Can we have a thread where we discuss language learning and share textbooks, free from the low iq coomers in the /int/ /Lang/ thread? If you want to discuss your waifus to watch and post porn, go to /int/.
I'll start by sharing some old textbooks for German.1868https://archive.org/details/cu319240312698421880https://archive.org/details/erstesdeutsches00wormgoog1881https://books.google.com/books?id=bOhEAAAAIAAJ1889https://archive.org/details/germanreaderforb00branrich1901https://archive.org/details/interlinear-german-reading-book-hahn-thimm-1901-marlborough1912https://archive.org/details/agermangrammarf00bacogoog1915https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015030860343Peter Hagboldthttps://archive.org/details/heathchicagogerm03hagbhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89101486454https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=osu.32435009488982https://archive.org/details/inductivereading0002petehttps://archive.org/details/inductivereading00hagbhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b312900
>>24905503This thread is gonna get deleted for being offtopic. Maybe make it about foreign language literature, /FLL/?Anyway I'm looking for a natural method book for learning german that isn't ridiculously old.
some more old readershttps://archive.org/details/agermanreaderfo04hussgooghttps://archive.org/details/agermanreaderfo00compgooghttps://archive.org/details/agermanreaderfo06joyngooghttps://archive.org/details/germanreaderforb00haerhttps://archive.org/details/agermanreaderfo00rlgooghttps://archive.org/details/germanreaderfor00rlgooghttps://archive.org/details/bwb_S0-AGH-331
>>24905516https://archive.org/details/deutsch-nach-der-naturmethodehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhc0J7rC_vQMUBIVdaj---V5https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137935102
>>24905503is there anything better than Assimil for french, and Lingua Latina per se Illustrata + Wheelock's Latin for latin?
>>24905539Thank you!
I'm reading Gautier atm, he's pretty good
>>24905509Downloaded the Peter Hagboldt books from the Int thread the other day. Very intuitive.
>>24905554I haven't tried Assimil, but these are some of my favorites for French:https://archive.org/details/tudeprogressiv00steruofthttps://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhflcVugPunItKw7Bpdhpi_Ohttps://archive.org/details/jensen-arthur-le-francais-par-la-methode-naturehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdIS7NMcdUdxibD1UyzNFTPAlso check out the other French books on his youtube channel:https://m.youtube.com/@AyanAcademy/playlistsCtrl+f "french"Ctrl+f "francais"Do both searches to get them all.If you're going to use Worman's First French Book use this printing, most copies online are from a printing which had some typos:https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044086595022
>>24905503Don't do textbooks. Just grind Anki and then read a children's book in your TL, slowly upgrade to more complicated texts. That's how I learned French and Portuguese.
>>24905554>Lingua Latina per se Illustrata + Wheelock's Latin for latin?There are many books for Latin, I don't know if any are better than those. Have a look at the complementary materials in the Lingua Latina series, such as Neumann's Companion.Familia Romanahttps://archive.org/details/familia-romanaaudiohttps://archive.org/details/familia-romana-and-colloquia-personarum-audio-files>>>/t/1344565exercitia latinahttps://dn721508.ca.archive.org/0/items/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata_202506/Lingua%20Lat%C4%ABna%20per%20s%C4%93%20ill%C5%ABstr%C4%81ta/Pars%20I/Exercitia%20Lat%C4%ABna%20I.pdfcolloquia personarumhttps://dn721508.ca.archive.org/0/items/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata_202506/Lingua%20Lat%C4%ABna%20per%20s%C4%93%20ill%C5%ABstr%C4%81ta/Pars%20I/Suppl%C4%93menta/%C3%98rberg%2C%20Colloquia%20pers%C5%8Dn%C4%81rum.pdfneumann companionhttps://leftychan.net/edu/src/1608528074592-0.pdfanswer keyhttps://dn721508.ca.archive.org/0/items/lingua-latina-per-se-illustrata_202506/Lingua%20Lat%C4%ABna%20per%20s%C4%93%20ill%C5%ABstr%C4%81ta/Teacher%27s%20Materials.pdf01 https://files.catbox.moe/zj3yws.mp402 https://files.catbox.moe/3t7sc3.mp403 https://files.catbox.moe/1cjlwe.mp404 https://files.catbox.moe/5ljwg8.mp405 https://files.catbox.moe/etzxkw.mp406 https://files.catbox.moe/0kh9gs.mp407 https://files.catbox.moe/1hntqg.mp408 https://files.catbox.moe/559z4u.mp409 https://files.catbox.moe/heuw4i.mp410 https://files.catbox.moe/n9gpgw.mp411 https://files.catbox.moe/zvf2dc.mp412 https://files.catbox.moe/a0art4.mp413 https://files.catbox.moe/n580tf.mp414 https://files.catbox.moe/h2eikt.mp415 https://files.catbox.moe/rqbjv6.mp416 https://files.catbox.moe/wi5xus.mp417 https://files.catbox.moe/ht9noe.mp418 https://files.catbox.moe/9ospv5.mp419 https://files.catbox.moe/9o2h9f.mp420 https://files.catbox.moe/r1bafj.mp421 https://files.catbox.moe/x6y9sd.mp422 https://files.catbox.moe/65vrqi.mp423 https://files.catbox.moe/2tybr2.mp424 https://files.catbox.moe/5nlup0.mp425 https://files.catbox.moe/kwehqn.mp426 https://files.catbox.moe/7rim8t.mp427 https://files.catbox.moe/464bxv.mp428 https://files.catbox.moe/f2k98o.mp429https://files.catbox.moe/kfoafs.mp430https://files.catbox.moe/xmf1qc.mp431https://files.catbox.moe/2svzr7.mp4There are also these two books:https://archive.org/details/jenneys-first-year-latin-1984https://archive.org/details/latinfortodayfir0000gray
>>24905503There are many languages. Thousands. Before you'd master the last one, you might have forgotten the first. So what do they áll have in common? Look for patterns, Anon.
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>>24905742Glad you liked it. His books are great. There are some more on libgen but I haven't been able to find books six to ten of his graded reader series. They are on archive.org but you need to register and borrow, I've never done that but maybe I should.https://libgen.li/index.php?req=peter+hagboldt
>>24905705Seems like a pretty advanced level.
https://archive.org/details/heathchicagogerm02hagb
>>24906715Six to Ten can be downloaded in PDF here (no registration needed if you use any of the slow download links):>https://annas-archive.org/md5/9978cb6ddf9c90dd554a0e9be8810a7d
https://archive.org/details/heathchicagogerm02hagb_0
https://archive.org/details/elementarygerman01unse
>>24906802Thanks. I thought searching on libgen turned up everything that's on annas but apparently not.
>>24906814I believe Anna's is a superset of Libgen, but it also includes several other collections. For instance the majority of "borrow only" Internet Archive books are on there now. Looks like they're still working on mirroring Hathi, which would be very convenient...>https://annas-archive.li/datasets
>>24906857I read the first lines of book six and the exact same text is in one of his other books, or someone else's book, don't remember which book but I saw it recently.
https://annas-archive.org/md5/3ae1859bedbd584ffcbdf1c839207dcc
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137980013
https://archive.org/details/newfirstspanishb00jamerich
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=136898262
https://annas-archive.org/md5/c978003645a26b54f7950b316dc17c48https://archive.org/details/LitalianoSecondoIlMetodoNaturahttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhfQonvCySTrKEUV742WzshJhttps://archive.org/details/storiesfromital00panigoog
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German Review and Composition, Peter Hagboldthttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89101486629
Word book :for Booklets 1-10 of the Graded German readers comprising 1375 words and 273 idioms with accents, grammatical forms, and English equivalents /prepared by Peter Hagboldt and Bayard Quincy Morganhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89101488161
Why are you not on >>>/int/ where you belong?
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89051488765
https://archive.org/details/deutschesbuchna00wormgooghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Erstes_Deutsches_Buch.djvuhttps://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Erstes_Deutsches_Buch
https://archive.org/details/studienundplaude00sterrich
German novella with notes and vocabularyhttps://annas-archive.org/md5/8aa87602ee248fef4e888df27145c0bdsame as >>24908833 but in normal font instead of Fraktur
https://archive.org/details/elementsofgerman00haerrich
>that retarded swede posts his worthless links heregood, do not come back
https://archive.org/details/cu31924031269891https://archive.org/details/cu31924031287216https://archive.org/details/cu31924031269842https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b311618https://archive.org/details/deutschesecho00wolf
Learning this shit in order to read Karel Capek, Vancura and Otakar Brezina
>>24905742Interestingly they changed it for the 1992 version. They also added a subversive story at the end.1992 version with a subversive short story added at the endhttps://annas-archive.org/md5/2076803aab2c577235a108f6e5fd471boriginal from 1933https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b312900
>>24905911wow! thanks a lot!
>>24910558why??? Capek is really, really not great, quite a mediocre writer. ancient greek would do you so much better, and both are about as complex as each other. in fact czech I would say is more complex in many ways than ancient greek. more cases, 4 genders, about 5 ways of saying 'or', about 18 ways of saying 'the same'. it's an utterly useless language apart from if you live there. don't waste your time with it. there are so many more useful languages you can learn. I wish I could unlearn it.
>>24905503The best way to learn any language is through total active immersion, using grammar and vocab resources to beef up your weaknesses. Language is after all, a social mechanism, and you'll never learn it properly unless you learn it socially. Even if you spend hours and hours teaching yourself Russian or Mandarin or whatever via textbooks, it will all fall apart as soon as you start speaking with natives irl.
>>24905503don't tell jordie
should I learn German or Russian next? I have an intruitive understanding of seven grammatical cases, so both of these will be easy in that regard. but in terms of literature?
>>24905742You probably got the screenshot from this link:https://archive.org/details/elementarygerman01unseThat's the 1957 edition. Picrel is the full page.The image I posted in this post >>24911263 is from the 1992 edition.same pic here: https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1764333275254537.jpgthat's this book: https://annas-archive.org/md5/2076803aab2c577235a108f6e5fd471bthe original from 1933:https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b312900the same page: blob:https://babel.hathitrust.org/a719423f-c466-4771-abd1-2ad3f1c2c3edthe next page: blob:https://babel.hathitrust.org/05e98779-d20b-47be-8531-deab78bd5e20All these three editions/books are from the publisher D.C. Heath and Company. In the 1933 and 1957 editions the author is stated as Peter Hagboldt. In the 1992 edition the authors are stated as William Crossgrove and Hannelore Crossgrove, but they took Peter Hagboldt's text and did a few changes to it, and added a story at the end by Doris Dörrie called Ohne Gepäck, which is subversive trash. As far as I can tell the 1933 and 1957 editions are identical except the 1957 edition has pictures, but I haven't gone through both in depth, there might be differences I haven't seen. The 1992 edition has some changes in the text, for example the part about Rothschild is gone, and it has the added subversive story at the end.So 1933 and 1957 editions contain these 5 books, which were also published as separate booklets:AllerleiFabelnAnekdoten und ErzählungenEulenspiegel und MünchhausenFünf berühmte MärchenThe 1992 edition contains the same 5 books, edited, and at the end the modern short story Ohne Gepäck by Doris Dörrie which is trash.Interestingly the 1992 edition is called "erste Stufe" (first step/level one) but it seems they never published a "zweite Stufe" for whatever reason. They probably planned to take books 6-10 and do a book for that with some modern trash short story added to it. We have books 6-10 though: https://annas-archive.org/md5/9978cb6ddf9c90dd554a0e9be8810a7d
>>24912698Picrel is in Essential German Grammar from Routledge. This is why I prefer old textbooks. In Graded German Reader by Crossgrove, the story at the end, Ohne Gepäck by Doris Dörrie, is about a guy and a girl who don't know each other who meet on a train and begin to cuddle.Better to use something like this instead of that modern grammar:https://archive.org/details/cu31924031269842This is Essential German Grammar from Routledge, which is where picrel is from:https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=136881625https://annas-archive.org/md5/5e5b2ae5ff38f8ef45cf308b78687d05
>>24912758here's a google-translated picture
>>24912424>Language is after all, a social mechanismThat's a very common opinion but I disagree, it's a lot more than just that.>you'll never learn it properly unless you learn it sociallyYeshiva students parse Hebrew scripture, they don't speak Biblical Hebrew with each other at the water cooler. Language is a very broad subject, chatting is a tiny fraction of all it encompasses.>it will all fall apart as soon as you start speaking with natives irlI have no desire to speak with natives irl.
>>24906614man why'd i have to laugh at this
>>24912429Not sure what you mean by intuitive understanding. The understanding part of cases is the least problem, it's pretty easy to understand, the issue is memorizing the paradigms and the genders. Don't know why you bring it up if it's not something that's a difference between Russian and German and you're choosing between these two. I'd go with German before Russian, just seems bigger and more important, but it depends on individual preferences, German used to be the top language for philology, philosophy etc at least in the West, probably has more books, but the Russian culture sphere is somewhat isolated from the West so for expanding your horizons I wouldn't dismiss Russian, I'd just personally prioritize it lower than German.
>>24912353I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I taught myself french well enough to carry conversations and read literature in the language without difficulty through essentially using French by the Natural Method and listening to the audio over and over. Then you can just start reading french books and going slowly. Buy a cheap french grammar if you don't already know a romance language Separately, does anyone have any good recommendations for Persian, Levantine Arabic, or Russian?Russian is easier to find, but "natural method" books in persian or an arabic dialect seem sadly impossible, and much less so with audio
>>24912353>>24912979there's also thishttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=136467539https://annas-archive.org/md5/0d4c350c2edcbdec4bbe6a95cca6d5ddI linked James H Worman's First French Book earlier, he also wrote a few other books for French. Don't know if they're any good. I've only read parts of First French Book myself. Some of these seem to be entirely in French even though they're not natural method readers, weird thing of questionable value but whatever.https://archive.org/details/coursdefranaisd00wormgooghttps://archive.org/details/lchodeparisfrenc00wormhttps://archive.org/details/questionnairesup00wormhttps://archive.org/details/secondfrenchboo00wormhttps://archive.org/details/teachershandbook00wormhttps://archive.org/details/grammairefranais00wormSome other books I found:https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000006968175https://archive.org/details/wholefrenchlangu00robehttps://archive.org/details/keytowholefrench00robehttps://archive.org/details/frenchdialoguess00storuofthttps://archive.org/details/premierlivredele00unseThis is one of the books Ayan Academy has some audio for on his channel, which I linked here >>24905911, he has some materials for Russian too.Google FSI courses, they have many languages, there are also websites which put together the audio from the cassette tapes with the text in one page.https://www.livelingua.com/course/fsi/french---basic-course-(volume-1)https://dominik-peters.de/fsi/https://www.fsi-language-courses.org/fsi-french-basic-course-revised/https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/FSI/Russian/Active%20Introduction/FSI%20-%20Russian%20Active%20Introduction%20-%20Student%20Text.pdfhttps://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/FSI/Russian/FAST/FsiRussianFast-Lessons1-5.pdfhttps://archive.org/details/FSIRussianFAST/FSI+Russian+FAST+-+Tape+1.mp3
>>24908833>>24909079This is above my level. But this book has all the words in the vocabulary at the end of the book, plus the footnotes, so it might not be impossible, and in fact it's probably meant for someone who normally wouldn't be able to read that text. I also cheated a little with google translate. I already tried reading Die Verwandlung with google translate, pretty fun. There is an English translation but it's not a literal translation so google translate is probably better.https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22367I also tried reading these:https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/grimm/maerchen/index.html
https://annas-archive.org/md5/ab79507de63510aa4ec53b47d7b94e77https://youtu.be/hbL6EdbV1qY
>>24913065don't know why all my screenshots are so fucking grainy, fuck my piece of shit computer
>>24913065Got so mad at my worthless computer I forgot to post this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieder_line_by_line
>>24912408I would say Irish or Icelandic is way better for literature than Czech.
interlinearsGerman/Englishhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t79s32d6phttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hwsrk2https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101068569563https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn1dgxhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=dul1.ark:/13960/t1hh91g4xhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101050418035https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951002132471nhttps://archive.org/details/gospelofstjohnad0000unsehttps://archive.org/details/germelshausen-gerstacker-interlinear-translation-isaac-bachman-1916Latin/Englishhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn27s4
>>24913267I generally like interlinears but I think literal interlinears are of questionable value when they don't have another line for good English.da gab esthen gave itthat's a bad English translationYou have to scroll to page 170 in the book to have it explained as indicated by the number in parentheses.
>>24913290One option is to find an English translation and read it alongside, sentence by sentence.https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t79s32d6phttps://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2825/pg2825-images.html#link2HCH0001https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undine_(novella)
>>24913267>https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hwsrk2In this one it was pretty hard to read the print, so here are two books to help with that:https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/schiller/tell/tell11.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/wilhelmtell00sch
>>24913452Absolutely beautiful textbook though so it's a shame.
>>24912934right. +1 for german then. thanks anon
>>24913065The Anna's Archive link there isn't the most legible thing in the world. This is more legible, but it doesn't have all pages:https://books.google.com/books?id=XMt5kAa0vVECStill I think it's a pretty cool way to learn German; with lieder, ie classical music set to actual poems. The example I posted is composed by Schubert while the poem is written by Schiller. The most famous lied is perhaps Erlkönig, music by Schubert, poem by Goethe:https://youtu.be/JS91p-vmSf0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlk%C3%B6nig
https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/6788/pg6788-images.htmlhttps://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/77182/pg77182-images.html
https://youtu.be/zOCL4n5miAYcomposer: Franz Liszttext: Friedrich Schiller (in the play Wilhelm Tell that I posted)Es lächelt der See, er ladet zum Bade,Der Knabe schlief ein am grünen Gestade,Da hört er ein Klingen,Wie Flöten so süß,Wie Stimmen der EngelIm Paradies.Und, wie er erwachet in seliger Lust,Da spielen die Wasser ihm um die Brust.Und es ruft aus den Tiefen:Lieb Knabe, bist mein!Ich locke den Schläfer,Ich zieh ihn herein.
>>24906169How did you learn to have conversations in french and portuguese by doing that? I am in a situation where I have been immersed in the target language for six years, but my mouth refuses to participate, drastically lowering my quality of life inside the immersion program, I'm starting to think it be selective mutism. I listen to shows in my TL, & mouth back what they're saying. I use to be speaking every word but when I would speak to humans everything would come out jumbled. Nobody who is meant to be coaching me wants to help, they just use their position to put themselves in a place where they can sex with beautiful women.
>>24912429I am learning german to seduce Lena klum and Russian to seduce ever Anderson.
>>24912424Doesn't that youtuber xiaoync learn a language entirely from studying and then impress natives with his fluency?
>>24906614I dont get it.
>>24916035I only learned the language to read books so I can't help you. My plan was to one day hire a French tutor who would help me with pronunciation. I mean, to learn I've watched a lot of video content, so I can 100% understand what people are saying, but using my mouth to communicate is another ballgame.
>>24916035There are apparently AI apps now in which you talk to the app and it talks back. I haven't tried any myself. Ask chatgpt.com about such apps. Report back if you tried any and let us know if they were good or not.
Thoughts on conlangs?I'm thinking of learning them mostly to get perspective, mostly perspective on grammar. In Toki Pona there are no subordinate clauses, and Lojban claims to have no syntactic ambiguity, these things interest me. I do find it a little bit annoying though that conlangs seem to often make up their own grammar terminology, rather than stick to the established terminology in linguistics and grammar.Toki Ponahttps://youtu.be/5phj5Ae80h8https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toki_Pona_words#List_of_wordsEsperantohttps://esperanto12.net/en/01/Lojbanhttps://lojban.pw/en/books/learn-lojban/
Does anyone have any recommendations for learning about general grammar, not specific to any language? Or is it better to just learn some language for getting a deeper understanding of grammar? Here are some books, although some of them seem a little English-centric.https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137170227https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:General_principles_of_grammar_(IA_GeneralPrinciplesOfGrammar).pdfhttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00sacygooghttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00roemgooghttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=135780120https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044097041594https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=oxu1.602368581I also think it seems good to learn about Aristotelian logic, logic and grammar were really one thing in the past. So talk about propositions, categorematic vs syncategorematic terms etc is all relevant for understanding grammar.https://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Ockham/Summa_Logicaehttps://www.logicmuseum.com/authors/ockham/summalogicae/ockhamsummalogicae.htmhttps://archive.org/details/peter-kreeft-socratic-logicNov 14, 2023 https://youtu.be/-CUcYOT2BzcNov 24, 2023 https://youtu.be/_0-EM6hr4IcDec 6, 2023 https://youtu.be/fREgfDIlSPcDec 29, 2023 https://youtu.be/Ug4IdNt0mfkFeb 19, 2024 https://youtu.be/lvB7J8gphSwFeb 23, 2024 https://youtu.be/MJy7a7_H83gApr 2, 2024 https://youtu.be/KCag3jyc1o8Apr 29, 2024 https://youtu.be/bmeOyIMDvXkJul 3, 2024 https://youtu.be/--ZcD6Odm-4Jul 4, 2024 https://youtu.be/ajEXwvfriE8Jul 26, 2024 https://youtu.be/vVYconX8lzQSep 15, 2024 https://youtu.be/SAqSxwY4cecJune 26, 2025 https://youtu.be/Z3k7eLRiwOISep 26, 2025 https://youtu.be/EINouOeV0Ak
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hxjnv6
All these books have something about grammar in them.Logic, or rational thoughts on the powers of the human understanding : with their use and application in the knowledge and search of truthhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000003010372here's the originalhttps://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb11274135this is a book Immanual Kant used when teaching his studentshttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hh1tinwhich is a condensed version of thishttps://archive.org/details/vernunftlehre00meieLogic, Isaac Wattshttps://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00wattaudiohttps://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivoxEasy Lessons on Reasoning, Richard Whatelyhttps://archive.org/details/easylessonsonrea00whatuoft
I am not OP>>24916018"Schläfer" as in "sleeper agent"?>>24912934I am going for Russian myself, as I am German native and already speak Spanish.Spanish is so very proud of their many synonyms on food. Recently I talked to a translator from the canary islands who spkoe german and english (as well as spanish). We were the same opinion: For thinking, German is best, English gets the job done. And, given, we did not talk very long and I had thought more about it than her, before; but on Spanish I said: "It has many words." as an upside. To which she agreed.
>>24917933samefagging>>24913290i like how it is translated.>>24913226i have anchestry in czech. this is why i am going for the slavic russian. any slav speaks it, although they hate it. and if they don't speak russian, they speak english. and if they speak neither, they lack education.
>>24917934samefagging>>24912839i was talking to a US-witch in the Andes about her Sanskrit studies. I made her say "I want warm water." She can already order food in Sanskrit.>>24912429there are more translations into german than any other language, if i am not mistaken.especially on old literature.a friend of mine is muslim and he learned arabic. man... the arabs have great concepts.but i go with russian, first. and then some.I really like Frederick Dodson in general. He wrote a book on how to learn a language.Also Ken Wheeler did for learning German. I am german native... so I never studied with his books.
>>24917936samefagging>>24912839i was talking to a US-witch in the Andes about her Sanskrit studies. I made her say "I want warm water." She can already order food in Sanskrit.>>24912429there are more translations into german than any other language, if i am not mistaken.especially on old literature.a friend of mine is muslim and he learned arabic. man... the arabs have great concepts.but i go with russian, first. and then some.I really like Frederick Dodson in general. He wrote a book on how to learn a language.Also Ken Wheeler did for learning German. I am german native... so I never studied with his books.
>>24917937samefagging>>24906614{hanziyuan.netintimate - elder brother - boydeepl.comNegro}IQ among them is low.>>24906297JDownloader is such a great tool.>>24906169thanks for the advice.The book "Fluent Forever" teaches Anki
>>24917939samefagging4chan didn't let me make one big post, because they deemed it spam.sorry.
>>24917936samefagging>Frederick Dodsonthe book on language might be worth the 10$ on amazon. but it is more of a teaser and motivator.I also know of the HSE-Method.https://www.hse-methode.combasically applies all the given strategies from dodson.and i like russianaccelerator.com using it alongside anki with https://method.fluent-forever.com/base-vocabulary-list/Mark thompson also has a course on Japanese: https://japanesemasterymethod.comand maybe to the liking of many here: also German.https://stressfreegerman.coma quick peek on reddit showed that is wasn't so stress-free after all.I focus on being understood in the target language. not to be correct. i get corrected by talking to the natives. this will be imersion: traveling there.
>>24917933>"Schläfer" as in "sleeper agent"?"Der Fischerknabe" (The Fisherboy), which begins with the line "Es lächelt der See" ("The lake smiles"), is a well-known German text originating from Friedrich von Schiller's famous 1804 play Wilhelm Tell. Context in Wilhelm TellThe song appears in Act I, Scene 1 of the play, set by the shore of Lake Lucerne. The young fisherman (Fischerknabe) sings this song in his boat just as the play opens, establishing the serene setting before a storm approaches and the drama of Swiss independence begins. The text is a nod to Germanic mythology, specifically the idea of a water spirit (a nixie or mermaid) luring a boy into the depths of the water. Musical SettingsSchiller specified that the song should be sung to the melody of a traditional Swiss folk tune (Kuhreihen or ranz des vaches). The text was notably set to music by Franz Liszt as the first of his three songs in the cycle Drei Lieder aus Schillers "Wilhelm Tell", S. 292. Liszt composed an initial version in the 1840s and revised it in 1859, creating what has been described as "pianistic water music of dazzling virtuosity". Other composers who have set translations or adaptations of the text include Edward Alexander MacDowell (English) and Aleksandr Tikhonovich Gretchaninov (Russian). Lyrics and TranslationThe original German lyrics and a standard English translation highlight the song's themes:German (Original) English TranslationEs lächelt der See, er ladet zum Bade, The lake smiles, so inviting to bathe,Der Knabe schlief ein am grünen Gestade. The boy slept on the green bank,Da hört er ein Klingen, wie Flöten so süß, Then, he hears a tinkling, as of sweet flutes,Wie Stimmen der Engel im Paradies. Like the voices of angels in paradise.Und wie er erwachet in seliger Lust, And as he awakens in blissful desire,Da spielen die Wasser ihm um die Brust, The waters now play against his breast,Und es ruft aus den Tiefen: Lieb' Knabe, bist mein! And a call from the depths: "Dear boy, you are mine!Ich locke den Schläfer, ich zieh ihn herein. I lure the sleeper, I draw him down."Performances of Liszt's composition are available on platforms like Spotify or YouTube. https://www.liederabend.cat/en/bloc/entrades/1150-schubertiada-2021-der-fischerknabe
>>24917980>And as he awakens in blissful desire,I think this is probably a bad translation. I don't think it's a sexual thing. Chatgpt says it means “blessed joy” or “blissful delight”, which agrees with the textbook I posted a screenshot from here >>24916018 The whole story is most likely metaphor though.
