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What are /lit/'s thoughts?
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cmon no love for Marlowe?
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>>24920722
No
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>>24920722
i don't even know who that is anon and you didn't even include his name in the OP thread or at least the image so i can't even look him up even if i wanted to. but he looks like an early modern writer so it would probaly be a waste of my time even if i did.
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>>24920762
Beyond tired of zoomers. They are the dumbest generation to have ever lived, and they will make nothing profound or serious in their lifetimes.
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>>24920454
Marlowe's Faust is better than Goethe's Faust. Goethe's Faust is a towering work of art but he fucks up the fundamental moral of the story. Marlowe gets it right by having Faust dragged to Hell at the end. Faust is supposed to be a cautionary tale about making deals with the Devil, and a reminder that even the rich and the learned cannot escape the consequences of such deals. Goethe fucks it up.
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he looks like dfw
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>>24920454
A towering genius. Shakespeare was influenced by him for a reason.

Now clear the triple region of the air,
And let the Majesty of Heaven behold
Their scourge and terror tread on emperors.
Smile, stars that reign'd at my nativity,
And dim the brightness of your neighbour lamps;
Disdain to borrow light of Cynthia!
For I, the chiefest lamp of all the earth,
First rising in the east with mild aspect,
But fixed now in the meridian line,
Will send up fire to your turning spheres,
And cause the sun to borrow light of you.
My sword struck fire from his coat of steel,
Even in Bithynia, when I took this Turk;
As when a fiery exhalation,
Wrapt in the bowels of a freezing cloud,
Fighting for passage, make[s] the welkin crack,
And casts a flash of lightning to the earth:
But, ere I march to wealthy Persia,
Or leave Damascus and th' Egyptian fields,
As was the fame of Clymene's brain-sick son
That almost brent the axle-tree of heaven,
So shall our swords, our lances, and our shot
Fill all the air with fiery meteors;
Then, when the sky shall wax as red as blood,
It shall be said I made it red myself,
To make me think of naught but blood and war.
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>>24920454
I can't get over how unbelievably stupid that outfit looks
also his head looks too small for his body
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>>24920834
You mean that Goethe grows beyond the traditional moral and you won‘t stand it.
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>>24921177
That's an awesome suit, it's his stupid face that ruins the look.
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>>24921268
Robert Graves said a poet will always prove too strong for his clothes and look completely ridiculous or very magnificent according to the occasion.
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>>24921292
Okay well I don't think Marlowe looks magnificent but I do think his outfit does.
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>>24921249
Because the only thing that matters is Good vs evil

So Allah(Good) vs iblis evil. Yt people just want excuses to be gay and degenerate
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>>24920762
If you can’t recognize Kit Marlowe by appearance I don’t know what you’re doing on this board.
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I've found a degree of autonomy, freedom, and even creative inspiration in the lifestyle of modern refugees. Survival through squatting, petty theft, a complete dis-attachment from the system while still living off it's excess.

Lately my interests are less cultural, more criminal. Identity fraud, online scams, blackmail and extortion. These are probably the tools we will need to free ourselves. It's no coincidence that so many great men of history got their start, if not as the children of senators, then as vagabonds and highwaymen. At some point our generation, at least those with the will to survive, will have to hoist the black flag and set off far far far from 'the sinking ship' to take a new existence for themselves, by force or by fraud. It's fitting, in a way, that our century should resemble the Golden Age of Piracy, an ironic twist when so many seem to think it will be a repeat of the last century of wars and ideologies.

And in a lot of ways it will be better than what came before. More brutal, but more honest as well. More human.
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Doctor Faustus and Tamerlane are good
Dido the Queen of Carthage is okay
Edward II and Massacre at Paris are pretty bad
The Jew of Malta is hilarious
Though he was very innovative in form (blank verse), in plot and structure he can be pretty derivative. Shakespeare is too in a lot of ways, but his genius in characterization and the poetry of his writing often take the stock comedia del'arte plots to something original and transformative. Marlowe at his best is probably stronger dramatically than all but the greatest plays of Shakespeare, and I think that Doctor Faustus has a similar tone and force that makes Macbeth such a joy to watch. But the problem really is that behind the dramatic force there isn't much further depth. The characters in Marlowes plays feel almost epic or architypal, rather than the more complex and human figures of Shakespeare. The best juxtaposition being Shylock from Merchant of Venice vs Barabas from the Jew of Malta. Shylock, while still being a villain, has ample motivation for the specific antagonism he is pursuing against Antonio. He is as much the victim as the villain in the story, and his revenge is grounded in the progressive betrayal he suffers over the play, culminating in the famous court scene. It is a very personal drama. Barabas in the other hand, when suffering a similar fate, turns into an evil mass murderer who poisons wells and genocides nunneries because he's an evil jew who hates Christians. The second is very entertaining, it works well dramatically, but it doesn't have the same interest and pathos that Shakespeare provides. Doctor Faustus and Tamerlane are in truth the same, it's just that they are so well rendered that it is fine that they are simplistic in the way that they are.
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>>24920454
>/lit/
>thoughts



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