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>Pound

life slips by like a field mouse.
Not shaking the grass

>Mccarthy

I am a mouse in a grassbole crouching. But I can hear come whicket and swish the clocklike blade of the cradle.
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>>24881763
Andrew Marvell’s Mower’s address to the glow-worms:

Ye country comets that portend
No war nor prince’s funeral,
Shining unto no higher end
Than to presage the grass’s fall.
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>>24881774
>comets
A stretch desu. Faulkner's snuffed but glowing matchstick in falling is a better metaphor for comets.
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>>24881763
McCarthy's sentence doesn't even make sense
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>>24881788
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_cradle
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>>24881784
He’s talking about glow-worms, not actual comets.
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>>24881797
And I am saying comparing gloworms to comets is a stretch. Comets are most noticeable for tails, while gloworms are static.
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>>24881805
How does someone so literal-minded find his way to poetry? Marvell was having fun calling tiny lights ‘country comets.’ The charm comes from the deliberate exaggeration.
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>Corhack McHackthy
The other guy did it better by default.
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>>24881763
Obviously Pound's. They're expressing and describing different things, despite the mouse subject matter, but Pound's is more superbly executed and far more emotionally potent. The attraction of McCarthy's prose is mostly in its fulfilling the role of an attenuated verse. Ever since the reading public's aversion to poetry become palpable, people have gone to prose for musical qualities in literature. The McCarthy quote is even mostly iambic, a suitably rigid metric for his rather one-note 'fate is cruel and inescapable' tone.

>>24881774
Based Marvell poster. His Mower poems are extremely underrated.
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>>24881858
You're retarded
>>24881812
Bad metaphors are bad. That's not being literal-minded
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>>24881858
>but Pound's is more superbly executed and far more emotionally potent.
Poundfags everyone. His reads like a lyric from one of those pretentious modern songwriters.
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>>24881860
NTA you were originally arguing with, but you seem to lack the minimal linguistic education or intelligence required to appreciate poetry. When you see the word 'comet', you see the visual image of a comet, like most of us, but you fail to also see it as a word separated from the visual image, a word with an endless variety of literary associations and potential. You need to learn to see the latter if you ever want to enjoy poetry.
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>>24881876
Goddamn you're retarded. We call those bad metaphors. If your mancrush hadn't written that verse you'd be agreeing with me.
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>>24881860
I guess that makes Shakespeare wrong to call Juliet the sun, because she doesn’t literally glow.
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>>24881878
Anon, metaphors don't have to depend upon a literal visual resemblance. What you call a 'bad metaphor' comprises a significant amount of the metaphors used in poetry.
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>>24881882
No that is a perfect metaphor. Because it relates Juliet with a glow that made her hard to ignore. You have comprehension problems, anon. I'll give you a much better figure of speech for gloworms: st. Elmo's fire. It's not just the visual acuity of gloworms not matching comets; even in the realms of being they have little to no overlap. Shakespeare linked Juliet with the sun metaphorically, because for romeo her realms of being overlapped with that of the sun in their warmth, brightness, ineluctability et al. Mower was grasping for an unusual simile and came up with this, and I have the right to judge it not good.
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>>24881888
See>>24881901
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>>24881866
You think that because you're incapable of scansion and cannot hear it correctly. Also its original context is important.
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>>24881916
Still reads like a lyric from taylor swift or newsom. Cope.
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>>24881901
but Juliet looks nothing like the sun.
>Mower was grasping
Marvell is the name.
Comets are supposed to be omens, by saying these ‘country comets’ portend nothing significant, he’s highlighting their innocuousness. Ironic contrast - the glow-worms aren’t just beautiful, but also uncomplicated.
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>>24881763
>freeverseslop
>andslop
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>>24881901
>even in the realms of being they have little to no overlap
Maybe you should read the poems and understand what Marvell is trying to do in them? They're mythological and mystical, he's not describing a realistic setting, he's describing a deified pre-fall nature. But also, as the other anon said, the exaggerated description of the glow worms is the point, and this exaggerating tendency is repeated throughout the poem, and the entirety of that quoted stanza depends on the application of the astrological significance of comets to glow worms. You seem to have missed the entire point of the comet metaphor.

>Mower was grasping
Lol, do you even know who Marvell is? Ofc you're not fit to talk about English poetry if you don't even know who one of the most famous English poets was.
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>>24881933
>>24881970
>this metaphor is good because my hero wrote it
Fuck off
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>>24881985
You already failed to understand the very obvious astrological meaning of the metaphor, you're a moron.



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