Is this the philosophy of Middle School teachers?>don't beat up your bully bro wtf?? he's clearly suffering and is projecting his insecurities and stuff>bully literally has high confidence, high sociability, liked by most>he doesn't even remember or care about the incident>he prefers if his victims kill themselves, whether he's aware or not he's doing naturally selected behavior>often live MUCH better lives than their victims>will die surrounded by women and loved onesYOU are biologically wired to murder him so he doesn't bear the fruit of his moral crimes. This is how it has gone before civilization, when we lived in tribes. The internalized negativity you feel that's eating you from inside and out is because you are not acting on this impulse. Even if it comes at the price of your life, you must do what is biologically imperative. Nothing else will assuage your hunger for primal justice. Side note: Sasuke Uchiha is one of the most well written fictional characters in the history of literature, only understood by those who were wronged beyond redemption. He sacrificed his humanity, his vices, his lust, for the greater good of the planet by ridding it of his evil brother.
>>24875480Mfer did you even watch the show? Hate doesn't make you strong, friends make you strong. It's 600 episodes of the incredible hulk musical. And Buddhism has 84,000 teachings I'm sure you can find one that ends with you not having naked daydreams about your bully like Naruto.
>>24875532Show me a bullied victim who has reached more success than their bully and I'll show you a liar.
>>24875749Theit success is in the metaphysical realm :p
>>24875480Christianity says you should love your bully and forgive him even if he keeps beating you up
>>24875480buddhist monks are ripped and train martial arts though
>>24875480>you must do what is biologically imperativetry it and see what happens. the point of dealing with hate, anger, envy and these other negative emotions is that you can't act them out in a society unless you are willing to accept the penalties. that's exactly the reason why sub-zero IQ types fill the prisons. they aren't able to foresee the consequences of their actions.
>>24876177>the point of dealing with hate, anger, envy and these other negative emotions is that you can't act them out in a society unless you are willing to accept the penaltiesWhich says more so about the flaws of civilization than the people who've acted on primal righteousness.
>>24877716There are no flaws in a prosperous high-trust civilization sealing away worthless animals like you.
>>24875480Buddhism is gu-heeey!
>>24875749I was the smart kid in a school full of retards. I left them all behind in my shithole home town.I don't know what the fuck happened to them, but life chances in that area are pretty bleak. Personally, I had a successful career and retired aged 49.
>>24877745>high-trust civilizationYou think that's what we've got today? LMAO.
>>24875480The problem is that you're making up a false reality and this false reality is making you angry.You've invented a character who does not exist and you're applying characteristics to them as if they actually exist, and as if these made-up characteristics are evidence of anything.The truth is that, when examining a real bully, you do not know what caused the bully to act the way that they act; you do not know how the bully feels even if they outwardly project another way; you do not know what the bully thinks will make him happy; you do not know what the bully's future will be; you do not know how the bully will die.>The internalized negativity you feel that's eating you from inside and out is because you are not acting on this impulse.No, the internalized negativity you feel is the evolutionary tendency toward thoughtless violence which we don't need anymore in a civilized society.Animals evolved to experience fear and anger so they could react to threats without thinking about it first. Human beings are animals by nature, but we are separated from animals by our ability to reason.Our ancestors would kill eachother just because their pride was hurt. We have no need to do this anymore.You live a happier and more productive life if you examine your emotions and your impulses, understand them as irrational biological functions, culminate those that are wanted, and practice to leave behind those that are unwanted.I used to be incredibly angry and jealous but I realized that if I stopped feeling angry I'd feel good. So I stopped being angry and now I feel good.That's what Buddhism is.
>>24875480>be me arguing with on again off again ex gf>she disrespectfully tells me off about my financial hardest times where I was unemployed that Im just a lazy piece of shit>"this is just a reality check duh!">"waiter! Check please! This is the last time we are speaking and I am ever paying for you">drop her off at home in silence>she texts me im the worst person ever for like 20 repetitive paragraphs that shes going to block me>another day passes>"i swear im blocking you!"If she was hot, the right thing to do would be"Yes honey my bad"
>>24879213what does this have to do with buddhism
Sutra male grindsetThe story of Venerable Kaccāna (Mahā-Kaccāna) and his former wife, Kāli (sometimes called Kāḷī or Bhaddā-Kāḷī in variant tellings).The short, stone-cold version from the Theragāthā commentary:Kaccāna leaves lay life, becomes an arahant.Years later his ex-wife (now remarried) spots him on alms round.She’s furious he “abandoned” her and starts screaming in the street:“You heartless monk! You left me with nothing! You care more for your bowl than your own wife!”Kaccāna doesn’t flinch. He keeps walking, eyes down, perfectly silent.She follows, yelling louder, throwing dirt, trying everything to get a reaction.He never breaks stride, never turns, never speaks a word.Eventually she exhausts herself and storms off.The Buddha later praises him:“Well done, Kaccāna. Even when reviled, you did not revile in return. This is the patience of an arahant.”
>>24879230BuddhamSaranamGachami
>>24879256I cannot believe the same guy who acts like a stone cold chud with the ladies is also telling dudes to roll over LIKE A BITCH to all hostility. It strikes me as incongruent as hell.
>>24879268Buddha never killsJust use psychic powers and walk on water if someone tries to fight you, manFighting back is a sin
>>24875480Shaolin monks practiced martial arts specifically because self defense doesnt conflict with buddhism. Stopping a person from engaging in harm isnt against metta. It is against metta when done gratuitously. Stopping the threat vs indulging in revenge
>>24875749Napoleon
>>24879270There is no such thing as "sin" in Buddhism. That's like implying the existence of karma in Christianity.Actions don't matter as much as the intent does. In Buddhism, one is forbidden from killing, but killing is permissible when the intent is not to kill (for example, when one walks on the grass and kills an insect he is not aware of) or to prolong the life of oneself and the lives of others (for example, slaughtering animals for meat in an area where cultivating crops is difficult and a vegetarian lifestyle is not viable; historically, Tibet is a majority Buddhist nation which has an extremely large number of meat-eaters for this very reason. Even the Buddha ate meat, also.)If you fight with the intent to cause someone harm, your bad intentions will result in bad karma.If you fight in self-defense with the intent to protect yourself and especially to protect others, your neutral or good intentions won't result in bad karma.It is understood in Buddhism that only very highly-realized bhikkhus, due to their minimal attachment to their own sense of pain, can live in such a way that they would allow other people to harm them instead of fighting back or running away. It is understood that typical bhikkus would still try to protect themselves, let alone lay-practitioners who aren't dedicated to life in a monastery.TL;DR don't go out of your way to hurt people, don't seek out vengeance, fight back if it's necessary but do so mindfully and without malice. Like >>24879274 said.
>>24876078You play too much D&D
>>24879248can you post the source? it's itneresting because elsewhere you hear about kaccana's wife getting raped all the time when she joined a different cult and then she ends up becoming a buddhist nun
>>24879348it is only a tiny subsection of buddhist monks (namely the shaolin monks) who are fighting monks. the vast majority pursue nonviolence and will walk away from a fight
>>24876078>>24879355They can get pretty big.>>24879395I know, but it's still an example of real practicing Buddhists.
>>24879398when you see them that big it's because they just ordained a few days ago. in theravada countries they are doing that all the time, sometimes for funeral-related reasons (making merit for their deceased parents).if the monk is working out, that is actually against the vinaya and they will be in trouble with the authorities.
>>24879150I don't see how 'feeling good' is better than 'feeling bad' outside of whatever irrational biological functions drive my assessment.
>>24879425Can tibetan monks work out? I've seen pictures of some of them with long hair, beards, sneakers and sometimes even watches. It seems to me that they stick to a laxer version of the vinaya.
>>24879150>irrational biological functionsYou're denying your impulses which means denying yourself. You make it seem as if it's so simple. Go a decade without ejaculating or any kind of sexual activity whatsoever.. emotions will always be irrational. We are fundamentally irrational beings. You don't wish away emotions or vices. Not even Buddha advocates for suppressing your emotions, merely observing. The only way to assuage primal injustice is to retaliate with primal justice.
>>24879150uhh I've had multiple bullies exclaim they pick on weaker guys because it's funny. nothing to do with insecurities or wishful idealistic buddhist bullshit.
Impermenence, nothing else matters in buddhism besdies impermenance, the bully and bullied are both impermanent, the bully will not bully forever, the bullied will not be tormented forever, qhoever says otherwise is under delusion.
>>24880298>the bullied will not be tormented foreverExplain all the mental problems that bullied victims go through in adulthood?
>>24880301a human lifespan is not forever, whatever pain or other sensations will only be felt for the duration of that lifetime. i am not deflecting i am merely stating the obvious, the lifespan of a single organism is short, even a human, compared to cosmic time scales.
>>24880317>whatever pain or other sensations will only be felt for the duration of that lifetimeOkay so the one life those victims only know will be complete shit until they die, naturally or by suicide, got it. Kek, buddhism is fairytale bullshit. Bet those victims will be sleeping peacefully for decades to come if they gave those shitbags who tormented them the the time of day.
>>24875480>mentions NarutoStudy and read Adi Shankara. Thats it.
>>24880379Gaudapada(his Teacher) was allegedly a Buddhist tho
>>24880269>Go a decade without ejaculating or any kind of sexual activity whatsoeverI did, I stopped jerking off in 2014.>Not even Buddha advocates for suppressing your emotions, merely observing.Observing them and then watching as they go away on their own. I never said suppress them.
>>24880301The more I learn about Buddhism, the more I hate it and see that it's clearly a cult. Nobody acknowledges this part, really. Bullied people get fucked forever, and bullies are scum who never apologize or realize they did anything wrong.
>>24875480>Side note: Sasuke Uchiha is one of the most well written fictional characters in the history of literature, only understood by those who were wronged beyond redemption. He sacrificed his humanity, his vices, his lust, for the greater good of the planet by ridding it of his evil brotherNEVER post on this board again dumb NARUTARD
>YOU are biologically wired to murder him so he doesn't bear the fruit of his moral crimes. Antinomian sects of Vajrayana Buddhism advocates for this. Kept secret, a sufficiently advanced practitioner can seer into the soul of a person, and if said person has enough bad karma and is an evildoer, they are told to kill them.This is extreme, and antinomian sects are not orthodox by any means, but it is a glimpse of the diversity within buddhismAs for the case against the bully, you should absolutely stand up for yourself, but that should not come from an emotional reaction, but rather a mindful response in which you are controlled. Do you think a Shaolin monk will allow himself to be bullied? No. On national level, look at Myanmar and the 969 movement. The whole genocide there is a sham, a bunch of bangladeshi muslims decided that a bit of Myanmar is theirs, and the buddhists didnt give a fuck, and went apeshit crazy and killed them. Islamists were shocked, not because of the genocide, rather that the peace loving buddhists refused to accept submission
>>24881327Vajrayana is interesting in generalI wish I could learn more about chinese buddhist branches but the cultural revolution happened
>>24883153Vajrayana is woo; Mahayana is all you need.
>>24883213Why mahayana
>>24879348How come most of the Buddhists I talk to say suicide in the form of euthanasia is still unacceptable/will lead to a lower rebirth in cases of e.g. untreatable schizophrenia or physical agony?
>>24884185why do you care what they think? the buddha himself did not even belive in reincarnation. why should you? are you a hindu?
