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Thoughts on the most recent Nobel laureate?
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>>24922856
I watched Werckmeister Harmonies and was not particularly impressed with his screenplay. The story presents itself as a somewhat obvious political allegory, collapsing a lot of the initial mysterious atmosphere into heavy-handed intimations of subtext. Not something Beckett would have written. Dialogue was mediocre. Didn't watch Satantango but the synopsis indicates the same allegorical modus operandi. Checked out the excerpts for his novels and none of the prose every stood out to me. But maybe there is some genius in there I simply have not yet encountered.
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>>24922856
Hungarians can't make a good or even merely enjoyable work of art to save their asses. No, making it longer and darker will not result in the book or film improving. They only know how to plop out longer, darker turds.
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>>24922953
To have a substantial opinion, you need to read the books he wrote, not simply watch the movies based on them. Retard.
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>>24922856
I've read Satantango and War and War. Both very good, but I don't think I'm interested in diving any deeper into his works
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>>24922856
>reaffirms the power of art
what power does his art posses specifically? I will read some of his books eventually.
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>>24922856
His best stuff is all set in Japan or China
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>>24922856
Easily the best laureate of the last 40 years.
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>>24922856
Satantango and Melancholy of Resistance are worthy of being modern classics. I don't really like the rest of his novels. The German one was pretty bad.
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>>24922856
>novels that 'reaffirm the power of art'
This is the sort of perfectly meaningless praise that only a critic could write.
It's on a par with "a monument to the human condition."
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>>24922856

The Nobel is a convenient index for who not to read, because in principle the candidates' work should have some sort of humanist or idealist meaning, and other such nonsense. In other cases, the work is simply interminable. I have a clear memory of reading Pär Lagerkvist's "The Dwarf" during high school, hating every last page of it, and beginning to understand the negative value which a Nobel applies to an author.
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>>24923254
He said Orban is le bad and Ukraine is le good. It's a shame, because he is genuinely one of the greatest living writers, but it's clearly a political move.
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>>24922856
Butt buddies with Ginsberg, also jewish like Ginsberg (if his two last books being satires of lower class chuds hasn't given that away already), is completely ignorant about the histories and cultures of China and Japan despite writing a fair amount on both countries (IIRC he said that he likes Chinese culture better than the West because it values the intellectual more than the populist West does, even though everyone knows that confucianism is suuuper conservative). Almost certainly won as a fuck you to Orbán who is quite likely to lose the elections next year. Did I mention he's jewish? Yeah, he's jewish.
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>>24923618
What did you think of War and War? I never see it mentioned when people are discussing him but it's easily my favorite. Such a viscerally sad story punctuated by that dreamlike metafictional subplot
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>>24924282
Not that guy but war and war is very underrated imho. I read it 2 years or so ago and I really enjoyed it, but didn't grasp it fully. I'm reading Baron Wenckheim now and although it's good it got me thinking back to W&W, the story in W&W is so gripping, more similar to his first two novels than Baron I think. I also began to relate more with Korin so that helps lmao

I wish there was a single website to see all of the W&W metatext stuff, i.e. the Schaffhausen plaque, Marios igloos, the CD and stuff

At least www.warandwar.com is still online



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