/tv/ board treats LOTR like a d&d game and it's pissing me off. Not a single one of them understand LOTR
This new insistence that LotR is some profound work of Western canon because Tolkien was BASED and REDPILLED is extraordinarily cringe.
>>24925759I've only read The Hobbit...
>>24925764book 2 part 2 is a profound work of western canonthe rest is OK
>>24925759I'm actually reading LOTR right now, the arrival to Imladris feels so nice after the terror of the RingwraithsTolkien is such a good writer
>>24925759Holy Mogged batman! Its Ned the Stark
>>24925759The part where Legolas surfs down the stairs on a shield while shooting arrows was so deep and profound
>>24925764I think the books do have a real power to them. One thing I've always felt is that they capture melancholy and loss really well. Frodo's Morgul Blade wound is a wound that won't heal, but this idea is present all across the books: that there have been hurts that will never mend, and things are going away that will never return.There's one passage during Return Of The King where Gandalf, Galadriel, and Celeborn are all discussing late at night and the text mentions that if a traveler had passed them he would have perceived only weathered statues of a long-gone age, or something like that. I found it very striking. The mournfulness of parting is something LOTR does very profoundly.
>>24925764They're not a profound work but they're the single best thing for a young man to read for them to later become conservative readers of classics. If you want to strip it down to it's studs, lotr is just a fantasy Walter Scott novel, with extra poetry, and a a deliberately antique Milton-lite prose, and influenced by Ibsen's Scandinavian folklore, and maybe a bit of Wagner somewhere in there. But that doesn't sound so bad, does it?
>normies ruin everythingTell me something new, OP
Boromir had low WIS which lead to his corruption, as most Human Fighters do. It really didn't make sense to me that Aragorn wasn't the one with the bow cause he was a Ranger, right? Seems like an oversight :\
Because of the consolidation of media under a few companies, each of which funnels people toward a small number of successful IPs, many people simply do not understand the wealth of genres that used to exist.The entire space fantasy/planetary romance genre has now been swallowed by Star Wars in the mind of the average reader. Pulp fantasy has been completely forgotten, and the concept of a fantasy quest is now being swallowed by Lord of the Rings. People who have encountered nothing else think LotR and D&D must be similar works attempting to depict similar things, because they don't know anything about the books that preceded and influenced those works, or the genres they were once part of.
>>24925866Legolas one shots a fell beast in the first book.
>>24925764You should go back
>>24925759roll a persuasion check
>>24926153What’s that, now?
>>24925759D&D?not at all.half of the audience there is gay.the other half is there for the race war, on the white side, with Jackson.(not a single of them is able to criticize Jackson's storytelling nullity.)the last half is there for the race war, on the nigger side, with HBO.
>>24925764Bait aside, LotR functions as a quasi-myth to this generation. Its concepts are so fundamentally ingrained in the collective psyche, though relatively few actually read it, that it has, in large part, filled the void left by the erosion of actual myth. Unlike ancient Greek and even, to a lesser extent, Christian mythology, LotR is readily understood today. That's what makes it powerful. What LotR has effectively done is give a mythless generation a window into perennial archetypes.
>>24926221Honestly, I feel like Tolkien wouldn't have minded that. He'd appreciate it, I think, that his own work was successful in keeping the old flames alive, though I'm sure he'd prefer that those who read him would then go on and read the things that influenced him, too.But there is much of the spirit of "preserve what can be preserved" to him, and to all the Inklings to an extent.
