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What do you think of the Gnostic idea of Pneumaitcs, Psychics and Hylics as a way of dividing up the three main kinds of people in the world? I find the idea of the Hylic particularly compelling. Purely material people with no sense of wonder or inner divinity about them who will be trapped in the cycle of rebirth and will eventually dissolve with the material world.

I find it even more compelling when I see the amount of fucking morons on this website sometimes as well
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>>24928568
Enjoy Hell.
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>>24928574
Haha the jew boy is angry now
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these are all broadly true to me so I'm going to start believing this and telling people about it
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>>24928568
That image is completely wrong, stop posting it.
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>>24928590
No
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>>24928568
Why are a lot of internet Gnostics Hylic?

Is the internet the sensorium of the Demiurge
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>>24928568
Bargain bin Plato, like almost all christian theology, orthodox or heterodox. Mimics Plato's tripartite division of the soul/republic, except in a more individualistic and larp-y manner.
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>>24928568
isn't this just calvinist (satanic) mythology?
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>>24928568
I no longer find it compelling as I've found a more satisfying and interesting brand of schizophrenia
>this but unironically
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>>24928568
I don’t know about the no soul part but there does seem to be a bunch of evil people running around now that only care about the material realm.
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Hylic is a meme term. if you unironically believe people are hylics, then you're probably something that fits that descriptor yourself.
What's happened is, we've had a massive population explosion. many of the souls walking around are new souls, who were perhaps other beings in previous lives, like whales, elephants, things like this. They're now on their journey as humans, but dont have much experiences so they simply dont care for the realm of meaning and value. Theyre on their journey and theyll figure it out
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>>24929997
>no u
Ah, I see.
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>>24928568
>>24929997
Souls, spirits, and all this other nonsense aren't real. Wake the fuck up, it's 2025 you guys.
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>>24928568
Refuted by Plotinus
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>>24929997
This. No such thing as a 'soulless' being. Its impossible, breaks the very nature of the 'Soul'. Not too sure on the elephants and animals part.
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>>24928568
>opinions on THIS denial of death cope?
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>>24930259
>every being has a soul
>immediately follows up with Descartian skepticism about the souls of ANIMALS, literally etymologically rooted in Latin for soul
Hylics everyone
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esoteric philosophy hijacked by internet hermits looking for a more intellectual way to say normalfags
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>>24931012
that's the entire history of esoteric philosophy and they've always been right
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It's not real. We really need to stop explaining physical phenomenon with non-physical processes, because it's just not real.

You explain the material world through physics, chemistry, biology and mathematics. That's it.

If you want to have a philosophy that is about spiritualism the ONLY way for it to work out is to completely disconnect it from the material world.

This means the philosophy should never try to explain physical phenomena, never try and touch on what happens to you or your soul after death. Never imply it can change or impact the material world or it's outcomes.

If and only if you have a philosophy that does that will it become acceptable in a post-nietzschean world.

If you don't separate your philosophy from the material like that it becomes falsifiable and therefor we will know it to be fake.

All traditional religious thought is fake. And people that claim to believe in it are lying. No one in the modern world capable of thought and reading genuinely believes in any of this. We all know deep inside that it's fake.

A new religion should completely disconnect from the physical and material plane to be viable. INCLUDING the afterlife/soul/spirit. You need to let go of these concepts in the construction of a new religion for it to work.
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>>24931682
Reddit spacing hylic
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Why would a pneumatic follow Sophia?
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>>24931685
Oldfag spacing actually.
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I have gender dysphoria and I started HRT but now I realise what I really love is knowledge and the freedom from sexuality is a wonderful gift
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whenever i see the word hylic used i feel embarrassed for the poster
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>>24931725
You can go one step beyond HRT. Realize you are too enlightened to switch gender at all because you are so beyond the gender norms that changing it in and of itself is a limiting factor.
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>>24931736
I am unfortunately influenced by gender norms, I am an animal who wishes to be more than an animal
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>>24928568
While gnostics make more sense than usual globoabrahomos, in that they have better solution to problem of evil. It's still a cope. If there is a truly good God he would not allow Demiurge to do evil shit.
Really, either God(s) is evil or doesn't give a shit, or pagan approach - there are many Gods, they are flawed, or have their own characters and can both help and hinder.
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>>24931772
I gnosticism (You) are a piece of the real god. You were broken off and stolen by the demiurge and the real god can only get you back into itself through gnosis. God and demiurge are around equal in power. Demiurge is NOT omnipotent but IS all-powerful. Meanwhile the real god IS omnipotent but NOT all-powerful (until the broken pieces return)

The demiurge doesn't realize it's being evil. He is genuinely trying to create a perfect existence but because of his lack of omniscience he is making mistakes and creating an imperfect world.

Gnosticism is also not one coherent religion but there were a lot of different branches. Some have a pantheon with Sophia and others and demiurge is just the newest child of Sophia. Others have ONLY the demiurge and all of existence is evil, and there is no good god and gnosis just means exiting this evil existence similar to samsara in Buddhism.
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>>24931772
I don't think gnostics even believed in the literal concepts of god, demiurge, evil etc. Their doctrine was more metaphorical. The solution to the problem of evil was attaining gnosis which is lived- not conceptually but in your own experience. You have to find the answers for yourself and everything else that distracts you is the demiurgic realm
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>>24931682
>All traditional religious thought is fake. And people that claim to believe in it are lying. No one in the modern world capable of thought and reading genuinely believes in any of this. We all know deep inside that it's fake.
What a rational scientific argument of , "you secretlu agree with me".

>new religion should completely disconnect from the physical and material plane to be viable. INCLUDING the afterlife/soul/spirit. You need to let go of these concepts in the construction of a new religion for it to work.

I will give you this. I genuinly wonder how you can make a religon with this restrictions and I wonder why you think the afterlife could be impiracly proven false , at least if you define death a certain way , you can always kick down the can , unlese we get to a wiere sci-fi situation were someone revived and kept forever alive all living things for shits and giggles.
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>>24930551
No you idiot. He's theory about how some people's past lives were animals. Thats what i am questioning.
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>>24932054
I apologize for calling you an idiot. Its unproductive. May the One guide You.
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>>24931772
The Manichean solution to the problem of evil is the most intuitive.
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>>24931795
>Demiurge is NOT omnipotent but IS all-powerful. Meanwhile the real god IS omnipotent but NOT all-powerful
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>>24931682
Materialism is a fake and gay. Show me where in a subatomic particle or in quantum energy fields where the laws of physics hood the keys that lead to the development of consciousness. I’ll have a Nobel price waiting for you, you literal Reddit pseudo intellectual retard.



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