Serious post Try to convince me that anything after Schopenhauer or Nietzsche isn't dick riding Hegel and beating the dead horse, which is life's meaningless.Also Cioran is the only thing worth reading, rest is just screeching around terminologies
Schopenhauer is secondary source for jung
>>24927983>SchopenhauerWhiny faggot manlet, pseudo-philosophy stolen from badly understood Upanishads and Buddhism.>CioranWhiny faggot manlet coward, too afraid to either live life to the fullest or kill himself.>NietzscheBased.>YouFiltered dilettante who has never read the authors he judges and who makes shitty threads./sage
>>24927991This nigga read tiktok summaries lmfao go pick up a book pleb
>>24927983schopenhauer was a poser with a wife and played the flute.
Schopenhauer and Nietzsche are just footnotes to Spinoza's idea of conatus
>>24927991If you die nothing will change in my lifeI'm gonna remember you as the random 4chan poster who reads summaries and haven't read one book, so you're a useless faggot
>>24928008Yeah a lot of similarities or to say Schopenhauer stole from Spinoza even NietzscheBut that's the whole premise of philosophy after Spinoza>>24927991Filtered faggot
>>24927991You were doing so well until >Basedkys retard
>>24927991>>Nietzsche>Based.Ew nigga go back to twitter gay spaces
>>24927991>>Nietzsche>Based.Pseud
>>24927983Everyone who has only read Schopenhauer says this.
>>24928050Maybe because schopenhauer completed philosophy and opened up psychology
>>24928069Name 10 philosophy books written after the 19th century which you have read and allowed you to conclude that philosophy is completed.
>>24928073Give me one concept after schopenhauer that reintroduces life's meaningfulnessOf course you won't, Just because Hegel gets shilled doesn't mean he is essential, Schopenhauer was significantly impactful and changed the world
>>24928050Schop broke philosophy, what else is there to read but academical jargon to get a master in philosophy or unemployment you fucking retardOP is right also>>24928073Tell me about the post structuralist, deconstructionism and Wittgenstein you fucking retard
>>24927983CS PeirceEdmund HusserlAN WhiteheadCG Jung
>>24928097Carl Jung ? Are you sure ?
>>24928102Jung was the only one that understood schopenhauer perfectly. People usually read his collected essays along with schoppy's world as will they complement one another so well it's scary
>>24928091Negative dialectics
>>24928138Which book of his>>24928155Hegel's slop
>>24927983Nope, you've reached the end. Thanks for playing!
>>24928138>>Jung was the only one that understood schopenhauer perfectlyyeaaaaaa i doubt that. Stop being a cultist baka baka
>>24927983It is characteristic of the modern mentality that, even when it believes itself to be rising above the contingency of empirical multiplicity, it nevertheless remains imprisoned within the very limitations it claims to transcend. Schopenhauer’s metaphysics provides a particularly clear example. In his attempt to penetrate to the principial order, he mistakes a merely psychological or existential datum—the “will” as he conceives it—for the metaphysical Absolute. Instead of discerning the supra-individual Essence that precedes and governs all manifestation, he elevates an infra-intellectual impulse, essentially blind and indeterminate, to the dignity of first principle. Such a reversal is typical of the modern deviation: the lower is substituted for the higher, the conditioned for the unconditioned, and the subjective for the universal.Furthermore, Schopenhauer’s doctrine remains fundamentally dualistic, although he supposes himself to have overcome the duality between representation and the noumenal will. In truth, his “noumenon” is no noumenon at all; it is only the sublimation of an empirical psychological fact that has been projected beyond its proper domain. The very possibility of transcending phenomenal existence is then conceived negatively, as a kind of extinction or annulment of the will, because the metaphysical principle itself has already been defined in terms of limitation and privation. If one begins with a deficient concept of the Absolute, one can reach only a deficient account of deliverance. Hence the pessimistic undertone that pervades his system is not the mark of a profound insight into the nature of existence, but rather the inevitable consequence of departing from the integral doctrines of traditional metaphysics, in which Being is never reduced to the mere shadow cast by human suffering or existential restlessness.In sum, Schopenhauer illustrates how the modern mind, lacking initiation into any authentic doctrine, cannot help but confuse the psychic with the spiritual, the individual with the universal, and the contingent with the principial. What results is not metaphysics but only a philosophy of temperament—ingenious, perhaps, but wholly inadequate as a pathway toward the transcendent. Such is the fate of any system that seeks the Absolute while remaining bound to the categories, limitations, and negations proper to the human mental order alone.
>>24928050I have a fondness for Schopenhauer but it doesn't mean that Nietzsche was wrong. Nietzsche is generally right (Spinoza was a bad turn), but where Schopenhauer strays from Spinoza is where he's most interesting, his work on Kant being largely correction. A lot of Schopenhauer is viable and novel and sincere, to the point Nietzsche's main criticism is his propagation of the lowest form of God
>>24928171>Hegel's slopwrong.
>>24927983>Everything after the first pages of Schopenhauer books are meaninglessFTFY
>>24928102Jung is one of the greats, no question.
>>24928216Who wrote this?
>>24928216>he elevates an infra-intellectual impulse, essentially blind and indeterminate, to the dignity of first principle. Such a reversal is typical of the modern deviationIsn't that the point of philosophy ? Atleast he dissects it and rids us of life's conceptsAlso that's already covered in Nietzsche's Twilight of Idols
>>24928596Filtered.>>24928650I copied it from some reddit post
>>24927983i'm tired of bait. i couldn't fall for it if i tried anymore. we're saturated with bait. we live in a bait culture.
>>24928216>>24928650>>24928734I thought it reads like Guenon. Or someone who read Guenon themselves. It's his vocabulary. No idea which of his books though.
>>24927983True. There is something irreducible between him and Kant. Schopenhauer's greatness as a philosopher is insurmountable.
>>24928748It's not a bait dumbass, it's true posting
>>24928008Spinoza was evil
>>24928650I asked Chat-GPT to write a critique of Schopenhauer from the POV of traditional metaphysics while emulating Guenon's style as much as possible.
>>24927983Albert Camushttps://philosophyball.miraheze.org/wiki/Camusism>Nietzsche succeeds Schopenhauer>Camus succeeds Nietzsche>Out of all the three that succeed Nietzsche, none succeed Camus>Only those who criticize Camus are cringy nihilist women
>>24929686Cioran is the true successor dumb dumb
>>24929691He doesn't have a ball tho so he is irrelevant
>>24928138>schopenhauer intentionally makes himself perfectly clear and intelligible >only one person actually understood him Peak retard
>>24929712stop skimming wikipedia pages and start reading
>>24929552that's even worse. you are truly a retard.
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