How is he received outside the anglosphere?
>>24920061Didn't even know who he was before browsing this board.t. French
>>24920061buchstäblich wer?
>>24920061それは誰ですか?
>>24920061Ni nani huyo?
>>24920141
>>24920061Ik weet niet over wie je het hebt.
>>24920061literalmente quien?
>>24920061Angikaze ngizwe ngalo muntu empilweni yami.
>>24920061Considering that even Catholics have adopted his idea of Satan as a Nietzschean figure...
>>24920146Verwey en Gutteling wel.
>>24920061Polack here, haven't heard of him before I started browsing this board. I'm a STEMfag though.
>>24920061Who? That barbarian who writes a tedious commentary in ten books of rumbling verse, on the first chapter of Genesis? that slovenly imitator of the Greeks, who disfigures the creation, by making the Messiah take a pair of compasses from Heaven’s armory to plan the world; whereas Moses represented the Diety as producing the whole universe by his fiat? Can I think you have any esteem for a writer who has spoiled Tasso’s Hell and the Devil; who transforms Lucifer sometimes into a toad, and at others into a pygmy; who makes him say the same thing over again a hundred times; who metamorphoses him into a school–divine; and who, by an absurdly serious imitation of Ariosto’s comic invention of firearms, represents the devils and angels cannonading each other in Heaven? Neither I nor any other Italian can possibly take pleasure in such melancholy reveries; but the marriage of Sin and Death, and snakes issuing from the womb of the former, are enough to make any person sick that is not lost to all sense of delicacy. This obscene, whimsical, and disagreeable poem met with the neglect it deserved at its first publication; and I only treat the author now as he was treated in his own country by his contemporaries.
>Candide, seeing a Milton, asked the senator if he did not think that author a great man.“Who?” said Pococurante sharply; “that barbarian who writes a tedious commentary in ten books of rumbling verse, on the first chapter of Genesis? that slovenly imitator of the Greeks, who disfigures the creation, by making the Messiah take a pair of compasses from heaven’s armoury to plan the world; whereas Moses represented the Deity as producing the whole universe by his fiat? Can I, think you, have any esteem for a writer who has spoiled Tasso’s hell and the devil? who transforms Lucifer sometimes into a toad, and, at others, into a pigmy? who makes him say the same thing over again a hundred times? who metamorphoses him into a school-divine? and who, by an absurdly serious imitation of Ariosto’s comic invention of fire-arms, represents the devils and angels cannonading each other in heaven? Neither I nor any other Italian can possibly take pleasure in such melancholy reveries; but the marriage of Sin and Death, and snakes issuing from the womb of the former, are enough to make any person sick that is not lost to all sense of delicacy, while his long description of a lazar-house is fit only for a gravedigger. This obscene, whimsical and disagreeable poem met with neglect at its first publication; and I only treat the author now as he was treated in his own country by his contemporaries.”
>>24920061Nobody cares about Paradise Lost in continental Europe because of Faust being a superior work.
>>24920475That's true, but it's also somewhat unfair to compare his quirky one-shot with a piece of work that spans multiple decades.>>24920061Pompous pamphlets, fairly inaccessible otherwise.
>>24920649>Pompous pamphlets, fairly inaccessible otherwise.but enough about faust part 2
>>24920655kekBe fair, it's not a pamphlet.
>>24920061You can tell when Mexico has woken up by the presence of seething brown tradcaths in Paradife Loft threads
>>24920998Bafed
>>24920061He isn't.
>>24920998paradife loft is flop toughbeit
>>24920475Faust is actually crap compared with Paradise Lost. Lucifer is a far more interesting and sympathetic character. Also, the idea of Lucifer as a Hades-esque, brooding figure is an invention of Milton, so don’t lie and say Eurofags didn’t care about his work.
>>24920061>The other day I happened to take up Milton's Paradise Lost, which threw me into strange contemplations. In this, as in all other productions of modern art, it is the personality of the artist that gives interest to his work. The subject is detestable; externally not without a certain imposing grandeur, but internally worm-eaten and hollow. The springs of action, and the situations that belong to them, are in some few cases natural and effective; but the majority are lame and false, and give one pain to realise. At the same time, it is an interesting man who speaks to us: character, feeling, understanding, learning, poetical and oratorical genius, and other excellent qualities, he undoubtedly possesses in no common measure. Nay, more: the singular accident that, as a revolutionary politician, he paints the devil with more effective touches than the angels, has a great influence on the design and composition of the poem; and again, the accident of the writer being blind, adds not a little to the tone and colour of the book. Paradise Lost, therefore, notwithstanding its radical defects as a work of art, will maintain its place triumphantly in virtue of the majestic personality which it reveals.>I have lately read his 'Samson,' which has more of the antique spirit than any production of any other modern poet. He is very great, and his own blindness enabled him to describe with so much truth the situation of Samson. Milton was really a poet; one to whom we owe all possible respect.
>>24920061I only know about him because of Chateaubriand, whom translated Paradise Lost to French.
>>24921305>writing one character similar to another is an invention of Milton>writing one character in the underworld as another character in the underworld is an invention of Miltondo anglos really
Satan comes off as a petty, retarded faggot in Paradife Loft, so it's understandable why so many artists have thought him in the right.
>>24920083Of course you wouldn't, Pierre
>>24920061Psh, personally I much prefer Joost van den Vondel's take on Lucifer
>>24920061Mai sentito nominare
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>>24920255>>24920470>who disfigures the creation, by making the Messiah take a pair of compasses from Heaven’s armory to plan the worldHe isn't using the compasses to draw up a plan, he's drawing the boundaries of the universe. See Proverbs 8:27 and Job 26:10.
>>24924308It's a excerpt from a character that finds a way to shit on any piece of art. But also Raphael says his account of creation has been rendered in terms Adam will understand.
Voltaire was such a bitch. Paradise Lost was the best of all possible poems.
paradise lost is about secret societies.
>>24920061Italian here, I'm surprised at all the people in this thread who say that they didn't know him prior to browsing the board. I started getting into him when I was 12 or 13, but that's probably because I'm a sperg
>>24924532>Paradise Lost was the best of all possible poems.?