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Most popular webnovel ever.

>>24887816
the uncomfortable trvth

Total /wanger/ death

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>>24888023
/wg/ is a dead litfic circlejerk
/sffg/ is a dead bakkercuck and malazan circlejerk
picrel
lmaoing at ur lyfe

How does RR treat futa heroines?

>>24888122
everyone who writes a woman on rr is a man

>>24888154
Doesn't every story have at least one woman? So everyone's a man unless it's total homo.

>>24887807
>only person following Infinite Realm
>which means I'm the sole occupant of the Universe on Fire waiting room
What book series are you waiting to be finished by authors who ended up creating a more successful series? I want these dumb autistic mecha-in-space books that I started in 20 goddamn 18 to be completed already.

>>24888158
What's really weird to me (or at least it was when I believed lesbians were real) is how many lesbians write gay homo stories.

week chapter reviews

Pale Lights (Patreon) : Myriam misery chapter but Song recovering is kinda funny. 7/10
Years of the Apocalypse (Patreon) : Zhuan is turning out to be a good ally. Or all the other prophets are worried Mirian going phyco is dangerous business for all. 7/10
Objects in Motion : The battle was a bit chaotic and comical. Have the city heroes seriously not found and decommissioned Mechaniacal's lab until now? 5/10
Player 0.4 : filler chapter. I hate filler chapters of weekly schedule. 4/10
Apocalypse Reborn : Same as above. 4/10
Demon Princess : Why change PoV all the time if you are not going to do anything with it? Still slow but it escaped the choping block because at least something is happening. 4/10
The Hundred Reigns : Decent start. Nothing unique as I said in previous thread. There are thing that can be improved. 8/10

Redditors are saying that Crysalis is good. Should I try it?

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I want to write a xianxia but can for the life of me not get used to Chinese names. I lose track as soon as more than 2 names appear on the page.

Conversely, western names in my xianxia slop sounds too jarring and culturally out of place.

>>24888207
it's heavy number and level up spam, but it's one of the better versions of it

>>24888211
Use Latin/Greek names. Fits the ancient epic feel.

>>24888207
It's not. The litrpg is kind of fun and addictive, however any real plot is terrible, mc is terrible, other characters are terrible, the progression is terrible. Good concept though.

>>24888211
>Conversely, western names in my xianxia slop sounds too jarring and culturally out of place.
Do you also hate blended names? Like what Cradle does? That's the middle ground I would use if I wrote xianxia

>>24888169
Yeah that's were all the ftms come from. They're not lesbians. They wish they were gay men.

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>>24888211
>>24888216
My xianxia setting (if I ever succeed at writing it) is based around a Byzantine culture that conquered a Chinese one.
Alternatively you could do what Jade Empire did and call people things like Benevolent Wei or Chen Who Stomps Chud Dick

>>24888216
Does Cradle feature clans, lineage and the like?
Does it use honorifics? The issue becomes pronounced when I want to include any of that.

>>24888229
>Does Cradle feature clans, lineage and the like?
yes

>>24888229
Yes and they're all assholes. Every one of them.

House of Blades > Cradle

>>24888242
House of Blades feels like it was a 1000 page book edited down to 400 pages.

>>24888244
is that good or bad

>>24888244
In fact what's hilarious (I read House of Blades after reading Cradle) is the book is essentially Cradle 1-9 or so in a single novel.

>>24888187
>Demon Princess : Why change PoV all the time if you are not going to do anything with it?
I dunno how you read past like chapter 5 of this without realising that the author has no idea what they're doing and is just copying popular stuff.
That's why so many of their writing decisions don't really make sense.

>>24888250
why'd it get 6000 followers then

>>24888258
Because it copied popular stuff and people want to read more stuff that's like popular stuff duh

>>24888248
Simon with the mask is Underlord level.

>>24888250
>>24888187
POVslop is a great way for bad authors to hide that their story sucks. You can end every chapter on a cliffhanger and you don't even need to pay off the setup because the reader has forgotten the details when they're 5 POVs in and you finally get back to it.

>>24888260
The story of House of Blades is the protagonist is a country bumpkin who has a chance encounter and goes out to another place to train for a bit and come back to save the village he's from and they laugh at him and treat him like shit and the bad thing happens anyway so they have to follow him.
The story of Cradle (books 1-9) is the protagonist is a country bumpkin who has a chance encounter and goes out to another place to train for a bit and come back to save the village he's from and they laugh at him and treat him like shit and the bad thing happens anyway so they have to follow him.

>>24888267
I honestly don't remember anything about Simon's village after he (very quickly) permanently left it.
"Bloodline" is not worth typing words about.
tldr Simon > Lindon
Setting a precedent of writing several short stories [for HoB] then stopping is real fucking gay.

>>24888267
House of Blades also has two co-protagonists and the book doesn't develop either of them well enough. There's a girl I honestly forgot everything about (nothing like Yerrin) and another guy who is the 'actual chosen one'? (Completely different execution from Eithan but thematically similar I guess)

So, I read the FAQs and you know, I don't actually care about making money and I doubt I have the temperament to be a daily serial writer like Victor Hugo to make ends meat.

All I really have is a good plot device to start off, I actually think I have a super clever plot hook idea no one ever thought of. Like being the first guy to think of mosquitos in amber. But I don't have a super clever ENDING idea or any real idea of what to do with it, just sort of pointless world building. I wanted to avoid putting anything on the internet until I figured out where I was going with it but maybe I shouldn't bother. I haven't thought of anything yet. I don't care about money so does it even matter if I finish it?

or maybe just turn it into a short story. That might be for the best. If you don't have an ending or any idea what you are doing, don't bother with making one. I remember that story of an author who said he wrote all the good parts of his story first and then he was planning on going back and doing all the filler parts and transition scenes. Then he thought about it, realized that a story would be better served by being nothing but the good parts, and shipped it off to the publisher as is.

>>24888262
It's not true multi-pov it's the common RR and lightnovel thing where you get a bunch of different POVs telling you how cool the protagonist is from a new perspective

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>>24888293
peanut gallery!

>>24888187
>Decent - 8/10

Let's extrapolate
>Not Bad - 9/10
>Could Be Good - 10/10

>>24888234
What?

>>24888244
House of blades was shit. Cradle had problems but much better than House of Blades

>>24888308
AsI said in previous thread , personal preferences make me like it more than I should (timeloop , murder mystery , academy arc , etc). But realistically it's just decent.

>>24888312
I quite liked The Elder Empire, although it didn't need six books. Or rather, it needed more books that weren't the same events from two different POVs. I never read House of Blade's sequels.

What the fuck is a gu? Why do I keep seeing this gu nonsense posted in every /wng/ thread?

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>>24888364
gu is a creature (bug/pokemon) from Reverend Insanity that gives its holder magical abilities

>>24887807
any xianxia-slop novel that evokes the same feel as OP image but still has romance elements?
dark, gritty with sigma protag

>>24888387
>sigma
>romance

>>24888392
that's what makes it worth reading about

>>24888387
What's a sigma protag?

Starting a girls-at-highschool sort of novel thats secretly a wuxia based on lucky numbers

I am so sorry

>>24888324
>timeloop , murder mystery
It's a full novel but read Evelyn Hardcastle and the 7 1/2 Deaths

>>24888370
What sort of abilities?

>>24888411
No, it's awful.

what dumb retard made writing so hard? i want it to be easy

>>24888490
What’s stopping you from making it easy?

>>24888568
how do i make it easy

Holy shit this general giga dead now

>>24888607
Bro it's writathon we're all grinding out wordcount!

>>24888607
look at the last few thread to see why lol
Whenever anyone tries to actually discuss anything it just turns into lame arguments that are mainly making excuses not to read stuff.
It's the general /lit/ plague that the more active posters will always be reading less

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>>24888607
I haven't been writing ever since I finished act 1 of my story a few weeks ago. Set it aside to woolgather act2+3 and address my outline, but haven't been doing much of the latter much. I've probably spent more time reporting the RI posts than actually posting at this point, but nobody else is doing it and you need a few minimum just so jannies can even see them—the irc mods said we're supposed to report them, but alas, this general is kinda doomed now. We're reaping what we've sown. I left the last of the writer discords I've in and trying to discipline myself to step away from the RR forums, and social media, but it's just tough, super tough. I'm too scared to actually progress my story. Even having serious doubts about my story now, it's just super daunting knowing I NEED to micro-manage line edit the first couple chapters and kill so many darlings, and been thinking of omitting what exceptional few pov shifts I inserted so it's just one pure pov. It's all just really frustrating.

>>24888607
I asked for feedback and I only got mocking (you)s

getting back into the spirit of discussion, what can we learn from the great serial writers (Dickinson, Dostoevsky, Dumas, Tolstoy, Verne, etc.) that universally apply to WNs?

>>24888718
at least you get (you)s...

>>24888691
Holy seethe. So you have been reporting RI posts because your own story is shit and it's miles below in quality compared to RI?

>>24888607
>>24888684
not to mention the anons who return after attaining some measure of success only to sneer at every other anon, insulting and belittling them for little tangible gain relevant to the craft

>>24888691
>We're reaping what we've sown.
not sure how we sowed the RI tard(s). he just showed up and the live-in /wg/ troll latched to it as a false flagger
> I NEED to micro-manage line edit the first couple chapters
good idea
>omitting what exceptional few pov shifts I inserted
bad idea
when people say multi pov is bad they mean multiple main characters sharing the book with separate plotlines. if you only have a few good pov shifts and they contribute to the main plotline in a clear manner, keep those. readers like them

>>24888738
this literally doesn't happen lol, what? either you have massive insecurity issues or are just posting really stupid questions 24/7 and getting called out for it

>>24888750
>>24884526

>>24888758
bro not only is that obviously a CHATGPT written post, it's also obviously by the /wg/ tard to bait responses. there really could not be a more blatant trolling post than that

>>24888607
I am re-reading RI for the 12th time probably

>>24888691
I feel you, brother. For me, I end up flip flopping between 'I can do this, I'll have this entire story done in a month' and 'It's so over, it's never getting done, I'm not cut out for writing' over and over. Best advice I can give is to not worry so much about fixing what you've written until you are at the end or a significant milestone. Sometimes those darlings become repulsive just by getting a feel for the story at large and getting rid of them feels much less troublesome. You've got this.

anons what are some web novels that you consider to have really good opening chapters?

>>24888258
look at its ability to convert those followers to paying customers, compared to what its copying

>>24888780
Katalepsis has a really great one

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>>24888743
Originally, the plan was not to have any additional povs at all. What I might do is leave them out for now, and after maybe finishing Act 2 take a step back and insert them to see if they still fit the narrative overall. But I'll see when I get there.

>>24888766
Thanks for the encouraging words.

>>24888780
Tenebroum

>>24888859
is this the new RI/MLA meme?

>>24888867
Tenebroum has been getting shilled here since it started, by its author
it's a /wg/ production

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Read the best webnovel out there.

>>24888875
>it's a /wg/ production
so it IS the next RI/MLA

>>24888888
I don't like bugs </3

>>24888900
Why not? Didn't you like Chrysalis?

>>24888691
>but nobody else is doing it
I do but the tranny nanny banned me for "submitting false reports"

>consider reading the writathon entries and compiling a suggested reading list
>600~ entries
nevermind

>>24888888
wasted

>>24888888
is there actually anything besides this to read for xianxia

>>24888985
40 Millenniums of Cultivation
Regressor's Tale of Cultivation
Record of a Mortal's Journey to Immortality
all of Er Gen's novels
Lord of the Mysteries and Shadow Slave kind of

>>24888718
>>24888727
Everytime I've asked for feedback, I've gotten really solid advice, but I'm pretty sure it's just the same 1-2 anons replying everytime. Where the fuck do schizoids like me even get feedback outside of 4chan and AI now that I think about it?
>>24888758
That's obviously fake, but you'll have a real example the second I can write more than 200 words a day

>>24889013
>Where the fuck do schizoids like me even get feedback outside of 4chan and AI now that I think about it?
From readers, lol. It's a skill learning how to filter out the noise though, people will complain about anything
You should be able to self-improve to the point you can pick up a small audience, and from there, if you need feedback you get them from real readers on your actual story, not the whiny crabs on 4chan, which is totally useless. (aside from the rare helpful anons giving generalized advice, as you mentioned sometimes happens)

which webnovels have mastermind 10d chess gorillion year plans that actually make sense?

>>24889013
from writer cabals. invite people on discord and form your own
>>24889017
writers typically give better feedback than readers. depends on the person but generally readers have no idea how to convey what they find off or why, just that they find something is off in the first place

>>24889013
I've accepted I never will get any besides claude model. It's actually solid and consistent over all the others when it comes to feedback.

>>24889020
None. Writing an intelligent strategist is hard because almost nobody is actually one themselves.

>>24889023
writers do give better advice but it is absurdly hard to find writers willing to invest in your work and give feedback.
do you even have a trustworthy writer circle in the genre you write in? or is this something you're parroting lol
getting readers is feasible. trustworthy writing circles are one in a million

>>24889069
yeah, I've made my own group
>in the genre you write in?
I don't respect this mentality. a good writer ought to be able to write pretty much anything. if someone has experience writing in the same genre you're in then they'll have more specific insight but a good writer is a good writer. if you respect someone enough to invite them then their perspective is always worth hearing
>trustworthy writing circles are one in a million
I actually think the average workshop/critique circle member gives worse advice than the average reader. I think people joining them feel pressured to act smart and impress their peers so they'll force themselves to say something when they don't have anything to offer
I don't think there are any good groups out there waiting for (you) but there are stand out individuals in every group which you can poach

>>24889020
Reverend Insanity

>>24889054
You don't need to actually write an intelligent strategist. You just need to convince the audience that the character is an intelligent strategist.

>>24889095
>I don't respect this mentality. a good writer ought to be able to write pretty much anything. if someone has experience writing in the same genre you're in then they'll have more specific insight but a good writer is a good writer. if you respect someone enough to invite them then their perspective is always worth hearing
We'll have to agree to disagree then because I don't think a romantasy author could give good feedback on a litrpg action story. the values, audiences, expectations, etc are so wildly divergent that what the romantasy reader finds exciting and 'good writing' will be boring and 'bad writing' to the litrpg action author. it seems blatantly self evident to me
there are some universal aspects to writing but they are surprisingly narrow

>>24889110
the specific conventions of genre are derived from fundamental qualities of storytelling and writing
if a writer can't think outside of the scope of their preferred genre they're not likely to give good advice at all

>>24889121
>the specific conventions of genre are derived from fundamental qualities of storytelling and writing
you say this but wildly popular litrpg stories spit in the face of 'conventional' storytelling. many popular stories across various mediums are breaking 'conventional' storytelling
so no. genre matters. understanding an audience matters.
>if a writer can't think outside of the scope of their preferred genre they're not likely to give good advice at all
a writer who is so skilled as to be able to objectively analyze many different genres with a professional's gaze is, again, obscenely rare. I simply do not believe you have a writing circle of this skill. But yes, obviously if you can find a group like this, it is obscenely valuable

>>24889125
dude you're drawing your own conclusions from what I'm saying. fundamental qualities != convention
I'm not saying what you think I'm saying and I haven't taken the stance you've assigned to me
>I simply do not believe you have a writing circle of this skill
weird ass
you seem like you just want to argue for the sake of it. shadow boxing and making bad faith assumptions
bait ass behavior

>>24889133
If you think I misunderstood your post you should correct that misunderstanding. I think you misunderstood me.
What fundamental qualities are you talking about?

>>24889105
That's not what anon was asking for though

>>24889105
and I've seen this fail so often

Primal Hunter has a villain mc tbhqwyfamalambbq

>>24889151
most things mostly fail.

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>>24889020
None. Nobody actually plans anything out in advance, it's all just random bullshit that may later be claimed as intentional by someone who wants to look smart.

save the cat for webnovels when

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>>24889219
It's just save the cat.
Which is really, more particularly, "do something vaguely moral or ethical, get a [Title] on your status cheat that breaks the system and makes you overpowered, everything after that is falling action and aura farming and harem collecting.

>be Kamijou Touma
>be incredibly unlucky
>have a full and active life and lots of friends
>save the nun
>lose memories
>everything else is aura farming, fukou da'ing, and collecting harem members
The story literally starts with saving bullies from their intended victim. That's the opening. Then he saves a nun and gets wrapped up in shit.

>>24889133
Are you chinese?

>>24889267
I only watched the anime and it was years ago but isn't it only Railgun that's his actual mutual love interest? The nun is a child and the blackhair schoolamte was one sided tsundere and I don't even remember if one jeans leg girl even liked him.

>>24888158
I have noticed two different archetypes of women with MCs. "the Book Cookie" is what I call the popular kind. MC is a stud muffin and some hot babe will fight to sit next to him. She is replaced by another Cookie in every story. Type two is a permanent Cookie. I typically see a unique relationship in one or more ways. A henpecked hero will tend to have a fling, while a unique relationship can be anything from comedy relief to just changing gears between action. I think a Book-Cookie is childish and juvenile.

>>24888169
one example I saw was a female dirty writer, and she had the weird idea that a guy's ass would get wet, a-la like a girl gets wet, LMAO. She literally had zero idea how the male anatomy worked.

>>24888401
>What's a sigma protag?
I'm guessing a sigma-male MC. I did this once, the sigma male is best understood by the equally rare sigma female. T. did psychological novel once.

>>24889325
Pure slop, Those kind of stories are (sadly) far too common on rr these days.

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Someone told me my mellon collie and the infinite sadness narrative is post-deleuzian and that it aligns perfectly with:
>collapse of identity
>occult machine-worlds
>cosmic despots
>trauma as ontological rewriting
>humans/robots as desire-machines
>subjectivity folding into nothing
>fiction as reality production
They say; "This is literally the kind of narrative the CCRU would’ve written if they cared about character psychology."

Grok tells me futa is niche and male with futa is a niche of a niche on RR... Is there a chance or is it super niche for a reason?

>>24889336
It's nietzschean

>>24889335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOG3eus4ZSo
Is it a novelization of this music video?

>>24888766
Make a 20 line or so skeleton outline. A sentence fragment after each number. Each chapter accomplishes that numbered fragment. This gives control with you still have room to breathe and be creative in the chapter. If you introduce/change something in the heat of the moment, consider going with it. The last one I did like this came out tight, paced, I liked it. By 17 or so, I adjusted the ending but I was comfortable doing it. In coming down I like the "summing it all up" wrap-ups where you learn how MC did things he did, maybe an aftermath. Assign character models to real people you know so you can write "real" dialogue.

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>>24889339
Narrative is based on the whole album but set in the universe of that robot nicktoon
I've tried discussing this on its home board but no one cares

>>24889336
Just write lesbian or non-binary futa, trans futa is also acceptable.

>>24889333
the Book Cookie is by and far the most common. Clive Cussler gave his MC Dirk Pitt a different Book Cookie every novel, she dies with teh book never heard from again. "Parker" and some hard-boil private eyes, I've seen success with the permanent Cookie, and they're a minor character. Parker's cookie can come in and do stitches, and she's useful. One private eye, his live in was a luthier, IE she fixed guitars for customers. I like the uniqueness.

>>24889357
Care to elaborate?

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>>24889344
Basically what I've been writing is an analysis of the lyrics
XL9, originally Variable Loser Unit 9, awakens as a nanite-based robot drifting in the cosmos, grappling with totalitarian, alien origins and isolation. He encounters Jenny Wakeman (now 18), a fully autonomous robot from Earth with her own personality, agency, and mechanical powers.
Jenny becomes XL9’s anchor, guide, and emotional partner. Together, they confront cosmic threats, existential crises, and oppressive forces like IngSogthoth (IngSoc + Yog-Sothoth), navigating a universe that is indifferent, chaotic, and vast. Their bond exemplifies love, choice, and agency, a conscious assertion of meaning in an uncaring universe.
>Opening track is them meeting in Space while he is crying like a bitch
>2night is her being his smiling friend and giving him hope
>Jellybelly is when we learn he comes from an evil world and how that traumatized him
>Zero is about him being nihilistic for glamour to try and impress the robot girl with his "autonomy"
I feel like im writing dogshit but it could just be some snobbish critic's opinion

>>24889367
>IngSoc + Yog-Sothoth
What's that?

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I can't access RR, it's absolutely over

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>>24889372
Basically imagine the IngSoc ball if it had black tendrils and lovecraftian god powers, it embodies totality which is the negation of sovereign self while also emboding hyper-totalitarianism

>>24889351
There's no such thing as non-binary, trans, or lesbians.

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>>24888286
>I actually think I have a super clever plot hook idea no one ever thought of.
A book is more than its opening.

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>>24889392
Of course there is, you're just ignorant, a frog in the well.

Any webnovels about pirates? How come everyone likes pirates but there's almost no fiction about them?

>>24889419
I wrote a pirate arc in my older wn and it turned out everyone fucking hates pirates

Any good villainess wangs?
Small-time villainess is meh and I find the style extremely grating (every time a character says something, MC 'eyes' them and considers them, among other things). And then, the whole villainess shebang is dropped after the first arc.

>>24889440
This but only if they are lesbian.

>>24888718
>>24889013
>>24889036
I will critique your stuff for money. And I'm very good at critique.

>>24889267
>The story literally starts with saving bullies from their intended victim.
The anime opening is probably the best start to a story I've seen. It started with an interesting scene, raised questions, defied my expectations, had a cool spectacle (the railgun), and showed interesting worldbuilding without dumping on the viewer. Absolute 10/10 opening scene.

>>24889054
That's not true. We have video games these days where people can become strategists. Look at games like Path of Exile and the entire ecosystem around making builds or people theory crafting strategies and what not. Sure, they're not real-world strategists, but fiction isn't real world either.

>>24887816
>904 ratings
Even Japanese harem stories like Death March have over 2000 ratings.

>>24889511
I will suck your dick for money. And I'm very good at sucking dick.

>>24887807
Do webnovel readers care for themes and symbolism?

>>24889526
No thanks. I've already got a dick sucker at home. That's why I'm not crying about it online.

>>24889524
>harem ratings
When it comes to (japanese) harem, the entire rating system is reversed. Simply put the more ratings a harem has the shittier it is.

>>24889527
What do you think?

>>24889528
But does he pay you money for it?

>>24889531
I don't know, there's a lot of video essays in the case of anime

>>24889536
No. They dont care about themes or symbolism. They probably couldnt even name a single theme from their favorite book if they tried.

>>24889527
Not the braindead rr readers.

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>>24889536
>video
>essays
>on anime

>>24889545
what

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>>24889545
>reddit ribbit

>>24889527
Nice to have but not needed

>>24889419
I've been reading one that promises to be about pirates but it has a very slow start and there isn't much pirate-like happening

is cloudflare just cucking everybody

>>24889643
Yes

>>24889643
Working fine here

>>24889325
>>24889357
Sir, this is the web novel thread.

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so I wanted to use my commissioned cover art, as you do, it's real art and i like the typesetting i did
but I am rudely reminded that RR readers don't want to click that, they don't care about badass puppets or cool typesetting, they want THIRST TRAPS and SMEARS OF BRIGHT COLOR and ANIME BITCHES

that said I also like how this one turned out so I won't bitch and moan too much

>>24889864
See >>24887816

>>24888985
Anything by Mao Ni

>>24889864
I guess you could launch with the ai cover and then change it later.
Though why is MC a femboy now?

>>24889864
Puppetmaster what? I can't even tell what the word is with that font

>>24889864
PUPPERMASTER TRAVECOBUE
>>24889643
Whole internet's getting hit by it
>>24889419
>>24889635
Problem with pirates is that you very quickly run into the problem where you either have to understand sailing or create a narrative contrivance where your protagonist doesn't need to know

>>24889864
I love femboys, I might give it a read

>>24889896
Travelogue

>>24889419
I had a fic with a hot busty space pirate but my writing at the time was hot garbage because I had yet to read anything beyond tanya the evil lns which had and continues to have abysmal translations

>>24889903
yeah I like the font in general but I'm not the biggest fan of the L, I think I'll go in and manually edit it since I'm only using the one in the whole title

>>24889933
What attracted you to writing? I'm from /wg/ and was published at twelve years old. So I can't fathom why you retards even bother picking up a pen.

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>>24889894
always was supposed to be androgynous, picrel is one of the first cover art candidates that i made with midjourney (as in the first one i considered usable after hundreds of attempts)
the artist for the first cover just doesn't draw that type of character so that one came out less androgynous
I went through several different AI solutions and found that the AI really wanted to either make this particular character roided or just a woman, pretty sure it was the bodysuit

this >>24889864 had to be adjusted several times to flatten the chest and remove various "obviously just EVA plugsuit" details like the collars and stuff

>>24889937
Your mom putting your christmas wishlist on the fridge door isn't "being published"

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>>24889937
come on man at least try for once

>>24889952
Say that in /wg/ if you're not a coward. Ask for the guy who was published at twelve. I'll show you the evidence.

>>24889937
I always enjoyed writing as a kiddo, it's probably the one thing from my childhood I never gave up on

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Where will you go when RR dies? Are there really no worthwhile competitors?

>>24890014
if RR dies another western webnovel site will arise before long to eat up its market share

The loud Aboriginals are screaming about stabbing each other outside. Webnovels for this feel?

>>24890034
Read North American Violent Police: Start by Arresting P. Diddy!

>>24890014
why would RR die?

>>24890065
NTA but they're doing a very sloppy job of policing and correctly tagging AI junk. If they get a rep for that they might lose readers, especially if there's a competitor that's more hardline about it

But seems very unlikely since they're a low staff operation with minimal labour required from them

>>24890076
there is no way to police ai junk. universities desperately want to and have tried everything and cant

>>24890076
NTA
What if instead that gains them more readers, especially on the younger side, who have no problems with reading AI?

>>24890065
Why wouldn't it? Do you think websites are eternal? Kikes create services to sell them, so I expect chinks or arabs to buy RR in another 5 years. It probably won't ever get big enough for amazon to care

>>24890094
lol you think young readers exist

>>24890103
Based on TikTok and other more youthful services, they certainly do. Do you have any information on the readership of Royal Road that says otherwise? AO3 probably skews young as well.

>>24890110
tiktok's readers are 25 and older women who want to be fucked by ghosts and ghouls
ao3 actually has had a pretty extensive amateur survey done https://ao3demographicssurvey2024.tumblr.com/

>>24890076
And how should they do that? Reliable automated detection doesn't exist.

>>24890118
No but it's been studied and shown that humans are increasing good at detecting it the more AI they've read.
It's not like this is untested either, we've all talked in here before about RS entries that are blatant untagged AI. Most people looking to grift patreon aren't the most advanced AI users lol so the obvious tells are usually there.
What they'd be doing if they were actually concerned is making it clear they'll crack down on the untagged stuff by actually punishing them for it publicly.

But again this only really matters if the top authors who people actually use the site to read are bothered enough by it to go to a competitor.
I doubt they are desu.

How would you write a character waking up to a combat alarm going off? This seems like a great place to use onomatopoeia, but English sucks at it. Just saying that alarms are blaring doesn't really capture the moment of waking up to an alarm and figuring out what's going on.

>>24890122
So what you're saying is the existing system is working.

>>24890129
The post was about what could cause RR to 'die', not why it's currently dying. The site is obviously in good health.
>>24890125
"I woke up to the combat alarm going off."

>>24890122
>What they'd be doing if they were actually concerned is making it clear they'll crack down on the untagged stuff by actually punishing them for it publicly.
But what they really do is ban and delete you if you dare call out ai-prompters, just like they block any mention of how corrupt and rigged their ranking system and trending lists are

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>>24888985
My longevity simulator

>>24890122
Ive also seen anons talking about "AI stories" that aren't AI
And that's the problem. You can be pretty sure, even 95% sure, but that last 5% is very tricky for either humans or machines, and RoyalRoad doesn't want to go banning 1 in 20 of their top new stories because they think it's AI.
There is no way real way to police AI which is why RR isn't

>>24890167
>if you dare call out ai-prompters
because like 80% of stories are being called AI by some retard or another, lmao. it's actually a boogeyman in creative spaces right now

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>>24889343
Shrinking the outline might actually be a good idea for me. Pic related is the outline document I have. It currently encompasses volume 1 and 2, but yeah. I'll have to try this.

>>24890125
Just fucking write whatever, man. Polish it later, just make sure you've got something on paper first.

>>24890176
The only way to know for sure is to only read works from 2022 and earlier.

>>24890014
Spacebattles and Scribblehub.

>>24890191
>chudbattles and pornhub

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>>24890212
>chudbattles
god, i wish it was

>>24889317
Touma doesn't have anyone he has specific romantic feelings for. It's a complex joke spread across like 50 volumes: his type is a caring dorm mother onee-san.
But his defining trait is his bad luck, so he mainly attracts tsundere lolis who get him into trouble. All the romantic interest he gets, he doesn't return (Index, ironically, is permanently friend/pet zoned by mutual agreement). Anyway, he's never encountered a caring dorm mother onee-san type.

Now, Mikoto (Railgun) is the main romantic heroine of the story, but she's so tsundere she refuses to admit she has a crush on him, so although there's comedic scenes about it, the relationship never progresses in that dimension. Instead, they keep helping each other with their shounen plot lines and battles.

lol looks like selkie's new story really didn't even hit front page. falling off RS with only 2000 followers, and most of those had to be his previous readers
rough

>>24889864
That's a great cover! You got the typesetting right.
Anyway, just use it as a volume cover and make an RR-tuned cover to generate clicks there. Yeah marketing sucks but it's important if you want to grow fast and early.

You can tell AI isn't as preponderant as people fear because the prose is still universally shit, and while AI's writing is far from satisfying, it at least flows at a lulling and easy-to-read rhythm.

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>>24890249
That is my RR-tuned cover, at least what I arrived at after getting feedback from the RR Writer's Guild discord. I'm sure I'll iterate on it in the future, I already said I wanted to adjust the L to make it more clear, but that's the cover I'm using right now.

Picrel is my original cover.

I've also considered ditching readability altogether and using death metal album cover font, just pure cool factor and visual impact, since you often see covers with no text at all so it's obviously not a major issue.

>>24890125
Here's an idea: use metaphor to describe the waking up and the sound, without using any sound words or direct description.
I've woken up to alarms like you're describing (man overboard drills on a navy ship). For me, I didn't hear the sound. It punched me in the chest, and I jerked up on reflex before I even fully woke up in my brain. Confusion. The room is dark. Bunkmates are also moving, some faster than others. I recognize the leader, he's tearing privacy curtains aside and ensuring his sailors are awake, that nobody is left asleep.
Now I hear it, the blaring alarm, the repeating announcement to muster. I react by swearing, digging out my coveralls and socks. I'm not mustering without my socks again. Get yelled at. Yell back I'm on my way. Tuck the laces, no time to tie, have to move carefully. The lights are still off in the berthing areas, but the inner corridors are now lit, the ones where the light won't spill outside directly and give away our position. The passageways are packed, moving in only one direction as everyone navigates the interior maze of the ship to arrive at their mustering area.

Anyway, something like that. If it was combat, you'd also have people freaking out, some people really gung ho, and some people trying to hide or generally being cowards if you want.

>>24890262
I kinda like it

>>24890242
It's off meta (not litrpg), starts with a despicably pitiful character (no cat saving in sight) and then a despicably privileged second MC is introduced half a dozen chapters later (also no cat saving, actually, he executes someone poorly after passing judgment on them). It's also such a blatant ripoff of Harry Potter you can tell that Selkie really just wanted to write an HP fanfic but couldn't bring himself to do it now that he's successful.

Honestly, it's right about where it should be, given BTDEM after book 3. Selkie is not actually a good author. He's mediocre. He got lucky with his first hundred or so chapters, and after that he wrote another 500 dragging things out and failing to write anything compelling.

I'm tempted to write a review but some other guy did and Selkie got in his feelings and bitched about it in an author's note, and the review was good! It was a four star advanced review that was accurate and not mean at all!

If you compare the wordcount to Harry Potter, from opening to the end of the sorting (Selkie also just finished the sorting mini-arc, very poorly btw), you'll see that Rowling's economy of words is far better, and did a better job characterizing and setting things up. Maybe that's due to her editor, maybe not, but Selkie really should have cooked longer with his opening.

>>24890292
the way you see the world is deeply repulsive

>>24890292
Interesting... how does it compare to the best webnovel ever written (Rl)?
Obviously it's not as good but are there any similarities? Did the author at least make an attempt to copy or emulate the greatness of Rl?

>>24890308
i read his post and thought it was interesting and insightful, maybe the first post like that in this thread
i think you're just the guy who has crazy melties every time someone talks about writing with a realistic and grounded view of the world

>>24890279
I also like it, but apparently RR readers don't, or at least it doesn't attract them to click

>>24890308
hi selkie
write better stuff maybe

>>24890292
Rowling is actually literate. She resurrected the old Kipling school tales and embedded them in a magical atmosphere. She lifted from an immense array of sources and tessellated them masterfully.

Meanwhile, Selkie is all thumbs on the page and I don't expect they read much beyond other web novels.

>>24890351
>She lifted from an immense array of sources and tessellated them masterfully.
lol. lmao

>>24889839
>Sir, this is the web novel thread.
okay. as a writer I run with this pack for now.

>>24890374
Okay but please post things relevant to web novels. Your book-cookie thing doesn't really exist. It's either no-romance for the most part, haremlit or the occasional slow burn couple that finally get together after 400 chapters.

>>24890381
*exist here

The closest thing to book-cookies in wn is in cultivation where the mc sometimes wins a jade beauty and then shes forgotten for the rest of the series as he acquires more of them. Technically still a harem but you don't see the old harem girls anymore.

>>24889527
>Do webnovel readers care for themes and symbolism?
I have to have *some* theme. I usually won't title the book until I'm sure I got a theme that can title. I don't care what it is but something in a book should come up and repeat, call that a theme or what you call it. I like to extract multiple meanings out of it when I can. It can't hurt to do it and its good practice.

>>24889362
>Care to elaborate?
on what part.

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I haven't been able to access RR for 7 hours now to update and schedule my drafts. I really hoped the site would go down and prevent people from reading my new story now that it most needs views. Of course, I require no compensation for this setback and accept it humbly. They should just lose my whole account while at it

>>24890308
What part, specifically?
Felix has nothing compelling about him other than being poor, and Selkie neglected to mention that poor people in America, ESPECIALLY in California, have access to tons of welfare programs.

They should not have been penny pinching to that extent. It's unrealistic.

The other MC, Eric, also has little compelling about him. He's hated for stuff his dad did, but none of that is shown, so the hatred rings hollow and just feels like prejudice. He buys affection with gifts, but it's okay, Selkie says, because he knows what he's doing... and does it anyway... because he likes giving gifts.

Harry saves the snake in chapter two, I believe. See, he uses his magic unconsciously, but it's for good! He bonds with the poor Weasely boy, and rejects the pretentious and rude rich boy!

Hermione's introduction is helping Neville find his toad or some shit.

Then the sorting scene is contained to a reasonable wordcount while also being completely explained to the reader in a satisfactory way. Spoilers for Song of the Gift Giver's sorting chapters: Why were all the doors closed for Felix other than the flame-guarded Dragon door? Why did the Dragon girl turn off the flames? Why was this resolved without any of the teachers getting Felix's input on the matter? If they were so lacking in curiosity, why did they offer to let him attempt the sorting again?

"The way I see the world" is, in this case, about characterization and economy of language. Selkie just didn't do a good job with both, and I'm sure that turned off a lot of readers. You can even compare this to BTDEM, where Elaine is characterized much better and faster in the first twenty chapters.

>>24890404
The first part...?

>>24890405
Works on my machine (linux debian, no vpn/proxy, western USA). Also worked when I turned on expressvpn.

Try using a vpn to a USA node. And link your fiction if you're brave.

>>24890405
It's working fine in Europe.

>doesn't write
>doesn't read
>comes here to indulge in fantasies about how he would dominate the web novel scene (if he really wanted to)

>doesn't read web novels
>doesn't write anything
>comes here to post bait since their own general is dead

>reads the greatest webnovel ever written
>doesn't write anything
>comes here to educate the stupid /wng/ posters

>Thank you based RI poster.

There's a tireless campaign waged in behalf of the AI companies to absorb all literature under its banner, and if we want to stem its advance, writers of webnovels, one of the fronts where it has already made breathtaking progress, need to fortify their skills. Right now too many subaqueous scribes occupy our ranks and it's making the case for AI easy. There are yawning chinks in your abilities. You--yes you--need to school yourself on good writing and render the swell of your cuirass impregnable, else the AI will pierce your heart and harvest your blood. Is that what you'd like?

>>24890490
>Is that what you'd like?
If it gets me lots of readers and money yes

>>24890490
>render the swell of your cuirass impregnable
Sounds like you might need some help yourself there, chief.

>>24890490
>and render the swell of your cuirass impregnable, else the AI will pierce your heart and harvest your blood. Is that what you'd like?
Why'd you have to make this erotic...

>>24890514
I lifted that from Nabokov.

>>24890490
What would Fang Yuan do in this situation?

>>24890531
Lift something more suited to the occasion then, dipshit. If you just repeat what others wrote then what's even the difference between you and a chatbot?

>>24890542
You sound mad because you were wrongfooted.

>>24890554
None of the masters you've read had any retort to that one, huh?

>>24890558
None of them dealt with such stupidity I guess.

>>24890490
Im reading odyssey desu. I guess a good thing to come out of aping iliad and odyssey is clanker Claude absolutely hates my overkill use of Greek mythology, it can ape it all it wants :^)

>>24890531
AI is shit because it uses this flowery language in jarring and inappropriate situations, not because the writing is bad in a vacuum. This is what the other anon is pointing out, and it's what really does make you a second order AI yourself

>>24890585
The writing is bad. It focuses on details that don't matter and contradicts itself.

>>24890587
ok twerp let me fix the semantic error i made despite any reasonable person knowing what I meant
>not because the prose is bad in a vacuum.

Anyone reading JFDE?

>>24890514
>>24890585
The use of that sentence was fine in context but what can you guys know, you don't read real books.

>>24890587
AI writes better than most webnovelers thoughbeit.

>>24890605
I read neither the Journal of Forensic Document Examination nor the Journal of Facade Design and Engineering, although the latter does sound interesting so I'm going to check it out later.
It's poor form to post an acronym without first defining it. Type the full title out at least once, the first time you refer to it in a thread, THEN use the acronym once the subject of discussion is known.

>>24890606
You could train a third worlder with a thesaurus, a dice and some charts to write like AI
>“His [noun] was [adjective], [synonym adjective], [another synonym]. It [verbed] through him like [d him like [metaphor involving fire/knives/lightning].”

>>24890610
Sorry, Journey of the Fate Destroying Emperor.

>>24890618
Your point is that you could train writers, to which my answer would be: no shit. AI does not make great art, but it does write more competently than the majority of people are capable of. Trained or not some fuckers in India, China, or Africa, aka the majority of people alive today aren't going to match a trillion monkey on a typewriter. And AI has a way to go still before it stops improving.

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Fuck reverend chinksanity, pic related is unironically the peak of webnovel

can we have the RIfag back please it's a lot more tolerable than this stupid cunt reading a couple of sentences of ""real literature"" and trying to lord it over people he's decided need his erudition

>>24888780
This >>24890642
Try reading the first 10 chapters

>>24890597
Eat your semantics, AI writing is total word salad that falls apart if only you stop to think about it a little.

>read Worm expecting superhero fiction
>it's actually an east-coast Obama-era progressive author fantasizing about killing comically evil racist white people masquerading as a superhero fiction
Even putting aside the obviously politically motivated cuck shit which the author does for asspats, you can tell he really enjoys writing scenes where he makes the E88 henchmen comically evil so he can do whatever he wants to them.
I have to give him credit though, his big gambit at creating evil racist crackers is essentially having them thing black people are typically known to do and then painting a swastika over it.
Also his worldbuilding is dogshit and makes zero sense.
If you isolate the "super hero" aspects of the story it's bang average at best with the exception of action scenes, which he's quite good at writing.

>>24890125
Onomatopoeia is good for comics, not prose. I'd only ever use one if I were trying to be funny.

>>24889950
I swear, you talk more about your methods of generating AI covers than your actual writing process. How's the goddamn story coming along, you Marilyn Manson dork?

>>24890678
Finishing up the first big fight. I don't talk much about writing because... Well this thread isn't really about writing, let's be honest. I don't come here expecting to receive or give writing advice or crit. I've received more actual constructive crit from a rando who happened to find my writing through my account on a random meme site than from this thread.

My writing methodology is put on dysmn, start a sprint in any given discord server, and Just Do ItTM
I don't think about the actual how and why of where I reference something or where I use a particular phrase lifted from something I've read, I just try to make it feel right and my readers seem to like it, that's all
you want to go read my shit and give me free editing you can feel free https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/138074/zanma-pt-puppetmaster-travelogue-no-cheat-psychic

also the method of generating ai images is like wishing with a genie who is equally retarded and malicious but lets you keep retrying
you just keep rolling the dice until it's close enough and then make adjustments

>>24890668
you should go google what the term prose does and does not include

>>24890689
>start a sprint in any given discord server,
What? You write on Discord? What's wrong with word processors?

When Midjourney was really bad, I would generate a ton of similar stuff and then smash it all together in photoshop. Eyes crooked? Hair the wrong color? Too many fingers? It's just faster to erase and chop things together manually. Nowadays AI is so much better, especially with the right Loras, but I still use photoshop to compose the actual elements together.

>>24890652
It's hilarious because the webnovel writer I can think of who uses the most words like that (the neon dragons and albright system guy) is fucking terrible

>>24890721
no no, I write in gdocs
i use a bot called sprinto to help me keep myself accountable, you set a timer and other people can join and it then counts how many words you wrote in the given time (self-reported) and compares them
i mostly use it by myself because, as i said, it helps me keep myself accountable and stay on track

>>24890689
Your story description
>He practiced no lost, one-of-a-kind technique and possessed no artifact that would permit him to advance ten times faster than his peers.

That's an odd usage of a comma. You could connect them with "or".

>>24890642
I just read the first two chapters and it's genuinely bad. 1st pov, consciousness stream, just juvenile and retarded.

It would be cool to have a novel with a protagonist who cultivates the Dao of Transformation.

>>24890754
tranny allegory

What do you have that ChatGPT doesn't?

>>24890769
https://youtu.be/l0YKga795KE?si=K6j1edtQjKTytA4_
I stopped using chatgpt thoughbeit. I prefer Claude.

>>24890766
Nothing wrong with that. In RI a special transformation gu even saved Bai Ning Bing's life and turned him into a female

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I got married to the guild receptionist but she's secretly...?!

>>24890796
A fellatio artist?

>>24890669
The cape subgenre is filled with those types because of Marvel and their BS.
>>24890777
If I was rich af, I'd commission a bunch of porn artists to poison the well and make Fang Yuan a trans icon out of spite.

>>24890804
>>24890669
for me it's the manga akametsu, just a dude killing bankers

>>24890804
>If I was rich af, I'd commission a bunch of porn artists
>to poison the well and make Fang Yuan a trans icon out of spite.
lol you are so clueless, you should unironically read RI, you might learn a thing or two.

It's true the RI mc is already trans

>>24890842
Trans and non binary at the same time

>>24890262
>>24889950
I recently started reading this series and I prefer these covers. I'm actually into androgenous traps but that other cover (>>24889864) leans too far into thirsty girlish territory for my liking. I think it's the pose: the way his spine bends.

>>24889864
Akasofag, you promised me he wasn't a femboy
Also that pose and the position of the two makes me think is some gay smut between a femboy and the terminator

>>24890766
No, like, super straight. But getting stronger and smarter and such.

>>24890865
>click on cover, expecting smut or at least thirst trap
>look inside
>the entire first arc is just a prolonged nitty-gritty battle sequence against pirates with a bunch of gore
we play the game that we must

>>24890863
yeah that's fair i would edit it to have less of that vibe if i could
still might, there's always the possibility of change

>writing takes longer than reading
>get sucked into a story
>binge read it
>catch up to current chapter
>it'll take years before the writer can write enough for me to have another filling binge of their story
give all authors neural link

Which of the big RR stories are most worth reading iyo?

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>>24890886
>implying authors stop writing for the day because our fingers get tired

>>24890886
Everyone should just be like RavensDagger and write 5 stories at the same time.

>>24890891
In my humble opinion and widely known bad taste:
>Azarinth Healer
>1% Lifesteal (reader beware, secretly a cultivation novel)
>Beware of Chicken
>The Pinnacle Warrior
>Cat Girl Evolution
BTDEM worth reading up to the end of book 3, stop before they reach the wall. If you get to a part where Elaine accidentally curses someone, you've gone too far.

>>24890896
get faster fingers!

>>24890900
god i wish i were able

>>24890910
AI

>>24890878
Are the fight sequences good?

>>24890912
Chud

>>24890891
I actually genuinely enjoy New Life As A Max Level Archmage.

>>24890916
i dunno, i wrote them, i'm not qualified to make such claims
go read it, there's not a shitload of it yet

>>24890900
I like RD (I'd adore SCS if the enemies were humans instead of boring tyranids) but it probably helps that they write one protagonist and just turn up and down different eccentricity dials depending on the book.

Which of the big RI arcs are most worth reading iyo?

>>24890902
i type really fast, the issue is either lacking ideas or mental exhaustion. i figure that's true for most authors.
even if you type really slow at like 30wpm that's still 1,800 words an hour

>>24890922
>go read it
>cultivation slop
Pass

I find that I lean pretty heavily into character driven stories when writing. Do RR readers have a preference between character or plot driven stories?

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>>24889903
>>24889934
done

>>24890970
>Do RR readers have a preference between character or plot driven stories?
it's honestly pretty evenly split. either or

>>24890970
RR readers are very clearly divided between those who like character driven stories and don't care if nothing happens for various chapter and the ones who only cares about plot (read: action) and who only like dialogue if its some EPIC(tm) one-liner
>t. Tourist who just learned RR exist

>>24890976
Which is why presentation is so important. Even as niche as Royalroad is, there's a lot of different groups of readers there, and an author should know how to dog whistle the correct ones to the story

>>24890976
>t. Tourist
and yet you're spot on

>>24890974
>>24890976
>>24890979
>>24890981
Good to know, thanks anons. Guess there will be the tiniest modicum of a chance despite my story not being on the meta

>>24890970
You can obviously quibble any story but there's lots of stories near the top of the popular list that work because people want to spend time with their characters.
Super Supportive's an obvious one because that has infrequent action and some absolutely glacial parts where characters spend chapters just moving into university rooms and stuff and they were well received on the whole.
Obviously has more going for it than just characters but you can definitely have it as your main strength.

>>24890981
>and yet you're spot on
Because you can see this division in all entertainment
>/v/tards who only care about bing-bing wahoo and those who are Sony or Kojimbo fans who like moviegames
>/tv/fags who only care about cool action flick with cheesy dialogue or slashers and those who like stuff like my dinner with Andre
>m/a/nga weebs who skip all the dialogue or only watch anime through edits and those who fucking love those walls of text from HunterxHunter

Dialogue tags,,

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NGL my eyes just start glazing over when I'm reading a fight scene for too long.

>the time for trusting women's gone forever!
Never knew Homer was such a based chudcel desu

>>24891053
Wait until you hear about islam

>>24891052
The writer side of it: I end up staring at the page with no idea what to do when I get to a fight scene.

I find literally every other part of the story effortless to write. But as soon as I get to action I start drawing a blank and it ends up feeling like I wrapped it up way too quickly.

>>24891052
What melee or brawls i write are like a few sentences long, tops. Dogfights or shootouts might last like 2 paragraphs rops, and stuff like being in the thick of a skirmish or small–medium scale localized battles are interwoven into the chapter, but things like massive fleet battles ill happily overwrite though.

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>>24891052
I also tend to skip them. If the author takes more than five pages to provide a conclusion I start speedreading or even jumping across paragraphs. When I'm writing an ordinary action scene I just give it a curt conclusion because it's better used as a vehicle to get your characters to change scenes. The reason behind this feeling is that if all that combat doesn't seem like it's moving the plot forward, it's the equivalent of fighting through procedurally generated dungeons, and you'll just get bored of it quickly

>>24891074
Atrocious handwriting, you should feel ashamed
mine is even worse

>>24891052
I enjoy a good action scene but I also find myself glazing during an extended scene
I think a good action scene is hard to write

>>24891052
low cognitive rendering capacity behavior

>>24891078
Calligraphy is like a muscle, if you don't use it often It'll just snooze in the backburner. Back when I drafted technical drawing my words looked almost sexual, not they're ogrish because I've been typing on Word for months and only recently began annotating on paper to memorize concepts better

>>24890976
2nd part is wrong. Dialogue is preferred as long as it's clear and easy to understand. Descriptive paragraphs get skimmed through.
Combat should also be short and punchy, if you write a second to second play by play you'll bore them.

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>>24891095
This only applies to authors who haven't grasped the insight that writing fights is like writing dialogue and even sex scenes, and that they are functionally one and the same in terms of how you need to handle their flow.

A good fight isn't just kick punch jump etc etc, it's a dialogue between the characters. It should be written such that, if the characters were to start arguing ideology in the middle of it, it wouldn't feel out of place.

In terms of writing, a major fight between two significant characters isn't "a single fight" but "multiple fights," ideally interspersed or smoothly blended with dialogue.

>>24891106
you gotta stop making these lecturing posts when you have no idea what you're talking about

>>24891110
you don't know what is good and your bloodline will end with you

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>tfw love mechas stories
>want to write a mecha fiction
>check on other stories for inspiration (check out on Mecha Ace!)
>get overwhelmed and immersed by the amount of technical sci-fi lingo the authors deploy in every sentence of mecha combat
>realize I'll never be able to replicate this amount of autism
>go back to writing contemporary fiction

>>24891110
he's really the most annoying regular poster
worst than the two attention whores, who've for the most part have settled down
actual moron

>>24891124
the Mech Touch is the opposite
it bored me to fucking tears how "i have only played mechwarrior and read dogshit wuxia novels" it was

>>24891137
>>24891110
nice samefag, samefag
inb4 inspect element edited screenshot "proof" of not samefag
change up your writing style next time

Melty incoming

>>24891138
>Mech Touch
I can barely imagine impostor syndrome that writing space cultivation with mecha disguises would ensue

For a writing thread there's a heaping lot of bad writing in here.

>>24891220
/lit/ doesn't read
/v/ doesn't play games
/wng/ and /wg/ doesn't write

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>>24889343
I'll have to give shrinking a shot. Beats having a pretty bloated outline I think. I needed to get into the process of rewriting it for act 2 and 3 anyway.

>>24890273
Thank you, man. What you wrote here is basically the scene I had in mind.

In a litrpg should Perception be an attribute like Strength?

>>24891294
Do you want to write with Perception being a stat in mind? Do you believe it would make the novel better/more interesting? If yes, then yes. If no, then no.

>>24891225
i write, just not very regularly.

>>24891295
I do have some ideas on how to integrate Perception as a stat. Eg someone that's so accurate that they're held back by the ability to see rather than their ability to aim at what they see. Or a high level of perception is needed to be able to learn high level magic.
What I'm worried about are pitfalls like with intelligence being a stat. I'm also unsure if it's worthy enough of being a separate attribute need to things like strength and dexterity. Maybe it should be an ability based on some other stat like intelligence.

>>24891294
At first I decided not to, but I changed my mind later and added it in explicitly. However, I don't put numbers on things (at least in my current story). This lets me fudge things, and write in "and then she detected the attack coming from behind" in such a way that it makes sense and looks cool.

The issue is that it's kind of broken, and that character is much harder to surprise. Now, I still can surprise her, but it has to be either a betrayal of expectations (some character acts in a way not expected), or someone's stealth has to be that much better.

I also tied this directly to the five senses, plus a sixth sense for magic.

Just be careful with stats. RR readers get crazy autistic about them.

>>24891137
i don't necessarily agree with his posts but at least he posts earnestly about writing and web novels
95% of posts are nonsense whining or outright trolling that doesn't contribute anything and i suspect you're part of why this thread slowly died

>>24887816
>2300 chapters
I wonder what the word count is at this point

>>24891367
This is pretty inevitable, desu. Put as many hard numbers into your litrpg as you like, you'll wind up fudging if you care about the story at all.