What's the craic, lads? Any good books for learning the Irish language? Maybe something like the Lingua Latina book would be great.And do you think the Irish language can be revived? I heard Kneecap is making it extemely popular among the youth in Ireland these days.
In the normie sphere, Hozier is also keeping the Irish language in the zeitgeist. His last album had songs sung in Irish.
>>24909472Ah hell yeah my favorite thing. Outside of the world of literature the best program of study is the Buntús Cainte books IMO, especially seeing as the audio is recorded from proper native speakers, not those who speak Irish with a distinctly hiberno-english accent.If you actually can use the language well, start with poetry. Máire mhac an tSaoi, Seán Ó Ríordán, Louis de Paor ect.Rí Thoraí is an excellent nonfiction work, and has the Irish and English side by side. An t-Oileánach is similar (another nonfiction work about the Aran islands) and worth reading.As far as books translated INTO Gaelige, the hobbit (an hobad) is a fun read even if people love to bicker about the way they translated the word "elf." Pure nitpicking, read it.Irish does not a huge body of "proper literature," English being the language of the intellectual elite for centuries, the "modern Irish novel" as it has been explained to me began in the early 1900s with Séadna by Peadar Ó Laoghaire, which is a great but has to be worked up to in order to be grasped.There's also the Táin Bó Cúailnge, but I've only ever found translations into English as well as the old Irish (which I cannot read.) I'm sure a modern Irish translation exists and if anyone knows where to find I'd be very happy.
>>24909623I should also add that I'm a dirty yank who happens to be (mostly) fluent thanks to the efforts of my extended family, a good friend from Mayo who has studied with me for many years and a genuine love of the language and learning. I won't pretend I know what it's like to actually be Irish nor the relationship to the language in Ireland but perhaps revival is possible if learning the basics weren't compulsory in school. Making it a chore, something that's graded rather than a way to explore culture kills the joy of it. That's the same reason my Irish is better than my French despite "studying" French formally.
>>24909472Sorry, I'm all for language revitalization and all but nationalism only thrives under perceived threat, else people just do what they want. What are the Irish without the English? Palis without Jews? Armenians without Turks? Haitians without France? as their phantom oppressors driving culture, Since peace, the grievance structure just doesn't exist as a motivational bridge to get young people interested in bilingualism on their own in massive effort.
How do I learn Irish pronunciation/orthography?I know that I will never learn Irish as a full-ass language, but I would like to be able to pronounce Irish proper nouns decently, and every resource just glosses over the orthography.They (very sensibly!) expect learners to listen to recordings and work out how it connects to the orthography in the course of the lessons, but I don't want to do an entire introductory course just to be able to pronounce names.
>CraicCrack-not Craic, is an English word that the irish tried to claim as their own.Pretty pathetic to be honest.
>>24909472Had never heard of them, but that led me to this article published yesterday:>We’re a bit jealous of Kneecap’: how Europe’s minority tongues are facing the digital futurehttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/26/kneecap-europe-minority-languages
>>24910006northern England is surely naught but the threshhold between the orange haired's and the anglos; as much related as half-siblings
>>24909994Silian Murphy
>>24909647>Haitians without France?this is a dumb claimHaiti is a magical negro world whose only comtemporary connection to France is a shared language
>>249096394chan should have a language board /lng/
>>24910022Please elaborate.Disparate spoken Irish doesn't help me, this much I can get from Buntús Cainte videos mentioned above, but they all try to teach the spoken language first.I'm not really interested in grammar or vocabulary, I just want to be able to read written Irish out loud, without understanding anything. Or maybe Irish orthography is as fucked as English and that's impossible, but me not knowing that is a testament to how little importance the topic has in introductory courses.
>>24910006Saxo-Germanic master race wins again.
>>24910020>scotlandAnglos, Scots is a germanic language you taig spastic>>24910074If you want real crack try looking at the comments beneath that post full of taigs trying to cope and pretend that the word crack is of gaelic originthe absolute state of taigs
>>24909472Revived? It's still spoken.
>>24909994https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_orthography
>>24909472>And do you think the Irish language can be revived?Absolutely. We have 3 main dialects for 3 of the 4 provinces where Irish still survives. And in Dublin, in the province of Leinster where Irish as a daily language pretty much died out, a new Urban Irish dialect is growing. It’s a growth out of the Standard Irish taught in schools (which ironically was never spoken) and a mix of the other dialects from media and the fact everyone will have teachers from various provinces as they go through school.I do feel some sadness as a lot of Dublin speakers use english pronunciation (never heard a Dubliner say a slender “r” correctly unless they spent time in a Gaeltacht, always the english “r”) and grammar not found in “true” Irish but it’s also exciting seeing it grow in real time.
