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>But you, Achilles, there is not a man in the world more blest than you— there never has been, never will be one. Time was, when you were alive, we Argives honored you as a god, and now down here, I see, you lord it over the dead in all your power. So grieve no more at dying, great Achilles
>No winning words about death to me, shining Odysseus! By god, I’d rather slave on earth for another man— some dirt-poor tenant farmer who scrapes to keep alive— than rule down here over all the breathless dead.
Homer's The Odyssey
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>>24884864
this seems to be expressing that Achilles desires life over glory. he wouldn't mind being a slave (which is implied to be something ignoble), because then at least he'd be alive and active and part of the flow of existence, not because there's something worthwhile in servitude. so how does this in any way contradict Nietzsche? and why do people on /lit/ approach literature like toddlers making their action figures fight? not everything has to be about refutation and getting btfo.
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>>24884864
Yes because he's an atheist or something and stopped going to church and socializing like a person, after he ditched Christ he went more insane until the horse incident then died of some stroke as I recall
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>>24884869
>so how does this in any way contradict Nietzsche?
the part that shows that 2000+ years before Nietzsche went full retard a Hero honored as a god said
>I’d rather slave on earth for another man— some dirt-poor tenant farmer who scrapes to keep alive— than rule down here over all the breathless dead.
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>>24884864
Wasn't the whole point of Achiles that while he was the ultimate warrior he was flawed due to his passions?
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>>24884864
>the relationship between Homer and Achilles is as it has always been.
>REAL writers just put things into words
>an artist capable of extracting a great deal from the little he has left to offer
>artists may not be passionate people but rather what they convey is capable of extracting great passion from others
>an artist might experience something that would consume and gnaw away at anyone else and cannot be described. This level of unbridblement changes them into something else.

Only if everyone is a retard. You know what this means. As it has always been, as it is, as it will always be. Embrace the retardation and seek to become something else.
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>>24884919
Nta, but you still aren't showing a contradiction. A contradiction to *what* in Nietzsche? Be clear dude.
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>>24885131
you want a master thesis, retard?
you won't make me slave it away for you.



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