I love her so much, bros...
Where do you rank her books in a scale of 0 to 10. Each one
>>24928051I don't read. I just want to fuck her anglo aristocratic face with my lower order cock.
>>24928051Well, I've only read Mrs. Dalloway so far and that's a 10/10.
>>24928041This is north canadian catholic phenotype. Extremely common in the -30C regions.
>>24928041Better than Joyce.
>>24928137Only by a little, but yes.
>>24928051>The Voyage OutA solid debut that showcases some decent prose though her plot and characters are definitely derivative of Austen and co. Ending is also a bit melodramatic. 6/10>"He had never realized before that underneath every action, underneath the life of every day, pain lies, quiescent, but ready to devour; he seemed to be able to see suffering, as if it were a fire, curling up over the edges of all action, eating away the lives of men and women. He thought for the first time with understanding of words which had before seemed to him empty: the struggle of life; the hardness of life.">Night and DayAn improvement on the same tone and themes as The Voyage Out. Character motivations and whatnot are more refined and mature, and despite being considerably longer, it doesn't drag on much. 7/10>"The worship of greatness in the nineteenth century seems to me to explain the worthlessness of that generation.">"Never are voices so beautiful as on a winter's evening, when dusk almost hides the body, and they seem to issue from nothingness with a note of intimacy seldom heard by day.">Jacob's RoomHer first great novel. And arguably her most difficult. More people should read it, but her following two novels are much more accessible so good luck with that. The writing style more-or-less typifies what makes Woolf famous. It's not really stream-of-consciousness, but the free-indirect discourse technique very effectively combines with the fragmented, ambiguous character study where Jacob is never really understood clearly, only impressionistically. Woolf paints Jacob the same way Monet paints rivers and nightscapes: clear forms, slightly blurry outlines, the boundaries of all things slightly enmeshed together to mirror the limitations and blind-spots of human thought and sensation. Fans of Joyce and Faulkner must read this one. 8.5/10>"...it must come as a shock about the age of twenty - the world of the elderly - thrown up in such black outline upon what we are; upon the reality; the moors and Byron; the sea and the lighthouse; the sheep's jaw with the yellow teeth in it; upon the obstinate irrepressible conviction which makes youth so intolerably disagreeable - 'I am what I am, and intend to be it,' for which there will be no form in the world unless Jacob makes one for himself.">"Language were wine upon his lips."
>>24928534>Mrs DallowayI think this is her most read book. Blame gender studies classes? Regardless, Woolf's prose and unique style continues to evolve and take new forms. Septimus is arguably one of her greatest and most sympathetic characters. Partially influenced by Ulysses, the entire novel takes place over a day, chronicling the lives of several characters. The city of London is very much a "character" in this book the same way Dublin is in Ulysses. Though Woolf is still very much concerned with the ineffability of the deepest human issues, the epiphanies and revelations have more clarity, certainty and confidence behind them. 8.5/10>"His wife was crying, and he felt nothing; only each time she sobbed in this profound, this silent, this hopeless way, he descended another step into the pit.">To The LighthouseThe first book of hers I read, and after 3 reads it's still my second favorite. Probably her most famous and acclaimed novel, Lighthouse is arguably the perfection of Woolf's impressionistic, free-indirect style. Her characters are more philosophic, her Shakespeare mentions better distilled, her prose effectively cuts through every mood and social disturbance, acting as both blade and microscope. The hourglass structure of the novel is a nice experiment, with the famous middle section acting as a linguistic still life of how the Ramsay family would be perceived without conventional, biological perception. And for a book like this, perception is always the keyword. 9/10>"For now she need not think about anybody. She could be herself, by herself. And that was what now she often felt the need of - to think; well not even to think. To be silent; to be alone. All the being and the doing, expansive, glittering, vocal, evaporated; and one shrunk, with a sense of solemnity, to being oneself, a wedge-shaped core of darkness, something invisible to others.">OrlandoOne of her more conceptual "novels", Orlando is a pseudo-biography and the writing adapts itself to this genre-switch. The prose isn't what's amorphous or meticulously fuzzy, but the protagonist instead. It's a neat, fun little experiment and the book ought to be approached with a sense of carefreeness. It's also perhaps her funniest work of fiction. I think the writing is weaker than her other famous novels, and the second half of the book isn't as engaging as the first half, but it gets bonus points for its ambition and unique premise. 7.5/10>"For it has to be remembered that crime and poverty had none of the attraction for the Elizabethans that they have for us. They had none of our modern shame of book learning; none of our belief that to be born the son of a butcher is a blessing and to be unable to read a virtue; no fancy that what we call 'life' and 'reality' are somehow connected with ignorance and brutality; nor, indeed, any equivalent for these two words at all. It was not to seek 'life' that Orlando went among them; not in quest of 'reality' that he left them."
>>24928545>The WavesHer masterpiece. My 2nd favorite novel of the 20th century alongside Ulysses. Widely considered her most experimental book, The Waves is 99% interior monologues. Her impressionist lyricism, her painterly stream-of-consciousness, her colorful prose poetry and the depths of feeling, situations, moral impasses and linguistic philosophizing all peak here with writerly bliss and the humble confidence of a master writer who commands English with finesse, dexterity and sublimity. The core 6 characters are beautifully realized, interdependent, interconnected and inter-penetrating. To learn so much about their friendships from childhood to old age despite there being zero dialogue or conventional "interaction" between them in text is what truly makes this book a towering marvel of human perseverance, human imagination, human failure and human self-determination. No one will fully understand the depths of English without having read this most supreme opus. The final monologue - roughly 50 pages long - is 10/10>"There is nothing staid, nothing settled, in this universe. All is rippling, all is dancing; all is quickness and triumph.">"No, but I wish to go under; to visit the profound depths; once in a while to exercise my prerogative not always to act. but to explore; to hear vague, ancestral sounds of boughs creaking, of mammoths; to indulge impossible desires to embrace the whole world with the arms of understanding - impossible to those who act. Am I not, as I walk, trembling with strange oscillations and vibrations of sympathy.">"I excite pity in the crises of life, not love. Therefore I suffer horribly. But I do not suffer, as Louis does, to make myself a spectacle. I have too fine a sense of fact to allow myself these juggleries, these pretences. I see everything - except one thing - with complete clarity. That is my saving. That is what gives my suffering an unceasing excitement. That is what makes me dictate, even when I am silent.>"They want a plot, do they? They want a reason? It is not enough for them, this ordinary scene. It is not enough to wait for the thing to be said as if it were written; to see the sentence lay its dab of clay precisely on the right place, making character, to perceive, suddenly, some group in outline against the sky. Yet if they want violence, I have seen death and murder and suicide all in one room. One comes in, one goes out."
>>24928549>The YearsOne of her underrated novels along with Jacob's Room. The themes and subject matter are closer to her first two novels, but with a more ambitious structure, complex timeline and superior prose. Though modernist novels are rarely plot-centric, this novel is especially light on events and incidents. It's one of her dialogue-heavy books, which imo is not her strength, but it reads and flows nicely enough. 7/10>"It seems to me that our new freedom is a good deal worse than our old slavery.">Between The ActsA lightly experimental novel blending conventional prose with playwrighting in the wake of World War II. I don't find it her most impressive work but there are several moments with great lyricism, even if conceptually and emotionally it doesn't reach the heights of her attainment in the 1920s. I don't like it as much as others. Maybe I got filtered. 6.5/10>"Books: the treasured life-blood of immortal spirits. Poets: the legislators of mankind."
>>24928534>>24928545>>24928549>>24928557Based Woolfstacy
>>24928549thanks for the writeups anon. I love TTL and you've convinced me to read The Waves next
>>24928549thanks for the write-ups.For me personally, I'd say The Waves > To the Lighthouse > Mrs Dallowaybut I enjoyed all of them. The Waves is my second-favorite book ever, only behind Proust's In Search of Lost Time. It's an interesting contrast because Woolf's style can get very abstract with layers and layers of metaphors an all beautifully written, but Proust wrote quite simply and straightforwardly, despite his reputation for long sentences. I'd really recommend reading him if you haven't already. He's able to achieve such depth, such sincerity and sentimentality that if feels you're sinking deeper and deeper into your own heart.
>her only famous work is where she whines about men damn
>>24928041I detest the masculine point of view. I am bored by his heroism, virtue, and honour. I think the best these men can do is not talk about themselves anymore.
>>24929314Thank you sister
>>24929333Based trips and enjoy, I didn't find it difficult but many people do for whatever reason>>24929603I've only read excerpts of Proust but I love modernism and will give him a go someday
>>24928041Nothing happens in her books.
>>24930521Nothing ever happens in the best songs/compositions, paintings or poems either.
>>24930534Those don't take 18 hours to finish.
>>24930538Most of her books are short and can be read in 4 or 5 hours to people with high-school level reading speeds and comprehensions. Anything else?
>>24930534False
>>24930557ohhhh 5 hours and not 18. okay then. that's way different.
>>24930564I'm using his retarded usage of "nothing", he's just bitching that Woolf's novels tend to not have much plot.
>>24930521maybe a sci fi novel with laser beams and exploding airlocks is more your speed
>>24930742that sounds sick
>>24930782cool now post your age
>>24930742To the Quantum Lighthouse - by Virginia Starwoolf
I'm a man/lit/ and the most I've read is thriller murder novels. Would Virginia's books filter me or should I try any?
>>24931114They will probably filter you but there's no harm in trying since her books are short. Start with Dalloway or Lighthouse, they're accessible. I think Dalloway requires some historical context since it does lean into post-WW1 anxieties that the UK was still wrestling with, but it's not necessary to enjoy the characters and prose.
>>24931114Why do you want to read her?
>>24931767Like Virginia Woolf always says, "You should aim to exceed your boundaries," or something like that.
>>24931875I'm not familiar with that saying of hers
>>24928534>>24928545>>24928549>>24928557Absolutely excellent posts.
>>24931114>Would Virginia's books filter me more than likely. for some reason stream of consciousness always gives our autistic posters problems. its as if their brain short circuits.
>>24932728writers like woolf are excellent exercises in testing your social skills and ability to pick up on human subtleties. i suppose most people of this generation would rather seek satisfaction in elden ring lore.
>>24932782the human bean experience
>>24932728>stream of consciousnesshate it
>>24932728Autists need detail and facts and trivia in obnoxious abundance, most stream-of-consciousness writing techniques are entirely antithetical to that.
>>24932804lmfao but how come? no bullying, i'm genuinely asking. >>24932808ah that makes perfect sense now.
>>24932813it feels like it's designed to waste my time with irrelevant nonsense and to be as personally insulting to my intelligence as possible
>>24932822>doesn't understand something>takes it personallyyep, that's autism
>>24932804Would you prefer stream of facts and logic?
One of the only good threads on /lit/ and it's about a woman? Is nature healing?
>>24928041She was oddly cute, but she was basically a carpetmunching dyke.She was not sexually attracted to her husband or men, at all.She married him because reasons, but he got ZERO pussy from her while she'd be getting nasty with Jane Austen or whatever bimbo was available those days. Not cool, man
>>24933169There is no such thing as a lesbian. All women crave cock.
>>24933169cry more, victim
>>24933193i used to think the opposite, that all women were really on some level also into girls. because why wouldn’t you be. they’re the obvious choice. but whenever i said this to girls, they’d sort of play along but i could tell it was just for mysake. and actually now i’m pretty sure they’re all into boys, maybe even more than boys are into girls. and lesbians are just more boy than girl.
>>24933193I've seen the "toys" lesbians "play" with these days, I think their cravings are well met.
>>24928041I have only read The Waves. Easy 10/10. Total mastery of the English language>>24933193This unironically. I have slept with 2 “lesbians” now
>>24933235Yeah okay bro, and women are all SO into men that you mysteriously never see women paying en masse for male prostitutes or thristing after hairy, sweaty, fat eastern european menCope
>>24933246we're talking about lesbians not "lesbians"
>>24928041...I don't know how to tell you all this, but Ms. Woolf had a very smelly pussy.
>>2493324930 Rock has a joke about this and it's a scene about going on a date with a lesbian lol
>>24933254you're talking about something that doesn't exist
>>24933193Craving cock =/= craving men, all women want their pussy to be smashed but not necessarily by someone who looks like the car wash eyebrow man from breaking bad or roman from grand theft auto 4
>>24933249not much of a cope on my part is it though bro. byron said ‘man’s love is of man's life a thing apart, 'tis woman's whole existence.’
>>24933284Caring about what women want is what got us in this mess in the first place.
>>24933289nothing bleaker than seeing someone pass a fight club quote off as their own.
>>24933289Okay sure but what does that have to do with my post. You are old enough to know that knowing =/= caring right?
>>24932822victimhood: the post
>>24933289Who the fuck is "us"?Leave me out of your inceldom, my man
>>24933289go back.
>>24932797Great contribution, anon.
>>24933280im talking about "something" that does "exist"
>>24933193What about women that crave futa cock
>>24928545Based effortposter, I would give Lighthouse the ten. The Waves feels more like an important mission statement and fulfillment of theory, but that doesn't mean a less technically showy book can't be perfect
ive only read one of her books and i finished it in november im thinking about doing an essay collection
>>24934271For me, Lighthouse feels more like an artist's mission statement interestingly enough, due to the character Lily and how the book ends. Waves is more advanced but its subject matter is actually much less analytical or theoretical. All of her books since Jacob's Room more-or-less have the same amount of "showiness" imo.
>>24934283Which one anon?
>>24928137Yes. The Waves mogs anything by Joyce
>>24931110kek
>>24936738Do you think /lit/ is ready to accept this fact?
>>24933249>thristing after hairy, sweaty, fat eastern european menWhat? Women love this type of man
>>24937672>What? Women love this type of man
