>few years ago my uncle self-published a niche sports book that makes you smarter at playing/gambling on said sport>even two years later he still has days where he sells a hundred copies on Amazon, so it definitely is doing great>Uncle heard that I had recently put my own book (genre fiction) on there, and had me reach out to his ads guy>zoom meeting ensues, guy is clearly knowledgeable and his team helps hundreds of people with advertising>the only problem is that it costs $2,400 for three months, and then $750 monthly going forward>ask what exactly he does, since Amazon ads are just showing your product, there’s no ad designing or any of that>basically all his company does is “monitor keywords”>they look to see what searches are trending, and then help your book align with ads by making your genre-slop book’s ad keywords be “high fantasy” and “Brandon Sanderson”>and then you just pay $300 bucks in ads a month and hope for the bestAll I can think of is that I could be doing this myself. Is this what it takes to make it? Just throw money at the wall until your book gains momentum (optional- hire someone to throw your money at the wall for you)?
>>24881036yes you can do it yourselfyour uncle's case is entirely different from yours. people respond to his ad because they want to make money from gambling. you are not making that kind of proposition, so the chances of you converting and making money (or even breaking even) from your ads is very slim to non-existent.for genre fiction you have to build a fan base somewhere, probably on royal road.
>>24881075>probably on royal roadOnly problem there is your fanbase will be exclusively web novel sloppers
>>24881036sorry to hear about that anon. i did a cursory search on the nature of lit advertising and it really seems to revolve around marketing yourself as well as your book. go on every writing adjacent platform and shill your work, honest pre engagement with reviewers/influencers, shell out cash to register for awards, etc. this amazon shilling likely won't make any ROI if that's all they're going to do for you. but yeah dropping shekel would obviously put you above others trying to make it for free since you can just farm engagement through influencers etc.
>>24881075Good idea with the RR, and yeah you’re spot on with my Uncle’s book being different >>24881098Hey, as long as they buy it>>24881103I tried getting booktokkers to review it but the big ones don't answer DMs and the small ones are even bigger leeches than I am. I offered a guy with 500 followers a free ebook copy and he tried to get me to buy an e-reader for him
>>24881036God... this shit is bleak. I've spent most of today finding agents to query and I have not found ONE that is either open to submissions or doesn't exclusively want BIPOC slop. You could send directly to indie presses but even they are asking for agent representation. The fact that I might have to start a an "online presence" to be an author is so disheartening I might just self publish just to say I wrote a book, shill it everywhere and just hope for the best. That being said, if the ad work is done so that you show up next to Sanderson, that is better than nothing. However, keep in mind most fantasy indie authors are probably doing the exact same thing. So that just feels like competition for commodities, which is really a luck of the draw in economics unless you A. have a very unique and strong hook or B. are the cheapest alternative (which doesn't even work with fiction)
>>24881115Web novel sloppers will only buy your work if you don't put a single shred of creativity or unique voice into it
>>24881036pay me to market your book and I'll make twitter bait posts about it and get women to hold the book next to their tits for social media
>>24881122>The fact that I might have to start a an "online presence" to be an author is so disheartening I might just self publish just to say I wrote a book, shill it everywhere and just hope for the best.You will still have to do the same thing, I don't know what you're planning with self publishing, you still have to have an "online presence" and shill yourself everywhere and go to all kinds of events, suck all kinds of cocks etc. With the added downside that you don't get shit that the publisher would do (have actual channels to get you into all these things).
>>24881352Ok. Show me your tits and we’ll go from there
>>24881036just buy an advertisement on 4chan
