Wtf, Tolkien was woke?
i think i turned cognitively impaired some how this week there was a thread with a quote by kant and i had to read it three times to get rly get what he was saying then tolkein writes for like 8th graders but i had to read this twice and even then it still seemed weird. idk what happened to my brain. i think i worked out too hard or something or i need more coffee idk it's like i can't fully wake up.
oh shit google search really stepped it up now if u search an image it uses ocr on the text and then uses gemini to give u a summary of the context and analysis of the passage. no wonder google is berkshire hathaway's ai bet. they're going to win.
>>24929926>Tolkien was woke?Catholics are all gynoslaves downstream from their heretical Marian devotianism, so yes.
>>24929956>>24929966The absolute state of brainrotted zoomers.
>>24929926jerry tolken was fat and unserious like a hobbit. he chose papism for the same aesthetic reasons as nicci fuentes and like nicci fuentes he disobeyed, nicci by never going to church and jerry by chanting in latin against the pope and his magesteriumtolkien wrote that in response to picrels macbeth. thats its deeper meaning. meanwhile the best english language fiction author of all time, lovecraft, wrote his 2nd best, mountains of madness, in response to some forgotten thing by e.a. poe
I always thought it was inspired by the famous prophecy from Macbeth.
>>24930002>the best english language fiction author of all time, lovecraftJustify this.
>>24929926This prose is turgid
>OP is a frog poster well aware of this scene in the movie (He's never read a book in his life)Not just a Catholic, Tolkien was a Rosicrucian. A mystic, a pseudo-gnostic seeker of the deeper truths shrouded by the church.The modern fed term "woke" is a garbage term, but why shy away from it? Like the Enlightenment it speaks to expansion of the mind. If you're anti-woke, you are an orc, zombi or those manufactured things (Uruk-hai?). Tolkien may have been writing about a "good king" emerging from his Robin Hood disguise, but at heart her was an anarchist who would have liked to live in the Shire (Inspired by William Morris' News From Nowhere and other writings). All thoughtful, intelligent people find their way to the original decentralized pastoralist life. Where men and women work and play, raise families, side by side. Women having no worth comes from the close-minded brutes of the cities, empires and brain damaged soldiers and slavers. Evil are these sleepers.
>>24930088>her wasExcuse the typo
>>24929926Yeah, you know all that Church art where Mary tramples the Serpent?
>>24929972It's a testament to Protestants' refusal to acknowledge history (mixed with their own fictional alt-histories) that this is a "Roman Catholic thing." If you go to any Eastern church you'll see Mary where the cross is in Western churches, right up front to showcase that Incarnation. And if you look at archeological sites from the early Church you'll find the Blessed Virgin venerated and called upon for intercession.
>>24930148Catholics have more Marian doctrines and the whole "Queen of Heaven" thing, but Mary only shows up a little bit in the Liturgy itself, and not much in the canonical daily hours except the "Hail Holy Queen" at the end of Compline before sleep.Whereas the East has fewer explicit doctrines but she is all over the Hours, etc., with some very long daily Marian prayers, which often involve calling her the highest of all creatures, above all the angelic beings (this is also the Catholic position, and you see it in the climax of the Divine Comedy where Mary is at the center of the saints, the closest to God, but it isn't part of formal worship the same way). That and putting her up front in the churches, although that's with the Christ child and then Christ as Creator is on the center of the ceiling usually.
>>24930092no
>>24930168*He was*but at heart he was more of an anarchist Being influenced by Morris
dude any registered national socialist member who liked jazz on the side would be considered woke by any retarded and historically illiterate groyper's standards
>>24930066before lovecrafts time the english language had never been spoken by a non Christian people, but the wilsonian revolution replaced the Christian value of honor with the alien value of izzat. lovecraft wrote in dream-quest that when man abandons respect for God, what comes next is azathoths and nyaralathoteps beyond imagination and his flying conveyances will of their own will deliver him to them and the cruel caprice by which God takes kadath from man is only a problem for man because by disrespect for God he has forgotten his role of building kadath. this could only of been wrote in that lamentable century of which much of the good writing is lost and whats published is goyslop chosen by judaists to demoralize.also mountains of madness is the coolest discussion of natural history and the panspermia and intelligent design hypotheses20c hacks write adventure girl but lovecraft writes adventure girl goes mad and gets chopped
>>24930247Well nazis are incognito liberals and often homosexuals (the Roman imperialist LARPer in them I guess)
>>24930250homosexual part is on point, but their addiction to doing anything for approval seems more like incognito centrism
>>24930269>incognito centrismok> If we used the word in that sense, we could do little more than agree with Ayn Rand, who, in a recent book, says quite bluntly: "Our present state of cultural disintegration is not maintained and prolonged by intellectuals as such, but by the fact that we haven't any. The majority of those who pose as 'intellectuals' today are frightened zombies, posturing in a vacuum of their own making. . . The key to their souls is their longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal.> a serious examination of the problem of "liberal intellectuals" must, I believe, begin with recognition of one fundamental fact that we are dealing with the phenomenon that is known in biology as symbiosis. In other words, we are examining not one species, but two
>>24930148I don't live in Slavshitland so I don't see Orthodox Churches or meet Orthodox Christians. Intercessionary prayer is heresy as is all Marian devotion. It's hilarious when you press Papist freaks on all their Marian worship and it basically amounts to reading phantoms into that one line from the Wedding at Cana>>24930160Makes sense when you consider most early converts of Christianity were foids. It has always and will always be a religion of Gynoslaves operating under a patriarchal veneer. As time goes on the Truth of the religion rears its ugly head as the real patriarchal pagan influences go by the wayside, and it increasingly becomes the faith of fags and schoolmarm harridans.
>>24930304Interesting thoughts from Rand. Normally hate her, but the US had been inoculated with the dumb for the duration of the "Cold War". The MKultra age is still here of course and it's getting worse, as big Pharma pumps us full of garbage and gives us autism and a myriad of allergies and intolerances. Destruction of the New Deal unions to the Hep B shots for infants. This is what your capitalist superheroes have done, Rand. You blithering idiot. >...the fact that we haven't any.
>>24930335>Pharma pumps us full of garbage and gives us autism and a myriad of allergies and intolerances>crying that babies won't be given another vaccineAmerican libtards are really something else, at least they used to have some logically formed principles pre-Trump.
>>24930304i dont even see rand as incognito centrist, more like "in the closet but everyone can tell" centrist
>>24930349Too many contemporary leftists are still trapped in the Marxist Matrix and have no adequate way of responding to contemporary political events. They'll complain about the capitalist superstructure but when conservatives (the big evil capitalist bad guys) do something to dismantle that structure, they immediately start defending its importance. Hence why Agamben was one of the only people who responded correctly to the COVID CRISIS whereas most western leftists ran to the defense of BigPharma and the Surveillance State.You're going to see a very similar situation in the next decade when all of the lefties who complain about control societies and State Propaganda Institutions run to the defense of the public school system after reactionaries gain more power in the West and start defending public schools.
>>24930349>crying that babies won't be given another vaccineWhat does this mean? I'm obviously against it. "Libtard" I'm not on team Hillary or team Trump
>>24930371>after reactionaries gain more power in the West and start defendingDefunding*
>>24930376I misread. The sentence made it seem like you were crying about the end of New Deal Unions and babies getting the HepB Vaxx which would indeed make you a libtard
>>24930371>They'll complain about the capitalist superstructureWith good reason. Though you're right about the Marxist infection. The Feds encourage it because it's controllable.>conservatives ...do something to dismantle that structureYou mean like not want the shot/vax? Yeah, what I meant by controllable. Then there's the vax taking conservatives. Why I try to tell people about the actual sides are better described as freedom versus control. >>24930381Hm, I see. Yeah, the New Deal was okay-ish and did great for that era's economy, but they have ruined it since. The IWW was real unionism I prefer. Everything should be co-op worker owned.
>>24930397>You mean like not want the shot/vax? Yeah, what I meant by controllable.The GOP and Dems often act not out of principle but out of attempts to simply "own" the other side. So yeah conservatives will often act against control structures when they've been enacted by Democrats. You see it happening with online speech as well though the GOP does have people like Mike Lee who is trying to get Online ID Laws passed.>Why I try to tell people about the actual sides are better described as freedom versus control.It's more useful than right vs left at this point. Especially since as I mentioned above, political parties have rarely been actually principles based and act more often according to personal loyalties and hatreds.
>>24930397>The IWW was real unionism I prefer. Everything should be co-op worker owdebsism is a pie in the sky when you die vision that gets you co-op'ed by your iww grad students local>>24930335>Destruction of the New Deal unionspart of the new deal was the grad students union taking over the tradies unions
>>24930415Agreed.>>24930544>Depism>Pie in the skyYou know Joe Hill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ236CwhlPw>you co-op'ed by your iww grad students localNo no. The workers run themselves. One workshop to another. No bureaucracies needed.>New DealThey only legalized unions if they included their controllable bureaucracy. Through that they decided to eventually strangle them. Govt. ruined the left.
>>24930632>The workers run themselves. One workshop to another. No bureaucracies needed.the workings of the economy are beneath notice, that is, as long as youre not enslaving nationals or mass importing foreign nationals or scamming or polluting your business is not my business. politics is concerned with matters of state. but these parties, when they dont offer pie for votes directly to certain demographics, offer the middle class a pie in the sky vision, the scammers final form offering everything to everyone, and a religious demand of the voters which after they had rejected Christianity as overly burdensome gleefully pick up
>>24930756I guess you're trying to describe what we have now, while I was trying to describe what it could be.Ah, if only the workers and surrounding communities would organize that one last strike and form their new world. A lovely possibility however unlikely. >>24930632>DepismLOL *Deb-ism, not Depp-ism
>>24930005I've read somewhere that he didn't like the cop out with that and the walking forest, hence Eowyn and the ents.
>>24930305Unfortunately I don't really see it that way and life and Catholicism goes on as usual while the few pagans stuck in hole in the wall commie blocks dressed in stained underwear with piss jugs between their legs will go on speaking of a pre-Christian Europe on anonymous image boards, mostly in vain.
>>24930305Not to point out the mote in a brothers eye but you should be a bit more charitable in how you treat people. The lord didn't go around calling people malformed retards
>>24931047>Catholicism goes on as usualCatholics haven't had a Pope that wasn't a leftist trying to overthrow the church for more than half a century. If you're a "Catholic" and you aren't a Sede at this point you're genuinely fucking retarded
>>24929972But it was factions of the radical reformation that originated feminist ideas thoughbeit
>>24930335There is literally nothing wrong with vaccines.
>>24930066His based racial views
>>24931760>feminism was because of....PROTESTANT REFORMATIONRetarded Tradcuck begriffsgeschichte. Read Nigel Carlsbad.
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>>24932286>My jewish holy book says you WILL BURN FOREVER if you don't worship us, goy
>>24929926>he will not slay thee in thy turn1 page later>he raised his mace to kill.
>>24930250Up is down, left is right>>24930269>but their addiction to doing anything for approvalYeah, those popularity chasing nazis! They just go along with the popular thing!You people just spout nonsense
>>24932286>t.
>>24932876He's right, this kid in the picture. What's the counter-argument? I don't have to follow my religion's core beliefs because some smug cunt pointed out I'm not doing it?
>>24929926Theodin-King and the Witch-king of Angmar are in a swords accident. Theoden-King dies at the scene and the Witch-king requires hindering by a swordsman. The Witch-king looks at the swordsman and exclaims, "No living man may hinder me!", but he is subsequently smited. How can this be?
>>24932876>get raised on a religion of universal compassion and faith in God>lose faith in god but not the universal compassion>somehow the people that claim to keep the faith ditch the universal compassion part>asking them how the fuck that happened makes you a smug hypocrite somehow
>>24932874>Up is down, left is rightLiberal is against socialist revolutions. Helps into power an enemy of socialism for proxy war.After their victory you can see all the BDSM, all the twitter fools MKultra'd into support Ukrainian nazis and censorship. Up is up, left is left, right is "neo"-liberalism+nationalism
>>24932876>How can you point out the contradiction in my worldview if you don't share it!It's called having a theory of mind
>>24932905Yeah, the cult of Jesus was the original globohomo ideology. If you follow Christianity (or Izlam), then you're a traitor to your people and motherland. Notice how there's no concept of motherland in Christian countries, because they're rootless golems of globohomo.
>>24929972You worship a pedophile pederast who got gangraped by indians in front of his friend
>>24932268Correct, Muslim and Papists were the only ones putting women in their place. Today med countries put women in their place and beat them nordcucks worship women
>>24934121Evola loved Islam thou as well as neitzche. Europe will be Islamic In sha Allah and you will do nothing but seethe
>>24935318As long as they abolish feminism, execute all marxists, and throw all the troons off rooftops I'm ok with that.
>>24935321We will but you and your children will have to be Muslim
>>24935333Sorry I like music and pork chops. No can do.
>>24934121People act as if paganism doesn't have its own problems, like its worship of the "noble savage" and its axe to grind against technology which will get them killed in an international conflict. Plus the idea of pagan imperium ever coming back is laughable.
>>24935338Well I mean with the demographics you won't really have a chance desu
Who the fuck can read this crap, holy shit.
>>24935442Manchildren
>>24929956VAXXEDAXXED
>>24931785I was injured by it. I may develop something worse later. Not sure. But I guess I'm lucky. Some people died from it.
>>24929926>defending your lord>defending your family>as a woman>woke/lit/ reading comprehension at it again
>>24937942get back in the cuckshed, redditor
>>24930845With Macbeth, there's a dramatic contradiction between "no man of woman born can harm Macbeth" and "beware Macduff".
>>24937996you are brown
>>24932876
>>24929926Probably just a plot device
>>24932876Wow. You created a lot of seethe with that one.
