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Post /his/ + /lit/ book recommendations

Books that are fiction but still hold /his/topical value are also appreciated
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>>24880497
I'm a sucker for all things relating to the Irish Troubles. This is fantastic
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>>24880497
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>>24880497
I liked “And the Band Played On” as a a history of the early AIDS epidemic. There were some inaccuracies but on the whole it was a good read
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Reading Days of Rage rn and it’s surprisingly hilarious, just a bunch of white/jewish college kids larping as john brown and che and getting into fist fights with each other over whether they should say “power to the people” or “power to the workers” and if killing honky babies is a revolutionary act. Although it is less amusing when you realize these are exactly the types who got jobs in politics and academia after their little youthful escapades were forgotten
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>>24880718
Bunch of rich trust fund commies.
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>>24880718
Is it though? I mean I guess when you start subjecting babies to class analysis you've lost the plot a little. Are the bones going to be used to make, like, maracas for the working class street mariachis or what?
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>>24880497
Just finished this.

I reviewed it:
>Ah, Juan Posadas, real name: Homero Cristalli. Through the 40s into the 70s, he became a myth who's entire sect of extreme Trotskyists centered around nuclear war, UFOs and dolphins. However, it seems to be what his undoing was his imperfect human nature, something Karl Marx denied there ever was, since individualism was the opposite of socialism and we cannot blame the actions of a whole on a single person. If I fail, perchance, we all fail, etc. Posadas became the very thing that he disdained, becoming on the level of a Joseph Stalin, who killed his mentor Leon Trotsky, in cold blood. From rubbing shoulders with Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, to the increasing entryism (a tactic Trotskyists use to infiltrate parties in order to subvert them) and sectarianism - J. Posadas, as Cristalli came to be known, always supported the most capitalist Fascists he could (especially Pinochet in his native Argentina). This was very similar to the accelerationism favored by certain leftist militants that believed that by ever-increasing inequality and bureaucracy, the suffering brought down would awaken the proletariat to rebel in mass numbers against their capitalist owners. Unfortunately for Posadas, his own selfishness caught up to him, having sex with the wives of party members and expelling party members who didn't agree to his increasing wild worldviews involving aliens and Transhumanist claptrap, not to mention his belief that nuclear war would wipe out the last vestiges of capitalism. This became such a problem he ended up replacing a majority of his original party at the end of his life. And as such when he finally died he ended up with few friends. However his beliefs still live on in what we term as "internet memes" and on the fringes of UFO "Fortean culture", edgy young people who grapple with the meaninglessness of their humdrum lives with visions of nuclear apocalypse, fusions with animals and plant life and visits by those from above, much like the Christian eschatology of the second coming. Considering its roots are Marxist you would think it would never entertain such dogmatic and quasi-religious frameworks but for a brief window in 1940s-1970s Argentina, Marxism basically became religious. Didn't Eric Voeglin warn about this? Four stars.
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>>24880718
Its very disconcerting that the majority of people who want to liberate the poor from the clutches of the rich are rich themselves. Very "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" vibes.
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>Rebels and Redcoats: The American Revolution Through the Eyes of Those Who Fought and Lived It

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/396162.Rebels_and_Redcoats
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>>24881427
I'm gonna try and attempt this next year along with Seeing Like A State
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>>24881197
I keep running into a particularly insidious type of revisionism, the "Think of the children" revisionism. It is stated repeatedly by disguised fascist, royalist, and liberals LARPing as communist on our board, and, misusing the concept of empathy that ruling class children can be re-educated and, failing that, sent to a labour camp. Let me be perfectly clear, the brats of the petite bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie, and of the aristocracy can not be "rehabilitated" or "re-educated" under any circumstances. They must all be liquidated alongside their inbred-paedophile-worker-hating parents. It is not the duty of the dictatorship of the proletariat to waste precious and limited resources attempting to coddle and re-educate children who, in 99.9% of circumstances, will grow up to be exactly like their parents. To secretly harbour counter revolutionary opinions and collaborate amongst themselves to foment bourgeois counter revolution. I don't care that they're in diapers, you put a bullet in their fucking head. Morality is NOT real, it is a theistic bourgeois construct regarding property relations. It does not matter if this is "good" or "bad." You put the bullet in the bourgeois babies brain, or he will grow up to kill you and everyone you love and destroy everything you fought for. Do you understand? If not, you are a liberal, a fascist, a royalist, and you ought to be hung by your genitals from the nearest lamppost. You are not a comrade, you are a coward, and vermin to be exterminated alongside the ruling class, their children, their pets, and their lickspittle servants. This isn't a question of "nurture vs nature" either, this is a question of risk mitigation and victory maximisation. I am not "weird" or a "freak" or "hate children" for understanding this. When the time comes I don't care if it's your local laundromat owner, I don't care if it's a guy running a hot dog stand, he is bourgeois! You will execute the entire family, or you will be executed alongside them. The pest, the maids, it doesn't matter. Kill, kill, kill!"
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>>24881599
You're a funny guy
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>>24881599
...so that's a yes on the bones as maraca fillings?
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One of the very best books I've ever read
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Carlyle's History of the French Revolution
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>>24881599
Glory to the Revolution, comrade Bergstein! Kill the wh*te babies!
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>>24880497
There is No Freedom Without Bread
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Russia As It Is
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>>24881599
Holy based
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This book I think should get more attention from the Middle Eastern or Indo-European studies. For a book targeted towards a general audience, Lincoln tries something new in Achaemenid studies by analyzing the empire's art and ideology based on Indo-European backgrounds and Zoroastrian texts, instead of the usual Mesopotamian or Greek sources.
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Twelve Who Ruled
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>>24881599
>Morality is NOT real, it is a theistic bourgeois construct regarding property relations.
Can the FBI pay this pedophile a visit? Thanks.
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You cocksuckers post the exact same titles in every thread.
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Pic rel gives a good look into the white nationalist and militia movements of the 80s and 90s
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>>24881599
Sounds like that Islamist revolutionary who concluded that everyone but himself could legitimately be killed.
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>>24883079
Post something new then instead of complaining
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>>24881739
What makes it so good?
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>>24883089
I find the subject matter fascinating but I'm put off by how hard this book is shilled on here
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>>24880497
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>>24880497
good books on the history of technology? particularly specific devices?
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>>24883936
NTA but it's a legitimately enthralling book, it's just shilled here because it's easily digestible but is under the mainstream radar. It's gotten a lot more popular online in the last couple of years.
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>>24883301
Fredrick's character and story is just fantastic. Nietzsche called him the first European Man for a reason.

It's also pretty well translated, so it's fun to read.
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>>24883936
Its good.
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>>24884002
C. J. Chivers The Gun. Marketed as about the AK and has a a lot about it but also has a history of automatic weapons to set the scene. I really liked it.
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Page 10 bump!
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This is a good 'after Charlemagne' book. Covering Louis the German, it goes over intellectual life as well for a bit. But it's mostly a narrative of the half century of wars between him and his brothers, and sons. It doesn't cover the next generation in much detail, they just get the conclusion but the narrative of the Carolingian Empire ends in 888 regardless, so it's only a decade.
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>>24881599
sir this is a wendys
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>>24881599
This post was FACT CHECKED by TRVE REVQLVTIQNVRY PQTRIQTS:
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>>24881739
Where can I download this?
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>>24887584
Anna's Archive
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This + The Cheese and the Worms is pretty good
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>>24888380
Burn it
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>>24883046
i've seen this recommended a few times. what makes it a stand out book in its subject?
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>>24880557
I finished that today and thought it was very nice
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Any good books on paganism or animism? Primitive groups from asia, in Borneo or southern american in Amazon forest would be best. Read Alfred russel wallace on borneo in Malay Archipelago it was great and want more. Ethnobotany related work is also good.
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>>24881599
I agree in spirit except replace the bourgeoisie with non-whites
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>>24881599
>inbred-paedophile
Appeal to bourgeois morality, stopped reading there
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>>24890153
The bourgeoisie are all diddymaxxed they dgaf about pedophilia
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>>24883245
I've seen this recommended before, either here or on /his/. Is there anything like this but shorter? Not sure I want to do 900+ pages of the HRE.
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Stop posting the same books in every thread you fucking faggots.
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>>24880497
Rating the books I've read this year
>The Last Spike: The Great Railway, 1881-1885 by Pierre Berton
3.7/5
>Napoleon, a Life by Andrew Roberts
4.9/5
>Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage by Alfred Lansing
4/5
>Julius Caesar by Adrian Goldsworthy
4.5/5

Currently going through the Theodore Roosevelt trilogy by Edmund Morris
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>>24890223
Which books get posted every thread?
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>>24880497
Are there any /his/ book that it's obviously so fucking full of lies and bullshit that you wonder if the guy who wrote it was just taking the piss?
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>>24890247
These ones
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>>24880584
>>24882362
>>24883089
>>24883245
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>>24887797
Thanks
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Currently reading this.
Y'all should read this too, it's even more relevant today than it was initially published.
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>>24890272
Reading this in the same rotation as Sorel's "Reflections on Violence" was quite the experience
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>>24890250
Howard Zinn
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>>24892197
Thanks for posting. Was looking for something on this topic
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>>24883936
I was the same. It's ok. McVeigh was a patsy. Bunch of spooks being spooky. If you're into that you'll like it.
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>>24880497
>Books that are fiction but still hold /his/topical value are also appreciated
idk b, fiction in my nonfiction doesnt sound right
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>>24884472
Thanks. I wishlisted that.

Also looking for sports history too.
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>>24893752
Why do all cool English language books about China have to be $300. I always hear people rave about the Oxford history and I find it impossible to find anything secondhand from it. Besides the Qing and modern China it's downright impossible to find any good affordable books about China
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I've been on an English history kick recently.
Read:
The Perfect King (Edward III) - Ian Mortimer
A Great and Terrible King (Edward I) - Marc Morris
Edward II - Kathryn Warner
The Plantagenets - Dan Jones
The War of the Roses - Dan Jones

I think I want to read a book about Henry V and then read about some other era/topic.
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>>24890223
Stop not reading the books that get recommended, you insufferable consumer.
>Stimulate me with NEW CONTENT NAO!¡
Finish Bloom's canon.
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>>24880718
>exactly the types who got jobs in politics and academia
So liberals have a brief fling in Marxism by way of the CIA plants
>>24881126
>commies
Do you know what the saying "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck..." etc. means?
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>>24888933
Nothing? Pre 20th century botany or biology with historical depth. Something on trading outside of silk road or unusual book on the subject?
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Just read the series by Mark Edward Lewis, it's pretty decent and goes all the way to the Qing
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>>24880497
I've read this book and found it profoundly unfair towards Gorbachev. At times, it felt like the author resents him for his reluctance to use violence against the people. Gorbachev wanted more freedom and democracy for the soviet people. Maybe he was a bit of a political coward, maybe he was lost in the diplomatic sauce, but his ultimate fault was is naiveté: he really believed his entourage would help him to make the USSR a better place for everyone.

Good book still, but not written in good faith. It sometimes feel like Zubov thinks that pursuing the soviet ideals was the right thing to do and that everything would be perfect in the end, even though the whole thing had turned to a shitshow long before Gorbatchev got into power.
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What's the definitive book about Hitler?
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>>24880497
Is there a book for all the classical greek and roman philosophies and their core principles? I like almost all of Stoicism other than the "be social with people" so I was wondering if the Cynics were maybe more my style, considering that many students and teachers would flip between the two.
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>>24897488
I remember reading this back in college and really enjoying it. It's only greek, and not just philosophy but culture in general, but it's really damn good.
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>>24885794
Underrated. It's secretly not really about Texas but rather is a history of America from an unapologetic Heritage American perspective that rejects Ellis Island mythology.
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>>24897086
>At times, it felt like the author resents him for his reluctance to use violence against the people.
I don't remember the book claiming that the problem was that Gorbachev wasn't brutal enough, more that when he started as chairman he enjoyed absolute power, but he then created his own opposition in the form of the USSR congress to oppose him and hobble his economic reforms.
If he had reformed the economy first (like Andropov) and only then created some democratic structures (unlike Andropov) the reforms would have been easier
>but his ultimate fault was is naiveté: he really believed his entourage would help him to make the USSR a better place for everyone.
Well, Gorbachev wasn't an economist, he was a lawyer who idealised Lenin and wanted to emulate him.
The author portrays the image that Gorbachev would come with an impressive but highminded vision/plan for how the country should be run, but when his plans caused even more economic problems and his advisors suggested changes he'd become frustated and went to sulk in his dacha
If that is true then it does reflect badly on his character.
The biggest problem was that nobody really had an idea how the Soviet schizophrenic two currency planned economy worked, but his advisors had decent ideas on how to fix it. Gorbachev had no clue
>maybe he was lost in the diplomatic sauce
Foreign policy was the one thing where he was somewhat effective and had good ideas, but the domestic collapse meant he also lost all sway abroad
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>>24885794
This title actually made me realize that if humanity still exists in the far-flung future the earth is going to have so much crazy history to sift through that I wouldn't be surprised that most of it is considered "boring" or "inconsequential" for a time because it doesn't relate to the current people or culture there. Only for a new form of content creation on future youtube where people dive so far back in the past and read about the Native Americans and their clashes with the Gold Rushers and the Texas Rangers and kick off their version of "always thinking about Rome" history meme.
Like at what point is a planet or land so stacked with history that most people just stop giving a shit about it?
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>For two hundred years historians have viewed England’s Glorious Revolution of 1688–1689 as an un-revolutionary revolution―bloodless, consensual, aristocratic, and above all, sensible. In this brilliant new interpretation Steve Pincus refutes this traditional view.
>By expanding the interpretive lens to include a broader geographical and chronological frame, Pincus demonstrates that England’s revolution was a European event, that it took place over a number of years, not months, and that it had repercussions in India, North America, the West Indies, and throughout continental Europe. His rich historical narrative, based on masses of new archival research, traces the transformation of English foreign policy, religious culture, and political economy that, he argues, was the intended consequence of the revolutionaries of 1688–1689.
>James II developed a modernization program that emphasized centralized control, repression of dissidents, and territorial empire. The revolutionaries, by contrast, took advantage of the new economic possibilities to create a bureaucratic but participatory state. The postrevolutionary English state emphasized its ideological break with the past and envisioned itself as continuing to evolve. All of this, argues Pincus, makes the Glorious Revolution―not the French Revolution―the first truly modern revolution. This wide-ranging book reenvisions the nature of the Glorious Revolution and of revolutions in general, the causes and consequences of commercialization, the nature of liberalism, and ultimately the origins and contours of modernity itself.
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>>24897581
>imaginative work of scholarship
In what way? I don't think I want much imagining in my history unless its to plausibly fill holes in it, and even then there better bet at least 2 imaginings that could make sense.
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>>24897584
Because it destroy's Maculey's view that the Glorious Revolution was a bloodless coup that didn't change the course of british society much, compared to the french revolution, and emphasises that it was just as violent and just as revolutionary as the french revolution
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>>24881599
>class is stored in the genes
what kind of marxism is this
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>>24897595
>what kind of marxism is this
Unreconstructed Maoist larp. Kampuchean mass killing is actually well argued.
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>>24897594
It probably was violent but not as violent as France's due to the shared power between Monarchy and Aristocrat's in England. France was much like Russia where it was autocratic and the aristocracy served the King in a more servile role than in England. HRE tried to solve the problem by making Dukes and Kings themselves the bureaucrats instead of Aristocracy.
>What does this have to do with anything?
Aristocrats being a balance weight to the King of England meant that the plight of the peasants (read: aristocrats) were heard and served more. Not just ignored like they were in France.
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>>24897647
It was as violent as the early stages of the revolution if not more. The book shows it
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>>24897652
I see your reasonable argument and raise you an emotional one.
England better, kek.
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>>24897409
Hitler: Nemesis by Ian Kershaw
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>>24897853
Does Kershaw know he's 1/4th Rothschild?
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>>24897895
he does and he loves it
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>>24897556
Thank you, this is enlightening and certainly fairer than my take on the book. Still, I seem to remember than the author regrets Gorbachev lacking the will to use violence against protester or "insurrectionists" on at least one occasion.

There is this way people in the West are talking about Chernobyl and the way it was handled. The subtext is always quite clear: the communists are stupid and corrupt and we would have done a much better job had it been our responsibility.

At times, the book felt like having a similar kind of subtext: Gorbachev fucked up in that way and this way, and if he had done this and that... And it felt unfair. Is it fair to say the USSR was already running on fumes when Gorbachev took control?
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Is there any counter-perspectives on the Salem Witch trials than picrel? Seems decent but I want something that might offer a counter-argument.
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>>24898495
>Still, I seem to remember than the author regrets Gorbachev lacking the will to use violence against protester or "insurrectionists" on at least one occasion.
If I remember correctly he claimed that the August coup plotters could have taken back control if they used violence because the old soviet/KGB powerstructeres were still intact at first and the opposition was terrified of a KGB crackdown.
But once the opposition realised the coup was a total mess and that there wasn't going to be a crackdown they took over control.
>Is it fair to say the USSR was already running on fumes when Gorbachev took control?
The author characterises the USSR before Gorbachev as stagnant but stable. Stagnant isn't sustainable of course so without reform the USSR would have fallen at some point but maybe not during the reign of Gorbachev if he held the course of his predecessors.
Gorbachev's economic reforms had a lot of loopholes which allowed profiteers to siphon resources away from the command economy and cause it to collapse.
I think it's fair to lay some of the blame of oligarchism in Russia on the way Gorbachev reformed the economy instead of 100% putting it on the liberal schock therapy that came afterwards.
In the end the book is a constrast to Western academics who say that the USSR was doomed and nothing Gorbachev did changed anything about this. (This takes a lot of agency away from Gorbachev) and Russian nationalists who say that the USSR fell because Gorbachev was against it.
In that sense I think the book does a good job.
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Tombstone - Tom Clavin

>On the afternoon of October 26, 1881, eight men clashed in what would be known as the most famous shootout in American frontier history. Thirty bullets were exchanged in thirty seconds, killing three men and wounding three others.

>The fight sprang forth from a tense, hot summer. Cattle rustlers had been terrorizing the back country of Mexico and selling the livestock they stole to corrupt ranchers. The Mexican government built forts along the border to try to thwart American outlaws, while Arizona citizens became increasingly agitated. Rustlers, who became known as the cow-boys, began to kill each other as well as innocent citizens. That October, tensions boiled over with Ike and Billy Clanton, Tom and Frank McLaury, and Billy Claiborne confronting the Tombstone marshal, Virgil Earp, and the suddenly deputized Wyatt and Morgan Earp and shotgun-toting Doc Holliday.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45046772-tombstone
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The Great Plains by Walter Prescott Webb

>Walter Prescott Webb's 1931 book, The Great Plains, is a foundational work in American history that argues the region's unique environment—its treeless, flat terrain and subhumid climate—profoundly shaped the institutions and culture of those who settled there. Webb's central thesis is that the 98th meridian acted as an "institutional fault line," forcing significant changes to European and American ways of life, and he identifies key technological adaptations like the revolver, barbed wire, and windmill as crucial to Anglo conquest. The book is structured around eleven questions Webb posed about the region's history and the challenges of settlement.
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Parts into Systems, the F-4 Phantom II.
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>>24896037
You need to read German language primary sources and Richard Overy instead of this reddit Tooze guy
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>>24900501
>Richard Overy
If you're too stupid to read Russia's War, watch Russia's War: Blood on the Snow.
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>>24896037
>Niall Ferguson praises your book
Then I shan’t be reading, simple as that
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>>24897409
Blitzed by Norman Ohler
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>>24880497
It's pretty decent as a book. I'm enjoying it. Even if it the subject matter is quite narrow. And the actual quality of the history would probably be questioned by academic historians. There are a lot of neat and surprising things within this book.
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>>24900525
Suit yourself, dingus.

Currently looking for stuff like Age Of Anger and The Stillborn God, stuff of that kind full of concepts
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>>24880497
Anyone have books in english on medieval and rennaisance italian city states. Venice and Florence have some but it's a struggle to find stuff on the rest
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Recently got this
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>>24901081
More like The Turd King, heh....
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>>24898898
For starters read Emerson Baker instead of Mary Beth Norton or Stacy Schiff, much better research and more context is given.
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>>24880718
Typical western marxists desu, also all white liberal dudes shouting louder than the other about how much they hate those damn crakkkas as if they themselves are not "crackkkas". Always leads to defeatism because they are useless cunts who do nothing irl but larp. About as bad as left coms and anarchists.
Sakai is brain poison.
>>24880497
Wasn't a collapse, was an intentional dissolving by the ruling party against the wishes of the majority of the soviet citizens.
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>>24901592
Thanks.

Any good books on African political history like >>24900630 ?
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>>24902308
Martin Meredith - The fate of Africa
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>>24881599
Great pasta
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>>24902338
Funny you mention him i own one of his books, Diamonds, Gold and War - his history of South Africa. I don't have a problem with British historians of politics but they always seem to have onions personal views despite being quite good on analysis. It just depends on how much they let that bias shine through when they're making their attempts.
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>>24900634
I like this and I am going to repost it.
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>>24901994
>Wasn't a collapse, was an intentional dissolving by the ruling party against the wishes of the majority of the soviet citizens.
And against the class interests of the soviet working class. It was as if Neo-Liberalism was done by an elected Trade Union Leadership in cooperation with the Trade Union Parliamentarians and the Business Community. Some kind of Cross Class Nomenklatura Accord. An Accord Mark I through Mark VII. It is as though the Soviet Union's elite dismantled it to sell it to itself using Hawke/Keating as a model.
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>>24902448
Got any recommendations on the way out though?
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>>24881599
i wouldn't say you were right, but i wouldn't say you were wrong.
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>>24881599
laughed irl
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>>24881222
Everything Latin Americans strongly believe in becomes religious, in time. It's actually much more surprising when it doesn't happen.
>>24902308
The Scramble for Africa, 1876–1912 Thomas Pakenham.
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>>24896037
Why do all the nazi books come in thick ass unwieldy hardcovers did they burn all the paperbacks?
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>>24902992
Because they aren't slopcoded for sloppeople like you.
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Any good books on the history or merchant caravans going into asia, smaller emphasis on the maritime trades. Or something on the tea trading and porcelain between england and china?
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>>24900481
Any more like this?
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1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric H. Cline
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>>24901592
Just got this today. Will compare and contrast with the Mary Beth Norton book. What are some other microhistorical works on the 17th century?
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>>24903642
>Any more like this?
Ordinary Men: Police Battalion 101
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>Decided to randomly read this book
Yea I think things are about to get freaky
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>>24881599
>I keep running into a particularly insidious type of revisionism, the "Think of the children" revisionism. It is stated repeatedly by disguised fascist, royalist, and liberals LARPing as communist on our board, and, misusing the concept of empathy that ruling class children can be re-educated and, failing that, sent to a labour camp. Let me be perfectly clear, the brats of the petite bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie, and of the aristocracy can not be "rehabilitated" or "re-educated" under any circumstances. They must all be liquidated alongside their inbred-paedophile-worker-hating parents. It is not the duty of the dictatorship of the proletariat to waste precious and limited resources attempting to coddle and re-educate children who, in 99.9% of circumstances, will grow up to be exactly like their parents. To secretly harbour counter revolutionary opinions and collaborate amongst themselves to foment bourgeois counter revolution. I don't care that they're in diapers, you put a bullet in their fucking head. Morality is NOT real, it is a theistic bourgeois construct regarding property relations. It does not matter if this is "good" or "bad." You put the bullet in the bourgeois babies brain, or he will grow up to kill you and everyone you love and destroy everything you fought for. Do you understand? If not, you are a liberal, a fascist, a royalist, and you ought to be hung by your genitals from the nearest lamppost. You are not a comrade, you are a coward, and vermin to be exterminated alongside the ruling class, their children, their pets, and their lickspittle servants. This isn't a question of "nurture vs nature" either, this is a question of risk mitigation and victory maximisation. I am not "weird" or a "freak" or "hate children" for understanding this. When the time comes I don't care if it's your local laundromat owner, I don't care if it's a guy running a hot dog stand, he is bourgeois! You will execute the entire family, or you will be executed alongside them. The pest, the maids, it doesn't matter. Kill, kill, kill!"
This but Jews.
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>>24888439
Why
Looks interesting to me.
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>>24880497
Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther and The Reformation of the Sixteenth Century by Roland Bainton
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The dust has settled, admit it to yourself.
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>>24880497
good books on Ethopia? particularly during the rule of Hallie Selassie?
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Can anyone recommend a book on pre-revolutionary Russia? I'd like a book that covers narodniks, nihilists, anarchists and early commies.

Paul Avrich seems good, but only covers the anarchists. Alan Wood was recommende, but I'd rather not read a book by an unabashed tankie. Any recs are appreciated. Thanks.
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>>24907255
Orlando Figes book on the Russian Revolution covers most of them in the first part of the book, though more as character portraits of the people involved than as a deep dive into their philosophy.
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>>24907275
Thanks for the rec
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>>24907275
Not strictly on topic but I read Figes' Natasha's Dance and I really enjoyed it.
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>>24897535
Are 2 and 3 worth it as well or nah?
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>>24907255
This is also a good rec, though for European socialism generally >>24908644
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Happy Thanksgiving fellow history buffs.
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>>24880557
Currently reading There Will Be Fire about the assassination attempt on Thatcher and I recommend the book.
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>>24909614
I was gonna get that the other week

anyways, whats a good book on the New York draft riot during the Civil War?
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>>24910716
I read this guy's wiki and while he's a competent intellectual historian, he seems too much of a shabbos goy for me to like.
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Bought this one recently cause I heard good things.
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>>24906658
i can't help but think the phantom's impressive design was completely wasted by the garbage tactics employed by the pilots that led to so many of them getting shot down in combat
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>>24910716
I was looking for this, thanks
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>>24910813
Whats with the sudden uptick in interest of the Troubles?
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>>24911506
Probably stems from the popularity of >>24880557. And its within fairly recent memory for a lot of people.
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>>24911091
Been meaning to get to that one for a while now, as you say its often recommended. If you're looking for similar here's something that I finished a bit ago, its a decent read and its pretty short.
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>>24911062
>whats a good book on the New York draft riot during the Civil War?
Barnet Schecter

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1976544.The_Devil_s_Own_Work
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>>24912471
Thank you.
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>>24902403
I agree honestly, even the better ones like J.J. Norwich are just the conservative version of onions, but depending on the author it isn't too obnoxious.
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>>24905731
Is it any good?
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>>24913190
I do plan on getting Norwich's book on Sicily provided its still on sale by the time I grab it. Unrelated, but does anyone know of a good microhistory on a medieval or renaissance university?
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The Washing of the Spears: The Rise and Fall of the Zulu Nation by Donald Morris

>In 1879, armed only with their spears, their rawhide shields, and their incredible courage, the Zulus challenged the might of Victorian England and, initially, inflicted on the British the worst defeat a modern army has ever suffered at the hands of men without guns.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/127805661-the-washing-of-the-spears
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>>24904048
The author has a one hour lecture version of this topic on youtube. Highly recommend it for everyone if they don't want to go through the whole thing
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>>24914339
This better not be retarded. Gonna look on Amazon for it.
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>>24914339
Dammit no kindle version. Sigh.
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>>24898495
>Is it fair to say the USSR was already running on fumes when Gorbachev took control?
I don't think it is, which is one of the points of the book. The USSR had deep seated problems (of the top of my head: environmental degradation, declining industrial efficiency because they refused to replace out-dated machinery and just added new ones, corruption, black hole that was the MIC) but none of those problems was going to kill the Soviet Union. It was stagnating and it could have just continued stagnating for decades, none of the long-term issues was at the point of immediate crisis.

Honestly, I understand the anger against Gorbachyov. He meant well but he is the person most responsible for the USSR collapsing and Zubok is the right age to have his life be absolutely ruined by that collapse. There are so many "what if"s. What if Gorbachyov hadn't passed the law on cooperatives? What if Gorbachyov had been willing to listen to his advisors about the pace of reforms? Gorbachyov had a lot of hubris and deserves some of the flak he gets in this book
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The Rise and Fall of the British Empire
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>>24881508
this and the sequel 1493 are really interesting.
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>>24880592
Why can't a registry of sti's be made? Credit cards have existed for decades, you could call it in and verify the person you are sleeping with has a clean bill of health.
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>>24883089
Do they go into the security guard that was murdered under mysterious circumstances? The one who claimed he witnessed multiple accomplices?
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>>24893752
Is thus the guy in the tv webms that is an underhanded villian?
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>>24916611
>Is thus the guy in the tv webms
Yes :)
>an underhanded villian?
Shu propaganda. He was a realist pragmatist who did great things for his country.
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>>24916600
how often do you think people would need to get tested in order for this to work? How much would it cost?
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>>24916600
>Why can't a registry of sti's be made?
>Why can't we make a list of diseased people, overwhelmingly composed of non-Whites and gays?
lel, because it would be "racist" and "homophobic" anon.
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>>24906089
The dude the book is about was burned alive anon
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>>24916455
this was great, read it two years. I particularly liked the evolution of British mentalities from conqueror to pragmatists to democratic pacifists. the end part made me a bit sad, but it is what it is. Egypt and India were belligerent as hell when the colonial powers left.

speaking of which, whats a good history of modern Egypt?
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>>24916702
not our fault they're low inhibition.
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>>24917243
>good history of modern Egypt
Jason Thompson is the only one that I'm aware of. Egyptian history gets pretty convoluted at times so it's never been my cup of tea.
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>>24917383
thanks. wishlisted it. so much went on but I guess I might read it next year.
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"Sparta’s Sicilian Proxy War: The Grand Strategy of Classical Sparta, 418-413 B.C." is a historical analysis by Paul A. Rahe that examines Sparta's military strategies during the Peloponnesian War, particularly focusing on the Syracusan campaign. The book explores how Sparta utilized proxy warfare to achieve its objectives against Athens during this period.
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>>24881739
Muhiditine ne seri jebo te allah i dzamija mala king mehmedovic je stigao i pravice sranja jebem ti allahaaaa
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>>24880497
Do any of you know of a good general book on Alchemy? Preferrably focused on Late antiquity, Byzantine, Islamic Alchemy.
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Probably the best book on the rise of the West/Europe as a civilization.
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The Civilization of the Middle Ages by Norman Cantor

>A comprehensive general history of the Middle Ages, centring on medieval culture and religion, rather than political history.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1762697.The_Civilization_of_the_Middle_Ages
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Any really good, in-depth books about the Chinese treasure fleet/voyages?
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>"The Year of Decision: 1846" by Bernard DeVoto is a historical account that explores significant events in the American West during that year, including the Mexican War, the Mormon migration, and the tragic story of the Donner Party.

https://www.amazon.com/Year-Decision-1846-Bernard-DeVoto-ebook/dp/B00K9OQ06A
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>>24901081
Yes, yes, Waldemar, well done.
Would be a shame if we just sail over and burn your whole capital city down though
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what are some books on guerilla warfare
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>>24883301
Epic history about one of the greatest men to have ever lived with some myth added that is just flavor but bothers some scholars.
It did a wonderful job at displaying Frederick's religion and administrative reforms, mogging Abulafia's book into oblivion.
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any good books on roman history, but focused not on an overarching history but on some specific character, episode, aspect (economy, religion, warfare, etc)? Something that can portray what it was like to live in the Roman empire?
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>>24880497
>1763148182640.jpg
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A referendum was held in the USSR on March 17, 1991.
The referendum question
Do you consider it necessary to save the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics, in which the rights and freedoms of people of any ethnicity and nationality will be fully guaranteed?
76.4% of those who voted answered "yes" to this question.
and at August 24, 1991, Ukraine was created by some officials who wanted to enrich themselves as an independent state, completely ignoring the results of this referendum
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>>24927349
There are a trillion books on every tiny aspect of Roman history and society.
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>>24927372
such as...?
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>>24927367
You don't need Pookraine, Vladmirobitch Cuckstinov.
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>>24927374
thanks!

>>24920189
picrel. not exactly late antiquity but alchemy nonetheless. rip Claude Lecouteux.

>>24900630
bought this almost a week ago. thanks!
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>>24911506
I was reading it because it's an inherently interesting subject, nothing to do with the say nothing tv show.
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>>24910813
Shame they didn't get her. Filthy pedo like Mountbatten
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>>24880718
Ah yes, american politics. Famously full of communists. Consider lobotomy, mutt.
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anything on the history of the Catholic Church?
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Reading this right now. I thought it was going to be drier but it's pretty damn good actually.
>>24904048
Imagine being named Gopnik hahahaha.
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Mesoamerican history nerd here, as usual I'll shill "When Montezuma Met Cortes"

It's a really interesting comparison of different accounts and retellings (+ their various biases and contradictions) of their meeting and the Cortes expedition/the Fall of the Aztec in general. It also acts as a historiography of how it's been retold and presented, with details being distorted over time and leveraged for different ideological/national interests

Plus, it gets into a lot of the personal as well as political background on both Cortes/the Spanish and Moctezuma II/the Aztec: It's one of the better books I've seen to tackle the political dynamics and motives of other Mesoamerican kings and officials like like Xicomecoatl, Ixtlilxochitl II, Xicotencatl II, etc, which is important as very few sources do this despite the fact that those other kings/officials and their motives and interests played a big part of how events played out, and are really almost as important as Cortes and Moctezuma II. This is something I get into myself (including some observations even restall doesn't get into, tho moreso in even longer posts not linked here that me/friends have posted on other sites) here: pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 + the other posts in that one I link and the two directly preceding it

I don't agree with absolutely every conclusion Restall makes but it and his prior work "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest", are pretty much mandatory reading for a decent understanding of the topic just to get an idea of how the different primary sources conflict with each other and skew details

Also pic related is WIP reading chart me and some friends on other sites are working on. I'll probably end up removing Broken Spears from the Conquest section for Collision of Worlds and/or maybe add a few books on the conquests of West Mexico and the Maya regions since currently this is very Central Mexico/Aztec focused, when in reality there were centuries of campaigns and expeditions against Mesoamerican states in other areas: The last Maya kingdoms didn't fall to 1697

If people want more suggestions let me know, : I did see someone made a Mesoamerican thread here a few days ago that I narrowly missed, I might just make a whole thread to get that anon's attention again, tho I read academic papers and watch conferences, or read specific chapters of books while doing research much more then I read full books front to back

>>24881507
Terrible, makes many fundamental and basic factual errors about Prehispanic civilizations and their colonization

>>24881508
>>24916593
I've read bits and pieces of 1491 but nothing of the sequel, how is it?
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>>24916600
Good idea. Then people will stop getting tested for stds out of fear for being publicly humiliated, and employers can refuse to hire people with stds
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>>24928134
It was in the 60s, when maoism was still fashionable and before the CIA completely crushed the nascent leftist movements
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>>24929160
What era are you interested in? I feel like it would be very difficult to compress a general history of Catholicism in a single volume without significant compromises
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>>24927792
Thanks!
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>>24929452
no problem!
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>>24928134
>he doesn't know
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>>24929332
it was already compromised long before then.
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>>24888457
I can't really say what makes it stand out aside from a nice writing and story telling style. But I just read it, because of Anon and it is really good.
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>>24929160
>>24929424
I haven't read it myself, but I've heard picrel is very thorough.
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>>24929312
Every time I see one of these big complex /lit/ reading guide charts only a small fraction of what is recommended is actually good.
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>>24929891
That's why the chart is still not done despite us having started to work on it like 5 years ago now, I don't wanna finish and finalize it till I'm confident all the suggestions will be good.
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>>24881599
Not reading lmao. Go get turned into a rape slave by a Pakistani.
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Finally got a copy of John Man's newest book, been waiting about a year for it.
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>>24929424
I was hoping for a broader overview. I grew up Catholic but I wouldn't consider myself religious, but I was just curious because I respect the history of it all

>>24929802
I'll look into it thanks
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>>24929160
Absolute Monarchs: A History of the Papacy
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>>24881222
Why do you keep shilling this book? Anyways looks interesting.
>>24883046
This is the most intriguing book posted ITT imo.
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>>24931935
I don't. I just read it.
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>>24932025
Lol ok
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>>24883046
Is this a
>le Jacobins were bad!
book?
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Reading this one feels like getting explained the corkboard of the most organized and competent paranoid you'll ever meet. The whole book is just a long list of "here's this person, who was part of this organization, which was at least alleged if not confirmed to be doing these bad things. Then there's this other person who you've heard of, who has a connection to this other person you might've heard of, who was at least alleged if not confirmed to be doing these bad things. I bet you thought the first person didn't factor into it. Actually, they seem to have been best friends..." rinse and repeat.
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>>24932272
I've heard it's dense and dry, yeah.
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>>24880497
>Reveille in Washington, 1860-1865 by Margaret Leech

>1860: The American capital is sprawling, fractured, squalid, colored by patriotism and treason, and deeply divided along the political lines that will soon embroil the nation in bloody conflict. Chaotic and corrupt, the young city is populated by bellicose congressmen, Confederate conspirators, and enterprising prostitutes. Soldiers of a volunteer army swing from the dome of the Capitol, assassins stalk the avenues, and Abraham Lincoln struggles to justify his presidency as the Union heads to war.
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>>24929312
I get that this is a big topic and everything but any reading chart that's actually good needs to be brief. You're falling victim to the classic blunder of just throwing in everything. Pick a good introductory text or two for each topic which will then familiarise the reader with where to go afterwards.
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>>24934178
I am many things, concise is not one of them: I often do 10-15, sometimes 30+ post long infodumps in threads here.

I can probably try to trim it down to 6-7 books per category, but any less then that and I'll probably cutting serious important content not covered by other sources.

Introductory texts are actually what is most difficult for me, since I got into Mesoamerica by reading posts from researchers and other hobbyists online and binged enough that I was able to go directly into reading academic publications and books without ever needing generalist intro sources.
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>>24890272
Leftist hogwash
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Good histories of ethics besides picrel and Alasdair McIntyre's works?
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>>24921795
What is so good about it? Any chapter in particular or remarkable information?
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>>24935092
A History of Western Morals by Crane Brinton
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>>24935298
Can't find it
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>>24929312
>but nothing of the sequel, how is it?
it's been a few years so my memory is hazy, but it's enjoyable and informative. I liked the talk of crop exchange and how certain ones got to certain areas and how they wound up being cultivated. Sweet potato slips being smuggled in bundles of rope. Corn being planted en masse in Red China in the loess plateau region, sometimes disastrously. The whole Spanish/Peruvian silver trade to China was neat.

>>24929424
nta but do you know any good books about the conflicts between the Holy Roman Emperors and the Popes/Guelphs and Ghibellines/Investiture Controversy? or anything about the Avignon Papacy and antipopes.
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>nta but do you know any good books about the conflicts between the Holy Roman Emperors and the Popes/Guelphs and Ghibellines/Investiture Controversy?
Pic rel is on my TBR, but it should cover that period
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>>24881599
>you ought to be hung by your genitals from the nearest lamppost
Based hand drawn cartoon by Stalin reference.

And I am with you! But unfortunately that industrialized 1st world revolution has yet to materialize and my pops is going to want the rent by Friday or I'm going to have to use the spare key we made to throw (and I do mean throw) all of your shit on the curb Young Bolshy.
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>>24880497
Will the Soviet Union Survive Until 1984?-Andrei Amalrik
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>>24935304
https://archive.org/details/cranebrintonahis008603mbp/page/n15/mode/2up
let me guess, u need more?
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>>24936849
Yes. Post your SS number
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This book is incredible. I don't think I've ever read a better-written history apart from Will Durant. It's like a Dickens-level novel, but it's history.
>We are Disgusted with the Universal Scene
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>>24935813
Baburnama is also incredibly good
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>>24929312
Hi MajoraZ
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>>24918649
lmao at how badly cropped that Spartan is holy shit
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>>24908330
I'd recommend this over Olmstead with how much the Achaemenid studies have progressed since Olmstead
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>>24907023
No one?
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>>24894611
Not exactly history, but an anthropology of animistic beliefs. I own it.
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I can't recommend this one enough.
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>>24901994
They should be forced to work in harsh manual labour like roughnecking for a few years, maybe then they'd become actual men
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>>24929332
>before the CIA completely crushed the nascent leftist movements
Anon the left was crushed while Debs was alive.
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>>24940497
The "Left", with their natural urge for freedom, have been fought off in the US since Shays rebellion. The Haymarket Martyrs were the cause May Day/Labor Day, and yes, Debs would have won in a fair election which is why they had to lock him up. But the "Left's" greatest blow was when the Roosevelt administration legalized unionism, under the condition that they have a bureaucratic office to hamper it.
Since then it's been toyed with by the CIA and the Mind Kontrol programs.
We're not dead. We still exist, but so does the CIA/Mossad/NSA etc.
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>>24940533
>left
>freedom
Ebin
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>>24940552
Yeah, that would exclude Marxists, absolutely.
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>>24903211
>hochschild
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>>24940644
There are a number of authors who have written about the Spanish war of independence. Just the Abraham Lincoln Brigade has
Arthur Landis
Don Lawson
Peter Carroll
and Merriman and Lerude, to name a few. Take your pick.
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>>24890254
>>24890223
Posts different books then, you stupid faggot—if you even read.
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>>24940636
It excludes all leftists. They just want control.
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>>24909614
I read Mayflower by Philbrick and I was pleasantly surprised. I usually don’t like reading American history too.
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>>24940533
We should probably defund the NSA
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>>24940813
Only way to do that is to defund by ignoring money and doing everything for ourselves.
Total disregard for state-capital.
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What are the best books on European/international financial elites and their significance in modern history? I’d love to learn from the Medici era of through the Rothchilds and Morgan’s to post-war era, seems extremely significant and controversial and often only discussed in passing, if at all.
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>>24940806
No. Drop the antiquated terms. This isn't the final days of the French aristocracy.
The two basic groups are those that want more freedom versus those who want more control. If you find some guy calling himself a leftist and he wants more control, he's a fraud and should be seen as a controller if not a "rightist". Okay?
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>>24940879
>this isn't the final days of the French Aristocracy
Yet we live in its shadow
> If you find some guy calling himself a leftist and he wants more control, he's a fraud and should be seen as a controller if not a "rightist". Okay?
How about no you filthy red?
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>>24940872
There's only books I know of on specific families. Picrel is heard is good, along with Ferguson's House Of Rothschild
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>>24940923
>we live in its shadow
They were inspired by the US.
>How'bout I jess not un'erstan' wut th'hell you even tokin bout?
Monkeys smarter than you.
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>>24940931
Okay? I don't actually care. Talk to me when you stop being a communist.
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>>24940835
Well?
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>>24940931
The whole aesthetic from this generation and era is fucked by those stupid wigs
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>>24940806
Everyone who wants to change the world for the better needs control to do it. It's a stupid argument
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>>24941130
reactionaries don't necessarily so. most of us are pessimists who know war, pestilence and famine are always going to exist no matter what.
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>>24940956
17th century > 18th century
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>>24941130
The goal of the revolutionary is to seize the power and diffuse it to as much a plurality as you you can imagine. The complete antithesis of the One World Government of the NWO nightmare they're trying to do.
So "they want control" is more about wanting to give everyone the same amount of power, but that is to control their own lives. AKA FREEDOM.
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>>24941330
riiiiight. okay. then why has every revolutionary government ended up totalitarian? big think.
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>>24941348
You're counting the American revolution too of course.

Why have we had authoritarian regimes for millennia and they're looked at with fondness, but now that we have people trying to to tell the despots to fuck off "authoritarians" without Bishopric approval isn't kosher?
>Big think
I hope you do.
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>>24941360
well the thing is, this is what happens

1. all revolutions have ended up authoritarian
2. people gradually migrate towards countries that are democratic and liberal and capitalist rather than socialist and destitute, i.e. Mexicans would rather cross into America than travel to Venezuela, to use an example

what conclusions can you draw from that?
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>>24880497
Back on topic, whats a good history book like picrel that has good descriptions of mountains, valleys, fields, forests, waterways, and man made structures (fences, bridges, walls) like picrel? I read picrel last year and got Robert Kaplan's "Revenge Of Geography" an hour ago and while the latter isn't technically history, I want something like that.
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>>24941363
>liberal and capitalist rather than socialist and destitute
>Like the EU
>Mexico isn't a liberal capitalist shit hole btw. Stop pointing these things out
The conclusion I draw is that you don't study much and you ignored the point I just made.

You are also probably falling back on your liberal training and always always always referring to Marxist and the USSR and can never ever ever take in a reminder that Marxism is in fact a shitty throwback to the days of royalty (Just look at North Korean Juche. Literally a hereditary monarchy. A LITERAL DISNEYLAND MONARCHY). And you mention Venezuela, currently worrying about being besieged Iraq style for no fucking reason but Maduro notices how evil Israel and their IMF are. That man wins elections. They are more of a democracy than the US now, you know that?
Conclusion. Your conclusions are wildly off, but that's okay, the issues are complex. Want some book recs?
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>>24941301
Reactionaries want power too, just to make the world worse for the most part. All politics is for power.
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>>24941394
>liberal and capitalist rather than socialist and destitute
>Like the EU
EU is nothing like Venezuela. try again.
>Mexico isn't a liberal capitalist shit hole btw. Stop pointing these things out
not the point I was making
>liberal training
ah I see you're an ideologue.
>North Korean Juche. Literally a hereditary monarchy. A LITERAL DISNEYLAND MONARCHY)
still was caused by Marx

>>24941412
>implying the world is going to improve
and no shit
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>>24929164
Looks interesting. I read pic rel a little while back and it deals with all the freaky shit that happened AFTER 9/11, under Bush and Obama.
>>24881766
I put it on the backburner after finishing the first part, but it really is amazing. Love all the little anecdotes.
>that finance minister (forgot his name) who noticed someone smoking near the gunpowder barrels during the Bastille siege, casually approached and asked to buy the pipe off him, and immediately pitched it into the canal.
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>>24941413
Sweden=Venezuela. Except for the fact the US and the IMF want the oil. Not to pay one red cent for it, but to take it entirely.
>Not making any point that makes you look good
>My being a liberal capitalist ideologue means only you are an ideologue
>Still Marx
Always always always and always always always forever will you refer to the shitbird's nest face like it makes you look smart. I am not making a case for Marxist utopian idea of scientific socialism. It has always been a dumb idea, and as dumb as your ideas at that.

But here's a book for the thread. Fuck this guy >>24941413
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>>24941452
I'm not a liberal but sure. I'm much more extreme than that. But okay.
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>>24941418
>Author of Blackwater
This is the second time recently I've heard mention of this book.
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>>24941418
>>24941543
Sounds really dated too honestly. I know that's rich considering I'm reading a book on the lead-up to 9/11, but if I'm going to be reading about the war on terror I'd like it to at least contain information about ISIS and be more up to date than published 2013.
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Picrel is the superior book on covert CIA ops anyways, published 2019.
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>>24941387
Any book about the Industrial Revolution projects in England
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>>24941461
>Stands by liberalism
>Uses liberal talking points
You are a liberal. I know, it's fashionable to equate them with blue hair and certain fascistic tendencies, but you see, you are not a "conservative" either. You are a "neoliberal" by some standards. You and the blue hairs stand for the same things.
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>>24941452
>Sweden=Venezuela
you have no idea what you're talking about. You've never stepped foot in either of those countries or talked to anybody from there. If you had talked to a Venezuelan for even 5 minutes, you would have heard countless stories of state power abuse and corruption. Maybe you need to read less books and go out and see the world a bit, talk to people.
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>>24941636
>if you don't like licking the "people's boot" you're damn liberal!
the people's boot is still a boot.
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>>24880497
good thread
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>>24941599
Thanks
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Currently reading this
Its good but it puts too many stuff in it, there was no reason to put this much stuff like the Italian Front and don't elaborate in depth as I would like
I think I prefer The Western Front just because its more focused, curious to see how the last book turns out since its going to be about Africa, the Middle east and the far East
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>>24881427
How deep are we talking?
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>>24941899
Gobekli Tepe
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>>24941732
>the "people's boot"
This isn't a thing. Unless you're talking about the Soviet "people's party", which was nonsense

>>24941720
They're both democracies, they both practice "mixed" economics of capitalists and strong social programs. They clearly have historical and cultural differences but they practice the same sociopolitical system.
But because they're in different places with different people, they are being embargoed, shot at and perhaps invaded for not giving the US their oil.
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>>24942441
>This isn't a thing
Sure, Ivan
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>>24942462
>Ivan
Ah, you are talking about the vanguardism. Still dredging up that bullshit Marxism to try and debunk separate concepts. You liberals are unimaginative little bastards.
"The people's boots" are just the same as any bootlicker, anon.
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>>24942441
>They're both democracies
in the same way that a $3 bill is still a bill. In venezuela, it's all fake. The elections are rigged, the people's constitutional rights are not upheld (private property can be violated if Maduro/Chavez don't like you), freedom of the press is a joke, political opponents are jailed, tortured and killed. Again dude, have you ever talked to a venezuelan? Because what you read in your books is not reality.
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>>24904048
Usually, the recommendations here are pretty good. However this book is absolutel trash. The last few chapters read like the author had to reach a minimum amount of words.
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>>24932272
Book sucks. Bunch of people I have no idea who they are how they're connected and not much else.
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>>24940806
/pol/faggots first encounter with higher thought
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>>24942570
Their elections are more legit than US elections.
The US is a banana republic now.
Venezuelans chose Chavez the same way Russia chose Putin the same way the US once chose Roosevelt. The oppositions in all those cases are undesired.

I advocate for decentralized direct democracy, but we cannot deny that they are functional republics, especially compared to the US.
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>>24943032
>have you ever talked to a venezuelan?
Got it, so you have no idea what's actually going on there.
And just so we're clear, I do not condone any US intervention in Venezuela, be it an embargo, other forms of economic sanctions or a military incursion. I'm just saying that to call Venezuela a democracy or to compare it with Sweden is a joke.
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>>24943032
US elections are fair, ruskie. The system is generally tilted towards republicans via the senate but the actual voting and counting is always fair.
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>>24943062
>Only I know what's going on there. I should know, I'm a CIA agent trying to undermine them!

I compared their govt and economics to Sweden. Sweden has dealings with the IMF and NATO breathing down its neck. Venezuela does not. And that is why people like you have been fed a steady stream of disinfo about them (unless you really are a fed)

>>24943098
>He thinks the elections aren't rigged
You get one choice every election. The neoliberal party top two choices. That's it.
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>>24941547
It's less a history of the War on Terror and more a study of its ramifications, focused mostly on Yemen and Somalia, and on the subject of Anwar al-Awlaki. It's outdated historically but the points he makes stand.
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>>24943144
>people like you have been fed a steady stream of disinfo about them (unless you really are a fed)
I am not a fed (fuck the feds on this thread). I am an argentinian whose country is receiving hundreds of thousands of venezuelan refugees fleeing their country and its dictatorial government. I have venezuelan friends, colleagues, I talk to them on the street. I've heard their personal stories about being fired from their jobs for disagreeing with the government. About having their property confiscated on the whim of some fucking politician abusing his power. About going to the "public hospitals" and being asked to pay the doctors and nurses under the table because "public health" is a "universal right", but you still gotta pay the doctor because the government doesn't. Stories about state companies (PDVSA one among many) being run into the ground because some fucking politician wanted to put his 5 brothers, 8 cousins and 4 mistresses on the board of directives.
And it's the same thing with Cuba. Sure, the US govt was meddling in their business, tried to kill Castro, Bay of Pigs, all of that. But you ask a cuban who managed to escape his country how his government treated him, and you tell me that is democracy at work.
You talk about disinfo yet all your ideas about Venezuela come from books, newspapers, twitter posts and youtube podcasts? I talk to Venezuelans who lived through it every single day.
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>>24943144
>You get one choice every election. The neoliberal party top two choices.
The two big parties being similar is not rigged, fucking goalpost moving faggot. You also have other choices as well, and one could theoretically become big and relevant like the Reform party briefly did. And we're not in the 90's anymore, the two parties have diverged massively especially as the Republicans have run headlong into fascism since Trump took over
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>>24934332
The obvious solution here is to make the introductory text yourself. Something that can bring the reader up to speed enough that they can jump into any publication AND that they know which sources to pursue.
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>>24943287
>goalpost moving
The goal is not rigged elections. You saying "hu-uh" does not make them not rigged. They're not "similar" they obey only one master. Not the voters.
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>>24942984
There's an organized crime network running your country and you're too lazy to even read about them
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>>24883204
Many extreme ideologies tend to be suspiciously self-indulgent in that way
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>>24943465
I mean, if counting non-book length resources, then the chart already suggests "Cultural Tapestry of Mesoamerica" which I think is a great starting overview, despite coming out of a Mormon university
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>>24943570
You used the term rigged. And also I see you conveniently ignored the part where I said there are not similar at all anymore. Shoo shoo shill
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>>24942500
this conversation is over. I slept like picrel last night. how about you?



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