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>Most influential indian philosopher
>Only wrote like two books
>Somehow beats the indian philosophy school with more books and more people
Does anybody know why Indian philosophy is like this? Or why this guy got more popular than everyone else despite writing barely anything?
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>>24887337
> Most influential indian philosopher
>Only wrote like two books
He wrote a dozen commentaries on other texts, namely 10 Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad-Gita, some of these are fairly massive (800-900 pages in the English translation), and he goes into much greater detail in those works than he does in the non-commentarial works. Vivekachudamani probably wasn’t even written by him by the way but there are many signs it’s by a later Advaitin.

Nobody at the time really cared if you explicated your schools doctrine in the form of commentaries as opposed to standalone works, commentaries were not seen as being lesser or inferior to non-commentarial works in any way, both were an acceptable medium to expound one’s ideas. A commentary on a major scripture was arguably more prestigious than a non-commentarial works.
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>>24887463
He makes no sense, it's more like he was a bait to get more money off of rituals. The mimansa school is superior.
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>>24887585
> He makes no sense, it's more like he was a bait to get more money off of rituals. The mimansa school is superior.
I have no idea what you are talking about, he assigns less importance to rituals than Mimamsa does. Anyways, the Mimamsa fails to make proper sense of the Upanishads which are the most spiritually edifying part of the entire Vedas, that’s why Mimamsa was overtaken or folded into the various Vedanta schools as a preliminary/subsidiary method, because everyone found the Vedantic (whether Advaita, Vishishtadvaita etc) analysis of the Upanishads more compelling than the exclusively-Mimamsa worldview.
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How come all his followers are trying to trick my grandma into buying gift cards at best buy
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>>24887648
can u teach me more
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>>24887337
http://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+witches+india

http://www.google.com/search?q=codex+pajeet

http://www.amazon.in/s?k=cow+dung+cakes
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Indian philosophy is brahminism, and really just an oral tradition. India is a shithole because the Brahmins gatekept it all and then abandoned spirituality altogether to become greedy money hungry capitalists
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>>24887865
What about the reactions against brahminism? Jainism and the alike
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>>24887912
NTA. Brahminism was a reaction against Buddhism. It is why all the virtue is oriented towards political power, nothing about morality and spiritual well being. Jainism is a death cult and is almost dead, being absorbed into the merchant caste. Sikhism completely rejected the system and placed itself outside it but is just too small to make an impact. These days, lower castes helots are appeased with gibs and hollow nationalism. My prediction is the helots will eventually swallow the larger vedic religion and reduce it to the streetshitter image that you see now, eternally
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>>24888016
>It is why all the virtue is oriented towards political power, nothing about morality and spiritual well being
this is refuted by the Upanishads which do talk about such matters, even in the ones predating Buddhism, you are clearly an ignoramus
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>>24888033
Have you ever met a pajeet? You can talk all you want but it doesn't a matter a bit if you don't practice it
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>>24887912
Buddhism is very based, it's also a tradition where the highest secrets involve guru-student transmission but they are open to all people, unlike the skinny wrist pot bellied Brahmins who keep it all for themselves.
Brahminism, jealous of Buddhism superiority, sought to eradicate it from the subcontinent. India would be 100x better if Buddhism was widespread as it was, but they could not let go of their barbaric culture.
I highly recommend reading "verses from the center" for a glimpse, i believe all philosophy ultimate converges to the concept of Emptiness.
If you are serious about practise though, then western systems are better. Ceremonial magic or Bardon Hermeticism is a good place to start. Then, once initiated, you will understand the deepest truths of buddhism better.
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>>24887648
>the Mimamsa fails to make proper sense of the Upanishads
How so?
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>>24887337
Nagarjuna is the most influential indican philosophers, His doctrine not only was ahead of modern western philosophers like Hume, Whiteheae and Wittgenstein, he influenced the greeks skeptics, chinese madhyamaka influenced daoism, specially the xuanxang school, and the madhyamaka of tiantain changed each aspect of japanese religión, from shinto and zen to nichiren, from india to japan and greece nagarjuna's philosophy created new ways to practice epistemology that changed the world and even great teachers of Vedanta like Gaudapapa, were influenced by his system
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>>24887337
The same could be said about the jewish and the greeks, except that they didn't write anything (Socrates and Jesus)
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>>24888295
In part because of their huge focus on proper exegesis of the right way to do rituals, they have this belief that any sentence in the Vedas which doesn’t enjoin some sort of action is meaningless and has to be understood as being connected indirectly with enjoining some sort of action if its not directly enjoining action. Apparently its even a mainstream Mimamsa belief that this applies to ordinary everyday human language as well and that normal human language ultimately derives its meaning from enjoining actions.

Setting aside that this is clearly not how ordinary human language functions, even in the Vedas there are sections like the Upanishads which are just informing you about the nature of ultimate reality, of the Self etc and which discuss enlightenment through gnosis or realization, they aren’t enjoining any specific action but you are clearly supposed to be interpreting them as revealing true information about how reality actually is.

The Vedanta schools accept most of Mimamsa exegetical methods as valid for interpreting the Veda but they reject certain beliefs like that one and a few others, like for example the Mimamsa has its own model of the Atman that the other schools disagree with. Also the Mimamsa believe that the highest aim of man (liberation) is attained through Vedic rituals while in fact both the Upanishads and even pre-Upanishadic sections of the Veda explicitly state that this is not the case.
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>>24887337
I want Indian food now, thanks OP
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>>24888038
>but it doesn't a matter a bit if you don't practice it
There are still active monastic orders all throughout India that still follow the same monastic practices just as they did in the Medieval era.
>>24888306
Nagarjuna had more global influence but Shankara was more influential within India.
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>>24887337
Indians hate reading and education of any kind. That's why all of their universities are diploma printers in strip malls.
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>>24888690
>There are still active monastic orders all throughout India that still follow the same monastic practices just as they did in the Medieval era.
There is still zero trickle down on the average hendoo, again it doesn't matter about some bumfuck retards in a corner larping as some monastic order

Vedic civilization built by the Aryas has been dead for over 2000 years. The Aryas have passed and now only a billion helot larpers remain
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>>24888773
>There is still zero trickle down on the average hendoo
That's not true, it's common for some of these monastic centers to be centered at temples that are religious centers that the local community comes to on a regular basis to receive religious services and guidance and to listen to speeches by the monks on various spiritual topics. Yes not every Hindu does this but there are many millions of Hindus that attend services like this and who take their guidance very seriously.
>, again it doesn't matter about some bumfuck retards in a corner larping as some monastic order
When they are participating in an order that goes back through the line of teachers to at least the medieval era and which follows the same rules and procedures as it has always done then it's the exact opposite of larping

why are you malding so hard?
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>>24888773
This is just nothing more than jealousy at the fact the brahmins have kept a lineage alive and unbroken for 1000s of years, meanwhile the whites have been systematically spiritually severed from their blood religion, only to be replaced by a middle eastern death cult.
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>>24888814
> at least the medieval era
Much, much further than that
Many secrets hidden in the Himalayas
Though one thing true is most modern Hindus dont care about any of it
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>>24888819
>the brahmins have kept a lineage alive and unbroken for 1000s of years,
Brahmin were white, you are not. It's kind of like naming your country Israel when you're really Canaan.
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>>24888879
Classic dumb goy slave cope
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>>24888891
That's not an argument, Sukdeep.
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>>24888903
Neither is "you're not white", pig
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>>24888906
Correct, that was just a fact.
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>>24888909
It's also a fact you're dumb goy who prays to a dead Jew.
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>>24888814
>>24888819
No one is malding over the biggest dump that has ever existed, shitworshipper.
If you are so superior, then how come you've been absolutely subjugated for the last 1500 years? LMAO
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>>24888306
>was ahead of modern western philosophers like Hume, Whitehead and Wittgenstein
in what way?
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>>24888016
I mean, hasn't it already swallowed much of Hinduism? The last reform movement was by a schizo who thought evolution wasn't real and tried to make Hinduism monotheistic. His movement is dying and it's called Arya Samaj or some shit, it really hated cults
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>>24888819
Imagine looking at india and saying they won while the whites lost
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>>24888916
>Not a denial
I'm not a Christian, that's not a fact. I get the sense that you don't really know what any of these words mean. Not surprising, Jagmeet, but still disappointing.
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>>24889169
Much like rats, the biggest cope jeets have is that they outlast someone. Just look at the hindutva nationalists discourse today, they gloat how they survived 1000 years of islamic domination lol
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>>24888819
Yes we very jealous saar kek
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>>24889178
Nietzsche was pro indian wasnt he
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>>24887337
>beats
How does one win philosophy?
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>>24889274
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The religions and philosophies of Asia and the Indian subcontinent are fucking massive and the names of everything are hard to remember. I’m reading some introductory books about Buddhism but if I even peek at Wikipedia it’s insane how much I don’t know. Exciting but overwhelming. Recommend me books thanks, preferably your favorite secondary introductory sources
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>>24890061
Same
Im facing the same thing with China and Japan
I unironically feel like I know more about India and China than Southeast Asia
That place is literally so obscure for me
I couldn't even get the page for vietnamese history
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>>24890061
Not books but a meme pic.
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>>24889173
Of course you're not. Just godless. Why? Because your blood religions were killed off by Jews, and now your soul is owned by them. Sucks to suck, piggie.
>>24889178
> biggest cope jeets have is that they outlast
Not cope. A fact, piggie. You are unaware of how much of a loss you've suffered, how deeply you've been subverted, and mistake your ignorance for victory.
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>>24889271
>saaaaaaaaar nietzsche saaar
Yep he'd be a streetshitter if he was alive today

>>24890311
>You are unaware of how much of a loss you've suffered, how deeply you've been subverted, and mistake your ignorance for victory.
You can't subvert a pajeet because they stand for nothing. Your "religion" was a categorization from Brits. Muh superiority but in reality you got assraped by islamic nomads for over a thousand years.

I get you don't care about facts and everything is an illusory atman cope but over a thousand years pajeet
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>>24890302
Memes are for children.
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>>24890436
You are a godless being and a slave for the Jews. They've decided that you shall go extinct and become mixed with niggers, so off you go to the slaughterhouse, dumb piggy
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>>24890448
Is that why you keep begging for visas? Keep coping shiteater, people are disgusted by your very existence and your worth is that of a rat
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>>24890455
Holy shit you just curbstomped his shitstained ass
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indian BTFO
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>>24890455
No need to beg. The jews who own your nation hand them out like candy. They will mindbreak you, demoralise you and ultimately you will go extinct, and there's nothing you can do, piggy.
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>>24890485
Posted porn again award. Try to make an argument instead of thinking about dicks and jews, pootel
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>>24890499
>no dont hit too close to home
kys pigskin
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>>24889055
NTA
It is a classic trope to say he was ahead of all the skeptics in western philosophy
I doubt that any of them would have accepted Madhyamaka without extensive conditioning and exposure to Buddhism, which is hardly possible even to this day due to poor or misleading translations
You can only say he had the solution to the epistemological problems they wrestled with for their entire lives if you accept the fourfold truths of the Buddha which naturally/logically leads to the middle way (ie the rejection of all positions)
Otherwise I would imagine they'd find his work tedious and pointless, just like how the Tibetan masters thought Kant was a pointless waste of time until Jay Garfield told them why they should care
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>>24890505
You will always be a streetshitter
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>>24890517
I win. You lose. Enjoy tonight's relapse
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this jeet is gettin GAPED good lord
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>>24890527
You're a poojeet, you lost in life. Try to accumulate some good karma in this life, so you can reincarnate as something better like a pest or something
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>>24890536
what does black and white produce, i wonder
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Indians wish they were black but when they approach a black guy he knocks their teeth out. It's a constant shift between hurling insults or begging for acceptance; what a twisted mindset.
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>>24890549
No it's just a powerful psychic weapon the feds have been using on this board to render white boys like you impotent. Does this make you dick twitch, piggie?
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Okay, i'll stop. It's too cruel now. I just know a couple white boys have already decided to goon their minds out.
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>>24890540
>>24890557
>>24890560
Again with the porn. We get that women are disgusted by your every existence and you need to cope with porn

>>24890549
They've been so thoroughly buckbroken that they need other races to cope with themselves
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why does this indian have so much cuckold stuff saved on his hard drive
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>>24890569
He can't even imagine himself fucking a women LMAO
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>>24890557
Bro wtf is this image?
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This indian is sexually obsessed with white boys, very homo behaviour.
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>>24889271
>>24890436
You're both morons that didn't read Nietzsche. Nietzsche's dilemma and paradoxes leave him in a precarious position when it comes to Hinduism. It might help to provide some context though, at the beginning of the enlightenment Hinduism was viewed poorly in European intellectual circles, this was likely the result of it's newness. By the time Nietzsche started writing there was a renewed interest in it but most of the material was almagamated. He spoke highly of The Laws of Manu, but in fairness he mostly used this as a critique against Christianity. He also made conjectures about certain parts of Hinduism but he's basically shut off from any claims about what might happen after death. The way Hinduism is structured is such that he can use certain universals but that has nothing to do with Nietzsche. He also generally thought Hinduism to be closer to ancient Greek culture than the Europe of his time. Some of his literal commentaries on the Indian caste system also wound up returning to bite him in the ass just as much he liked to bite Christian society in the ass. He thought that the Chandala's served a specific role of keeping the other castes in line and even made a few cryptic remarks about this being related to annihilatory self destruction. He also thought Christianity had reduced Europe to one mass of Chandala. He also criticized the early socialists as Chandala but by all metrics his criticisms are either nonsensical if taken for true or they also render all his caste system enthusiasm worthless. Take your pick.



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