How do I erase all trades of modernity from my brain and develop a medieval mind?
>>24887649Muslims do it all the time. Entire countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Brunei reject all modernity and strive to live like Arabs back in 600 AD.
>>24887661I'm gonna need the white version
>>24887662I dunno bro, Vatican City? Why do you want to be medieval anyway?
>>24887665To be less like people like you
Modern institution have medieval routes, the Dag or Diet/Parliament, the Employer/Employee relationship, the withholding of the wine at communion etc.So really, just go outside.
>>24887719I live outside, I have exceptional vitamin d levels
you cantthe idea you have in your head is a simulacra.
>>24887730I'm free to choose my illusions.
>>24887662>Build a thatch hut in the woods>Forget how to read>Only eat meat, dairy, and gruel>Worship wooden idols with large phalluses>Shit in a hole Now you are a true Vikang.
>>24887649>all trades of modernity"All traces of modernity"?Go live in da woods. Pack some food. (In burlap bags) If the winter doesn't kill you. Reevaluate your life.
>>24887758I'm white trash, I grew up feral. I can skin a buck, or run a trot line. Grow good old tomatoes, make homemade wine.but I said mindset, not interested in becoming a sustenance farmer or pretending to be a viking.I also should have clarified the later medieval period. Something like the 14th and 15th century.
>>24887661This is completely false lol
Traumatic brain injury is probably your best bet.
>>24887770>I'm white trash, I grew up feral.No, you didn’t. Recreational hunting and gardening isn’t surviving in the wilderness.
>>24887661Retard
>>24887864What is hyperbole?
>>24887770>Something like the 14th and 15th century.The rot was setting in then. Nominalism and voluntarism (and to a lesser extent fideism) are what birthed modernity. Read pic related. Which is a lot, I know. Charles Taylor is very accessible though and writes in such an easy style you could listen to it. I might go row by row since the top ones are the most important. Funkenstein might be skipped but he does a great job showing exactly how theological assumptions shaped the modern physical sciences which will then let you understand Millbank's argument about how the unreflective adoption of the social sciences, which ape the "hard sciences" by social theorists and theologians essentially means swallowing heresy whole and accepting its presuppositions. As a modern, you really need to understand how modernity emerged in detail to deprogram yourself. Post-modern deconstructions only motivate skepticism, and even then they don't really cut deep enough because they lack the historical chops to show just how incredibly contingent (and theological, and based on specific heretical presuppositions) the mechanistic universe and the defacto absolutization of liberalism and empiricism are. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
>>24887916Now seeing it isn't enough. Read Pierre Hadot's Philosophy as a Way of Life after, because you'll see that philosophy (and the spiritual life) were never thought to be primarily about written discourse until modernity, and this shift away from ascetic labors and spiritual exercises is entirely based on its groundless and ridiculous epistemic presuppositions (which lead to radical skepticism down almost every pathway, or beliefs that require insane levels of sheer faith, like eliminativism, which require someone to deny their own consciousness in order to support the vision of a meaningless and purposeless mathematical universe that "just is" because it "just happened for no reason at all," and is one way and not another because "it just happened.") I of course mean "faith" in the modern sense, not in the sense of the Patristics and medievals, who saw faith as terminating in illumination and gnosis, not ignorance firmly held to.So this list starts easy and accessible for a deprogrammed modern, and then ramps up a bit as it goes along. It isn't perfect. These are just the texts I found most important.But as noted, praxis is even more important. Things like praying the hours (I prefer the Eastern ones but you'll need an abbreviated form from an Orthodox Church because the normal one is too long for lay people except for maybe the compline service at night), fasting, meditation, repeated prayers like the Jesus prayer, lectio divina, vigils, etc. Now, some people cannot accept the light of Christ and feel drawn to Buddhist practices. These are in many ways actually quite similar, although they have a very different grounding and diverge at higher levels of advancement. I would tend to see Stoic, Buddhist, and even Neoplatonic praxis as a sort of half step, a good initial medicine for the skeptic or despondent (which is how Boethius sees it too in the Consolation). But then after these you'll also be ready for the primary sources, be it the Republic and Phaedrus, or the Life of Moses, or Origen, Saint Maximus, Saint Thomas, etc.
>>24887770>I should have clarified, by medieval I meant renaissance 'Kay. So what I meant is you cannot find much of anyone who want to play renaissance fair with you for more than like a week or whatever they do those things for
>>24887770>I can skin a buck, or run a trot line. Grow good old tomatoes, make homemade wine.Sure you can, Bocephus.
>>24887916>>24887943Appreciate your effort. I'll read your post and pirate these books when I get off work. Thank you.>>24887954No, you big mean butthole.>>24887986I am an actual redneck. Hunting deer, turkey and hog, running milk jug trot lines for catfish, growing muscadine grapes, 'maters and peppers. None of it is alien to me.
>>24887730>a simulacra
>>24887649What a strange thing it is to encounter a kindred soul. Most would prefer the early or high middle ages, early modern era or antiquity, but you, like me, have been drawn to the late middle ages as a aesthetic and spiritual goal. The good news is, the late medieval period has probably more legacy running trough contemporary history's veins than any other period before the 19th century. The late medieval experience and mind could amost be described as 'baroque' and 'romantic'. My advice is to start with the vernacular poets like The Pearl Poet and William Langland and François Villon. Travels of Marco Polo and Mandeville's Travels too in prose. Then try devotional works like the imitation of Christ, Revelations of divine love, the Golden Legend and the the York Mystery plays. These are texts common people who were literate only in the vernacular would read. And I can't stress the following enough: immerse yourself in the world of Early Netherlandish Painting(also called 'The Flemish Primitives') and in the histories of late medieval popular revolts after the Black Death. After that you may choose to follow the late medieval Urban/University Burgher or Clergy cultural mindset or the rural folk, small clergy, yeomen path I guess.
>>24887649You can't. You were born into modernity and there's nothing you can do to become pre-modern. Even if you immersed yourself in scholastic philosophy and embraced Thomism as a rejection of modernity, you still would be doing so in a post-modern way. Acceptance is the first step.
>>24888663Neat. I actually have a copy of the Kempis work I've been meaning to read, but I'm currently wrapped up in the English Puritans. I'm also a huge fan of Fahey, who called his style "American Primitive", which lead me to read about the Dutch and Flemish Primitives, and fall in love with their works.Thank you for the suggestions.
I wonder what your motivation for this is? Do you just want to feel more "alive", and feel trapped by the numbness of our times?
>>24887649read Rene Guenon (PBUH)
>>24888753No, read Evola
>>24888751'm just drawn to it. I don't think it's about wanting to feel more alive, or feeling trapped, that's a little more poetic and abstract than my usual thoughts. Certainly some rejection and disdain for our times is playing a big part, though.>>24888753>>24888756You couldn't pay me to read either.
>>24887649Start huffing paint thinner and live in a shack
>>24889210Surely huffing turpentine in a cottage would be more in alignment with my goal?
>>24887649Reading list:The Mirror of Simple Soulsbrought to nothing, and who live only in the will and desire for Love, by Marguerite PoreteThe Complete Mystical Works of Meister EckhartThe PhilokaliaThe BibleThe Apocryphal GospelsNeoplatonism and Gnostic works as well for a bonus.
>>24889443Also The Cloud of Unknowing
