in Shadow Slave?

>>24877928
>it feels like random elements are added that don't really serve the main story.
the fluff is part of the appeal

>Do we literally need to add a cliffhanger or keep edging the reader on every chapter, like in Shadow Slave?
it's one strategy that a specific type of web novel does. lots of popular stories don't do this

>>24876394
Is the sister used goods or was she just brainwashed?

>>24878000
half brainwashed. she was turned into a vampire, lost her humanity & morality and killed her own father in front of him but a vestige of her old personality remains
story is blood & fur by voidherald btw

>>24877928
You don't necessarily need cliffhangers, but on the other hand, you need to end strong, and a cliffhanger is one way to achieve that. End a chapter on a reveal, on a "line that goes hard", on a promise that what follows is gonna be even better. Put a gun to your readers' heads and force them to keep reading.

>>24877928
>but with your stories, how do you keep them engaging?
i don't, I just write what I think is cool

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I took twenty methylene blue to write better combat scenes but now the the seizures are starting to surface bros

>>24877928
>with your stories, how do you keep them engaging?
I've stopped worrying about that. Every time I think "this is fucking boring, nothing's really happening, they will hate this," it ends up being really well received and gets compliments even from those who normally say nothing. And when I post a chapter that I think is a highlight and one of my favorite parts, it's just "tftc"

>>24878179
this, exactly this
chapter i worked my ass off on and think is one of my best? >thanks for chapter
random chapter i tossed together just to hit wordcount for the day?
>THIS IS FIRE COOK YOUR SHIT WORDSMITH

>>24878179
>>24878181
Consumers always have lower standards than producers for their work. At some point they reach a breakthrough of sunk cost where even middling chapters keep them excited more. Take a manga like Berserk which has been stuck on subpar chapters over the last decade but you can't wait to read what comes next because you've already developed high rapport with the characters to offset the bad pacing.

>>24878188
I dropped Berserk like 15 years ago tho

>>24878197
Yeah you missed... 4% of the story so far

>>24878188
Do you seriously keep reading Berserk after Miura finally got isekai'd into idolmaster?

>>24878213
The old man had actually finished the story and gave his close assistants the full draft before being assassinated by Bandai, but they couldn't bother writing that into a full novel at once and are still milking chapters, so the monkey's paw is that while the characters still move according to the canon, they're stuck on the same "waiting skeleton" schedule and being drawn more amateurish than before. An eternal reminder that it would have been finished decades earlier had it been a light novel first

>>24878273
10 chapters of guts in the retard void box at least

>>24877928
>don't really serve the main story.
They don't have to. Most readers won't notice or remember and the ones that do will think it's some kind of foreshadowing or mysterybox and then eventually they'll connect it thematically or narratively to something that happens much later in the story even if the author didn't intend it.

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Any webnovels where the MC is a parent?

>>24878632
No thanks, those are garbage. I read to self insert and go on an adventure, not for retarded married with kids life.

>>24878632
There's the system apocalypse one with the mom and shes trying to build a safe community for her kids to live in. Forgot the name
For JP there's "My Quiet Blacksmith Life in Another World" which is slice of life

>>24878632
lots of jp stuff if you like incest

>>24878632
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/128121/critical-roleplay-i-min-maxed-for-endgame-not
Everyone's least favorite part in the daughter though

>>24874822
This sounds funny but if you're writing for Royal Road your audience is half retarded bugmen that can only read one kind of story and nothing else. I'm almost certain that DCC only got popular because people outside of the usual goycattle webnovel audience found out about it.

>>24877928
beats me. i can't even get people to read a finished 7 chapter short story.

>>24878695
That's too short to read. Almost all contemporary readers have an aversion to short fiction.

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>>24878725
you don't say

>>24878745
I find it strange because I read a lot of short fiction. It seems to be near universal though. Almost no anthology makes any money regardless. Some collections from a few authors can get some popularity, but it's very rare. It's just much more evident with modern serials.

>>24878622
everyone's different. I used to do "filler" but heard a explanation I liked. Why do filler, which is pillow ticking. Instead, do little micro side plots. Example. To fill, maybe between two chapter must haves there's a wait. I used to maybe send MC to the store, perhaps. But with a tiny side plot (that goes nowhere) you now have a tiny story within the chpter. It breaks it up, it shifts gears. A plot that's "too linear" point A to point B is predictable and easily guessed. When you pepper these little side plots in the reader doesn't know which of the will *later* become important. I mean a painter wants you to see thing X but the painter also has other things as well. ONE of those might be important.
>
after I got used to this, I found myself putting tiny side plots in on editing passes, for foreshadowing. WHen the reder finally gets the "big reveal", they now kick themselves. this was hinted at several times, right in their face, they didn't see it.
>
Foreshadowing... when my MC in one big project was going to die at the end and drive the co-MC into the final stage of "big character development". I realized I already *had* a number of jokes he had made all along without realizing it, so on editing passes I added more.
"Oh, its hell hitting these years". (being funny)
Commenter: "Christ, he's 24."
Another? "Aw, I'll have plenty of time to sleep when I'm dead."
"I'd sooner die than let this shit continue."
"I swear, I'd trade my life just for the chance to get my hands around the throat of whoever did this."
"No. I'm gonna see this through, even if it kills me."
etc etc etc.
On a later read after a long break, I realized how more foreshadowed his tragedy death was.
"Cat's named Emmy. Is that for Emma, or is the cat like the hollywood award, the Emmy."
"Not Emmy, letter M, letter E..."
"The hell's that?"
"ME, Medical examiner? You know, cat's rip things apart. He's my little medical examiner."
>
you can come up with a lot over time after enough projects under your belt. There's ore than just your prose and dialog chops you're getting batter at. Looming and weaving the plot is (to me) an acquired skill.

>>24878041
As I'm writing first draft on a chapter, I sometimes feel like one of those definitive one sentence things would go nice here. When I really like one, I can take it out and save it.

>>24877532
to each his own. to me, it rings "classic" sounding.

>>24878794
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_orthography

>>24878725
Almost all contemporary readers are shit.

>>24879117
My readers are all based and have excellent taste, except for the whiners and low raters. They're shit. But on the whole, my readers are good folk.

>>24877511
What's gonna happen to my wife K-Man, be honest.

>soul searching Spectral Soul Demon Venerable
nice "wisdom" path attainment
what a jobber

Does Sky Pride ever tone down the wink-wing nudge-nudge genre references, it feels like it's half that and half actual story, at least early on.

>>24879353
Not up until the point I read.

>>24879353
eeh I don't think its too bad past the cave section

sffg is dead again lol

>>24879586
Weird. Couple of books came out recently that I'd figure would inspire some discussion. The new Empire of the Vampire book, the sequel to Will of the Many.

>>24877928
Conflict.

>>24879607
Should be renamed to Malazan/Bakker general

Did the writathon produce anything good?

>>24879675
It's not even over yet, dog.

I like visual novels

>>24879682
Most webnovels aren't over yet and we can still rate them, yes?

I've been reading some western xianxia recently and it leaves me a little disappointed. I like that the characters are more reasonable and that the world building and character interactions make more sense, but the protagonists are always just too nice. They don't take what they want even if nobody would begrudge them for it. It just makes the story feel hollow.

>>24876269
>>24876231
>>24876215
SAO's game parts are pretty impressive to me considering it was written in 2001 for a writing contest in 2002. It predates basically all the big name MMOs except Lineage 1 (and maybe RuneScape). We haven't really had many action combat MMOs that are somewhat like SAO in boss fighting in all this time. Maybe Blade & Soul and Lost Ark fit, but mostly it's been tab targeting MMOs where you stand in place spamming your rotation.

>>24876570
The Martian is pretty financially successful considering the movie based on the story has made $600 million.

>>24876269
>Yep, that was extra bullshit. Especially since Kirito HAD AN ITEM that would prevent player death from the christmas event (if I recall correctly).
That was written after the fact. If anything it's the anime's fault for not fixing the plothole even though it adapted the stories chronologically.

>>24879731
That's because just randomly murdering and robbing people to get slightly stronger doesn't actually make sense.
Xianxia only works because enemies behave like they're in a video game where pissed off clans fight the heroes in a series of 1v1s instead of just getting proper retribution.

Sword Art Online Progressive exists.

>>24879855
>Xianxia only works because enemies behave like they're in a video game where pissed off clans fight the heroes in a series of 1v1s
maybe in the dogshit slop (you) read
not in RI

>>24879857
Roadrunner Insanity because he always miraculously avoids death when he shouldn't

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>>24879861
nuh uh

>>24879607
Those books are frequently mentioned over on /sffg/ considering it's full of normalfags who only read normalfag shit.

>>24879881
Focus , RI-tard
That's what the anon you quoted is saying. /sffg/ was dead for some hours even though they had new books to talk about.

>everyone is RI poster
schizo-kun...

>>24879607
Will of the Many was shite, but most of the thread didn't seem to think that at the time.
Funny book to read if you're familiar with trends because it's a much more cynical attempt to make money than the average box ticking RR litrpg

>>24879927
Are you the anon who had the extended arguments about how terrible it was that went on for a long time over many posts that were very lengthy?

>>24879927
I couldn't help comparing it to PGtE.
The first 2/3rds were meh but I enjoyed the last part a lot and am waiting for my copy of the 2nd book.

Also , kinda funny we are talking about tradbooks here and /sffg/ are wanking over Morrowind.

>>24879959
/sffg/ is the /vr/ of /lit. We're more like the /v/.

>>24879855
I don't mean that. In talking about MC being showered in beauties and all that and he just doesn't partake. Drinks tea with them they somehow makes them more enamored with him.
Same with loot and other things. They just leave it all and somehow it all works out anyway.

>>24879949
No. I posted about it being bad in one thread ever.

>>24879675
Where is the statistics anon? It'd be cool to see a ranking of the 1500 writathon participants and see which ones popped off and which ones were clearly cheating (like 20 novels were featured as having 25k words written in the first hour).

>>24879759
Ahh, I kinda suspected that. I've read the novels and watched the anime, but it was over a decade ago, and I knew there was some stuff that was adapted out of order...

>>24879748
Everquest?
Yeah, Reki is certainly pretty imaginative. It's a damn shame SAO popped off so hard and he got typecast into doing nothing but that for dosh for so long (also he should be a multi-millionaire if he's not already, but I doubt he's getting royalties for the anime or merch).

>>24879855
What is your dislike of xianxia based on? Because you clearly have not read a single xianxia novel? Do you just hate the Chinese and everyone and everything related to them?

>>24878632
Ar'Kendrithyst. Daughter runs off to be an adventurer exploring the cursed city while pov character dad just sits around in town fucking around with magic spells

>>24880133
I've read more of them than you.
The fundamental problem with most of them is incredibly juvenile authors.

>>24880092
I'm entirely uninterested in the writathon. You could try asking this person if they have any interest in doing so. They did 1 year follow up stats.
https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/s/EIRH4kB7k2

Last 2 series i've tried:

> He Who Fights With Monsters
- Preachy ass MC
- Unrealistic for 23 yo
- Boring progression
- I hate the way it's written, it's like a historical recount, has no emotion in the writing.
- dropped after mc get saved by some god after 3 books, since it had no stakes at that point.

> Beneath the dragoneye moons
- Liked the system
- Liked it till the timeskip
- After the timeskip it goes off the rails, MC gets in a relationship with someone completely incompatible only because they are horny for each other, the next 100 chapters is about them living le happy life together when in real-life it would be the perfect case of lesbian domestic abuse.
- MC makes herself into some kind of inhuman abomination that only looks like a human with biomancy, even though she was pretty clear on wanting to be human when reincarnating.
- MC changes gender of confused kid with biomancy without parental consent and it's written as a good thing.
- I hate MCs partner. Iona is super unlikeable.
- Dropped at chapter 460, no point reading LitRPG turned juvenile unrealistic romance without progression.

Anyway please send me some LitRPG recs.

Thinking of publishing my nearly complete fantasyslop on RR. Does anyone on here get others to critique or edit their shit first? Or do they just reread, say “good enough,” and slap it out to the public?

>>24880280
Seems like some authors pivot to what they actually wanted to write after baiting an audience with typical RR fare.

>>24880280
Player 0.4
Read it for the worldbuilding. Progression takes some time until it gets going.
Bare in mind: it's not what the blurb says. It starts as a murder mystery.

>>24880280
>- Unrealistic for 23 yo
fuck man I'm gonna be 24 in a few days
it's over

>>24880300
I don't even care about worldbuilding, I care more about interpersonal relationships and progression.

>>24873350
I need good chinkslop to read

>>24880328
>interpersonal relationships
Yes, kinda. It's fantasy mobster family but the MC starts clueless.
>progression
Takes time and is asymmetrical. Not it's main sell point

Better skip it then , sorry

>>24880280
>like BTDEM
Azarinth Healer. It's an upgrade on the things you mentioned with a bit choppier grammar and prose, at least the webnovel version. I haven't read the edited, published versions yet but I assume they fix that (and remove some """problematic""" early material, which I forget what it was; something to do with sex I think).
Some that I'm reading now that I think you might like:
The Pinnacle Warrior
Cat Girl Evolution
and it's a bit of a stretch, but if you don't mind grim, gore, and insanity: 1% Lifesteal.

>>24880294
>Or do they just reread, say “good enough,” and slap it out to the public?
I do this, because holy shit nobody I know reads. It's sad. I've got family begging to buy my book on amazon (despite me having a copy in hand to give to them for free), but they do NOT want to read it.

Ideally you'd get someone read it and critique it and point out typos you missed but the hurdle is just too high.

Anyway if you want to be successful keep in mind the market on RR and study the precepts.

>>24880389
yeah someone recommended me Azarinth Healer but others said it has a lot of pointless hookups which i kind of am averse to. Though i managed to ignore it somewhat recently, might actually try it.

It's kinda why i don't like Iona, she's a shameless slut that was banging a new person every day at magic school.

>>24880403
Selkie is known for writing his political views into BTDEM and it's always jarring, which sucks because the world and Elaine are somewhat interesting. Song of the Gift-Giver has proven that it was luck that BTDEM started so good and remained good for as long as it did.

AH doesn't do that, which is nice. If anything the biggest problem is that later arcs get a little repetitive, but at least they're entertaining to read chapter to chapter. And the ending is more satisfying than BTDEM's though you didn't get that far. As for the pointless hookups, maybe that's what was removed? I don't recall much sex or relationships at all in later arcs.

If you want relationships, Taste of Magic has a somewhat tasteful romantic relationship. But it's a very slow paced story.

>>24880438
One thing though - Azarinth healer MC fights with fists right? I read like first few chapters and she did kickboxing or something. Fighting with fists is just not interesting at all.

>>24880473
So she's a healer, right?
But she can due typeless damage with negative healing based on contact, because her class is broken/OP (but kinda balanced because it's a dead cult and other reasons).
She also gets fire powers.
The fights aren't uninteresting, at least in my opinion.

>>24880521
>More "healer that doesn't actually heal" slop

>>24880345
bump

I hit Rising Stars.

>>24880599
link?

>>24880599
Time to 0.5 star everything that's on the rising stars list.

Nihilistic griefing is alive and well in /wng/. The Internet Hate Machine now can only turn on itself.

>>24880665
It was just banter.

I 0.5 star all my competitors. Anything for benefits.

>>24880627
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/134237/ten-thousand-tragedies-xianxia-timeloop

If my rating starts dipping any time in the next five months I'm blaming you fuckers.

>>24880702
Is this wuxia or xianxia? You have xianxia in the title but the description says its a wuxia/murim work... Senior...

>>24880627
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/139081/int-is-my-dump-stat

The other guy is pretending to be me

>>24880709
It's wuxia but I'm calling it xianxia for broader appeal.

>>24880712
>RS in a week with 8 chapters
The next MysteriousBeat is here

>>24880712
this is a relaunch right

>>24880756
should have just read the description or checked profile but i saw the title and had deja vu
what prompted the relaunch?

>>24880756
This is probably the first time I've seen a relaunch actually succeed
>>24880759
Checking their patreon posts from the past few months they didn't like that that they toned down the "bimbo" characterization to reach a more general audience and that's why they slowed down and went on hiatus. They probably decided to relaunch and stick to the original vision.

>>24880558
Bro she heals all the time. Mainly herself, but also other people and bystanders.
Azarinth Healer is totally worth checking out.

>>24880599
>>24880702
Congratulations man! That's awesome!
I'll read and rate on my alt account.

>>24880783
>Checking their patreon posts from the past few months they didn't like that that they toned down the "bimbo" characterization to reach a more general audience and that's why they slowed down and went on hiatus. They probably decided to relaunch and stick to the original vision.
That's a good idea if they decide to do it but I've been burned two times on known trans authors and frankly I'm not giving them a second chance.

>>24880294
I couldn't get wng to even read my wip whenever I posted it. I gave up and just slapped it on clanker claude's digital desk and told him to analyze and provide feedback, and it did, in the most brutal no holds back way possible, didn't even ask it to be a bully but it did. quite possibly the closet you'll pretty much get to having anything remotely close to a thinking machine let alone a a human brain piloting a flesh mech read anything you write.

>>24880733
You're a pig of the highest order sir

>>24880818
I don't read femc slop

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>>24880881

is it femc if the mc is a woman in sexual characteristics only?

>>24880948
as far as readers are concerned yeah
write it like a man if it's got tits a pussy xy chromosomes and she/her pronouns it's femc

>>24880399
I’ve been trying to get my friends to check it out, but yeah, they just don’t fucking read.
>oh I’ll check it out man :)
>oh sorry haven’t felt like it/I forgot, I’ll get to it soon I promise
And they never do. Dammit, just tell me you don’t want to, or it sucks or something, being brushed off for MONTHS is the WORST. Maybe I’ll just use Claude like the other anon suggested.

>>24881056
Personally I saw this coming and told them straight up if they don't want a copy I won't force it on them, and if they don't want to read it it's cool, I get that nobody reads.
I mean, I read at least four hours a day, but most people read less than a paragraph a day, total.
I was actually pleasantly surprised that two family members did read the book, and said they liked it. Of course they didn't have any useful feedback but that's okay. I have my friends on /wng/ and RR to talk to.

>>24881056
I would never let anyone I that knows me know that I write websloppas

>>24881056
>>24881068
Give them a copy of Reverend Insanity.

>>24879731
why do western xianxias lack the blatant racial supremacy and dynamics prevalent in eastern xianxias?

>>24880881
based

>>24880345
>ascension through skills

>>24881183
because it's extreme wrongthink in the western neoliberal democracy mythos
whitey bad, whitey must humiliate himself, whitey is amalek for resisting the jew so whitey must be subverted and raped body and soul out of existence

the authors' western viewpoint and morality gets applied to the story even if it's supposed to be fantasy china

>>24881232
for me it's mexican orcs

>>24880881
Gay

>>24880280
Being able to explain what you like and dislike is more than most can do. If you would, please elaborate on what "progression" means to you personally and what makes it good, bad, boring, or exciting.

>>24881232
99% of authors are cucks that are too afraid to challenge the status quo of "meta" webnovels. If you can't even muster the courage to write something vaguely original, challenging popular morality is completely unthinkable.

Unlike GZR, of course.

>>24881248
Not exactly lit, but I love Aztec Lizardmen.

All FeMCs are worthless whores except mine.

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>>24881584
Same

>>24881083
was FY really driven to become the bugman he became as a result of living in the Gu World for 500 years?

would he still remain the moral 1st life FY if he got isekai’d to a kinder world?