1) Plato - Complete works worth the 65$? Or 5 dialogues and republic is enough? Is Grube translation still the best? What about modern Cathal Woods and Ryan Pack (cant find any reviews on those)?2) Seneca - The University of Chicago Press is to go? Hardship&Happines, Letters on Ethics, these two enough or I need something else (please no tragedies)?3) Epictetus - Waterfiled is the best currently? I tried to read penguin classics (Dobbin) and was not so happy about it4) Cicero, Musonius, Aristotle recommendations?5) What else?
All the greeks are antiquated, none are worth reading.the fact that you're seriously considering buying a $65 paperweight that has no philosophical worth in modern times says, that your underlying desire is actual the fetishism of a commodity, not philosophy. I suggest downloading a pdf of, Karl Marx's, Capital.
Ignore the retard above me but you are getting ripped if you pay 65$
>>24925578Kinda feel the same way but this damn edition exist only in hardcover and its about 1900 pages long. I like my books portable to a certain extent, Dialogues and Republic definetely a more affordable option but they're only a third long in page count, so I have no idea what else I might miss (and even if I need it).
>>24925629You will get the gist of Plato with Five Dialogues and Republic
>>24925572>paperweight that has no philosophical worth in modern times>download MarxNigga just woke up from Fin de siecle Europe or something. Next he's going to tell you to read Blavatsky and Rudolf Steiner
>>24925557>>24925629Yes, this edition is worth it. The translations are good and if you want to read Plato you'll pay the same for 3 or 4 separate paperbacks and won't have everything.Most of the dialogues in the Five Dialogues are kind of intro level and not really Plato's best. It doesn't make much sense to read stuff like Meno and not much more. Dialogues like Phaedo and Republic are more interesting but you should read some of the other dialogues as well.If you wanna cheap and read a pdf you can just get a pirate copy of this or read from the translations on the Platonic Foundation site.If you know French look up the Bouquins editions of both Seneca and Cicero, they have paperbacks with their full philosophical works. The editions you mentioned for Seneca and Epictetus seem good though.For Aristotle depends on what you want to read, the "standard" english edition is the Princeton one but it's also a bit expensive. Some of the resident Aristotle autists in this board might have better advise for you on this point.
>>24925572GR8 B8 M8
>>24925557get the oxford 'presocratics' and 'diogenes' But if ur really just starting out just read what u wanna read and dont stick to an era or timeline
>>24925557>1) Plato - Complete works worth the 65$?The complete works of Plato are easily worth 2000 dollars if you can comprehend them correctly, lol.
Skip plato. Just start with Aristotle and then read Augustine.
>>24925557>65$Less than half retail used, never pay more.
>>24925780Thank you.I do not know French, and funny enough most of translations of greek texts available in my native language are made from French, and they have weird style of church books, completely ruining the immersion. The worst examples I've read are Iliad, which lost even subtle hints of humour, and Meditations, that become a prayer-style writings - nothing like private journals never meant to be read by anyone.I guess I have to come in terms that Plato is a desk book, then.Oh and yes, I found the PDF of this very edition, if somebody interested.
>>24925572This post is correct except the Marx part. The greeks are a philosophical dead end and that was exposed by all the great philosophers in the last 150 years.
>>24927190he needs to learn that his entire personality is just a cog in the capitalist machine!
