Is there any literature that examines the male homosexual or bisexual condition that ISN'T just smut written by fujos or political nonsense?
>>24922147Confessions of a Mask-MishimaGiovanni’s Room-BaldwinMaurice-Forster
>>24922147The symposium
>>24922147Dennis Cooper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Night>A young man (Rechy uses the term “youngman” when referring to hustlers) travels across the country while working as a hustler. The book focuses chapters on locations that the youth visits and certain personages he meets there, from New York City, to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New Orleans. Throughout the novel, the unnamed narrator has trysts with various peculiar characters, including another hustler, an older man, an S&M enthusiast and a bed-ridden old man. All of these relationships range in the extent of their emotional and sexual nature, as well as in their peculiarity.
>>24922147>IM GAY!>THEY DONT WRITE THINGS FOR GAY MEN LIKE ME IN CURRENT YEAR!!!lol. lmao. lmfao. roflmao.
>>24922147god I love cute boys>>24922265>novel about a guy fucking literal bedridden old menfucking gross dude
>>24922327The whole problem is that they do, and it's all awful garbage and smut. I don't want to read a diatribe about freeing myself from the internalized heteronormativity the patriarchy instilled in me through microaggressions or whatever and I don't want to read a 500 page slash fic written with one hand by a woman who weighs three hundred pounds either. I want something kind of like Brideshead Revisited, but different, being as I've already read that.
>>24922327They actually don't. All "gay" content you're seeing in everything is very clearly written for straight women with piercings and bob cuts who pretend to be bisexual and go to gay clubs so they can keep gays around as accessories. Actual gay men want art about beautiful young men dying tragically in war.
>>24922147Encyclopedia of Parasitology>>24922334>fucking gross dudeAll of gay lit written by gay men is fucking gross. I'd rather read a female written homo affair than deal with the pedophilia, BDSM, promiscuity, death worship, drug abuse, and torture omnipresent in all male written gay fiction. You can't find a homo writer who wrote a simple story of two men being in love without inserting some kind of abuse and perverse shit in there. What OP is searching is a nonexistent area in homosexual literature.Read Kramer. Read Burroughs. Read Cooper. It's all /b/ tier edgy shit.This>>24922265is normal homosexual fiction. The standard.
>>24922363>pedophilia, BDSM, promiscuity, death worship, drug abuse, and tortureAny recs with all 6?
>>24922335So write one.If you're a fag who feels under represented and wants to write a book for fags about being a fag, it is LITERALLY impossible that you will not get published.Write the book, submit with the email subject line "IM A FAG BTW". You will get published, I would bet a full months salary.
>>24922363>I'd rather read a female written homo affair than deal with the pedophilia, BDSM, promiscuity, death worship, drug abuse, and torture omnipresent in all male written gay fictionI wouldn't. The former some super lame and, well, gay
Yaoi should only be written by womenYuri should only be written by men
>>24922367>Any recs with all 6?OP's diary desu
>>24922367A little life
>>24922374Women cant experience yaoiMen cant experience yuriIts like saying that sex should only be written by virgin
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>>24922519Women can't experience yuri and men can't experience yaoi. Your point?
>>24922334>>24922335>>24922363It's weird, but the best homoromantic literature I've read has been on gay porn sites, tucked between the crusty old man blowjobs and grooming fantasies.I'm thinking for men, there is less of a fantasy in love and more of a mundane warmth that ought not be spectacle.
>>24922147Memoirs of Hadrian is genuinely pretty good, but written by a woman (in case that mere fact itself bothers you).
>>24922265>working as a hustlerprostitution is boring, gay whoring twice as boring.
>>24922147It's a deep dive but if you get to Proust's Sodom and Gomorrah you'll find the most dazzling writings on male homolust anywhere, to the point that the story's main straight romance feels disappointing, dare I say unpracticed, by comparison.>>24922327You don't think contemporary "queer" scenes have anything to do with gay men, do you? We haven't been welcome in LGBT for a long time now m8. Try talking to actual fags and you'll find we're nothing like that world and are actually not allowed to represent ourselves authentically much at all.
>>24922368The current meta requires that you be queer in some sense, at least for the big publishers. You have to renounce masculinity to be taken seriously, otherwise you're shunted to one of the conservative publishing ghettoes or the small press cottage industry. Also, that's not the point if you just want a book to read
Andrew Holleran is a good mainstream one who got grandfathered in before the new paradigm of gay literature, although you likely already know him. Bruce Benderson seems pretty interesting but I haven't read him yet
they wont publish a book like that because the honest examination would reveal that homosexuality stems from developmental aberrations in your childhood like being abused, groomed online, porn addiction etc.
Tonio Kröger. Excellent novella by Mann.
just watch gay porn
no one here said death in venice yet?
>>24922525What's *his* story?
>>24922363Closet fag here who is taking a crack at writing his first MM fiction since I can't find any that I quite like myself. I was gonna have a model with a pill addiction but now I'm wondering if that's too cliche. I do want a story where they come love each other and find comfort in one another...
>>24923006this. "LGBT" is actually just "Women."
>>24922335mistaking cause for symptom or something like that.gay lit is vapid because being gay is vapid.or at least, it's banal. you fuck dudes where they poop and/or viceversa; big deal. don't need to make it your whole personality.
>>24924041>gay lit is vapid because being gay is vapid.The Picture of Dorian Gray is more profound than anything ever written by heterokeks. Superficiality/hyper-sexuality is everyone in our time.
>>24923299True, but I think this gives homo stuff (especially that which seems innocent or naïve) a sort of tragic character that is hard to replicate elsewhere.
>>24922147The Confusions of Young Torless - Robert MusilDoesn't attempt to be some kind of analysis of homosexuality in general, but rather a specific form found in men only institutions that isn't necessarily "homosexuality" in the modern understanding as constituted by sexual desire, romantic sensibility, courtship, dating, lifestyle, etc.
>>24922147>t. biracial fujoshi
>>24923273That's not due to lack of publishing but lack of readership.I'm not a fag but I know a few and they're too busy having sex/fun to read. The only ones sitting at home reading are the wachowski looking mfers with the gray-alien body type. Just write for lesbians. There are like literally 8 dyke bars left in the US because they literally hate fun or doing anything. They'll read your books.
>>24924199Strange conclusion to reach regarding OP's identity. I'd assume he was a single 20-something white guy who thinks he's gay but is really just lonely and terminally addicted to porn.
>>24922363yeah I'll just stick to yaoi, they know how to draw cute boys that act cute. like the ones in OP's pic. not some disgusting shit about a 30-something twinkdead loser busting a 70 year old's crust while trying not to irritate his bedsores. fags are literally only tolerable, let alone attractive, if they're 2D.
>>24923686I was actually surprised by how much this is tauted as a groundbreaking trailblazing work about sexuality and gender only to read it and it's a whole bunch of nothing and sci-fi world building autism about climate and calendars and hours of the day
Burroughs OP's diary desu
