He was right about Christ.
>>24924117No, Christ was right about him.
Love how much this man makes christkeks seethe
Our Lady of Lourdes appeared as an apparition at the same time that Nietzsche was alive, it's interesting he never makes a note of her in his writings. I suppose he thought it was all a hoax.
>>24924137>it was all a hoaxIt was. Like every catholic miracle and relic.
>>24924154You do know there's a hospital at Lourdes that rigorously examines claimed healings, right? And that there are several dozen cases they've accumulated over the years that are inexplicable?
>>24924154You have never heard of Lourdes before, have you?
>>24924117I like his analysis of him in bge #269
>>24924137>>24924154>christians genuinely believe god sends down random faith healers in the middle of nowhere to cure people’s various ailments with magic because ????>refused to lift a finger to stop the 2 genocidal global wars that killed literal millions of people and caused untold suffering Ok
He was right about God.
>>24924176Why do you think God is a Bentham utilitarian?
>>24924182You pick a different atheist author per week claiming to be the one that made you convert from tradcath to atheist. I don't get what you get from being a shill for atheism here
>>24924190Schizophrenia
>>24924176The fact of the matter is that miracles are the best refutation of Nietzsche, because if they're real, it means that God, or at least the otherworldly, is definitively real. Nietzsche's entire philosophy hinges on there being no transcendent; if the transcendent actually exists, Nietzsche is wrong about everything.
>>24924194Nietzsche didn't deal with miracles because Hume proved that the concept is nonsense.
>>24924194>Nietzsche's entire philosophy hinges on there being no transcendentI don't believe that since he called himself the last disciple of Dionysus, he was a pagan. There just isn't a transcendent other world for moralists
>>24924195Hume was just a mediocre sophist with poor knowledge of Scholasticism. He didn't prove anything.
>>24924194Never ask a Christian why miracles stopped happening when everyone got a 24/7 camera that can fit in their pocket
>>24924200His logic is pretty much 1+1=2. we have been given 0 proof of miracles but infinite proof of the observable laws of nature. Why then should we trust in miracles? I don’t see how knowledge of the scholastics will change this basic theory.
>>24924131spbp
>>24924201They didn't stop happening in the modern era. Some of the biggest miracles in history were fairly recent.
>>24924207Sure they were lad. Sure they were.
>>24924117Was he right about Paul (Saul) hijacking early christianity or he didn't really write that part of his posthumous The Will To Power?
>>24924203>we have been given 0 proof of miracles but infinite proof of the observable laws of nature.This is an ignorant view of how science works of what a proof is and it doesn't prove miracles don't exist.Again, just a mediocre sophist with hidden assumptions
>>24924209Yes, they unironically were fairly recent.The Lourdes miracles were quite recent and so was the Fatima miracle. Some atheists try to bring cope explanations for Fatima, but it always fails to explain at least one part of what happened.The second best explanation other than "something supernatural happened" is "near omnipotent aliens hate smug atheists and really love simple religious folks so they wanted to make the first group look like complete idiots in Portugal in the 1910s"
>>24924218Whatever you say.
>>24924218>”recent”>1858 and 1917>the 1917 “miracle” was the sun zig zagging across the sky Incredible
>>24924194This is a retarded take both because Nietzsche isn’t an atheist and because the miraculous is a part of nature, it doesn’t require a transcendent. Hell even most christians have historically understood that point, it’s only post-Hume that they bought into some two worlds bullshit for the supernatural. Not a single page of what Nietzsche wrote is incompatible with the supernatural or with religion, it’s just incompatible with Abrahamist ideology which is not real religion.
>>24924229Yes, 1917 is recent. And the miracle was about much more than just zigzag in the sky.The sun was something like a silver object dancing in the sky, painting everything different colors and once looking like it would fall down to Earth. Areas exposed to its light (it was cold and there was heavy rain for hours before that)would dry instantly. People miles away who were not expecting anything saw the same thing happening. From angles that were impossible, even. And people could stare at it for minutes without getting eye injuries. One of the witnesses was a scientist who freaked out and made sure his eyes were OK.In a somewhat related issue, an illiterate girl said many months ago that there would be something huge that would happen that day. The witnesses who went there included skeptics and atheist journalists. An interesting thing that I remember that happened is that... a liberal catholic priest who was not there fought via letters with an atheist journalist who was there. The Atheist journalist actually defended the phenomenon.There is no natural explanation to all of this.Again, the 2nd best explanation is "nesr omnipotent aliens", but you would have to wonder why an alien would push catholicism.
>>24924251how many people had smartphones and portable cameras in world war 1?
>>24924253If there were videos of it you would claim they were montages or fakes.
>>24924256keep dodging the question, it only makes your position look stronger.
>>24924256Yeah that's what I thought. You tradlarpers are pathetic and brown.
>>24924117>ChristWhich one? Christ is a Greek word. It means "annointed by holy olive oil". A lot of kings, queens, tsars, tsaritsas were Christs.
>>24924257Smartphones started becoming common in 2010. In your opinion, that's the only period that matters and every other period is fake?
>>24924268It's the period of time where you have to put up or shut up for once. So far you haven't put up shit.
>>24924272So, of the 2,000 years of history only those 15 years count? Every other event witnessed by people can be dismissed? Do you also trust history? There were no smartphones as far as I know when the Senate killed Julius Caesar. Or when Charlemagne was crowned Emperor. Could his crowning be a later forgery?
>>24924195>presupposes naturalism>"miracles are impossible because they violate the laws of nature which is impossible because miracles don't exist">"WOOOOWRINO VERY SMART!"
>>24924251There are so many problems with this it's unreal you don't see them
>>24924304true detective fans be bussin to this comment frfr
>>24924117
>>24924304RZ ahh bludIf you read him you'd know miracles are a part of nature since they occur, something occuring but that isn't natural is a contradiction. Read him.
The Christian faith from the beginning, is sacrifice the sacrifice of all freedom, all pride, all self-confidence of spirit, it is at the same time subjection, self-derision, and self-mutilation.
>>24924117maybe he was onto something or maybe he was on something or both I dunnohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic
>>24924354stop shilling this
>>24924334Who gets to define what's natural? Hume? The man who literally said that his own philosophy was useless and you're better off spending your days not thinking about his ideas?
>>24924367>Who gets to define what's natural?Use your eyes retard, look at the products of nature.
>>24924157What do you make of protestant healings that don't rely on petitioning the saints?>>24924201Miracles didn't stop. They still happen. God's not a genie bound to fulfill wishes at the beck and call of skeptics. Besides, there are well documented miracles that are nonetheless discarded as fraudulent on the circular logic of "miracles are impossible therefore it didn't happen"
>>24924117Tolstoy was right about Nietzsche
>>24924396The logic is denying the category of a "miracle", not "it didn't happen". It just helps to understand what the processes led to it, which always lead to discovering no God.
How do you know these miracles are from one single god
>>24924396NTA, but Catholics don't think every miracle demands the intercession of a saint. There are certain cases where extraordinary events happen when the people affected actually didn't even want them to happen.And yeah, miracles still happen. I think that maybe that anon is confused about the rarity of the most "extravagant" kind of miracles, thinking they were "common" in earlier eras before cameras, when that was not really the case.If anything, the 1850-1930 period which had tons of skeptics and when there were cameras was a particularly big era in terms of large scale miracles. Probably the biggest era in the 1000-2000 period for that.
>>24924405>It just helps to understand what the processes led to it, which always lead to discovering no God.That's not true.
>>24924203>we have been given 0 proof of miracles but infinite proof of the observable laws of nature. What a rubbish thought process.
>>24924374>If you read him you'd know miracles are a part of nature since they occur, something occuring but that isn't natural is a contradiction. Read him.This is a language game, but atheshits aren't smart enough to realize that.
>>24924117Shame about the syphilis
>>24924251>why an alien would push catholicism.one could argue loosh planet if one were to belive in such thing..- person from /X/.
>>24924309not the same anon , but could you tell me those problems
>>24924374> Use your eyes retardAnd why should I trust my eyes? They’ve fooled me before
>>24924605Including reading pages from the Bible?
