So does every society (on some level) consciously repress the sexual instinct because transmuted sex drive is the only way to get proles to pursue symbolic achievement & gratification of the sex drive - via career/going to work/tilling le fields, or is it just survivorship where its unintentional but only the societies which create sexual taboos, hard relationships roles expectations, and suppress sex survive - while the pagan free love hippies in the woods are beheaded by pent-up full-balls on-edge puritans willing to march 10000 li?
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sexual promiscuity is very expensive in any society, you have sex, babies come out, babies need to be taken care of, and while everyone has their own baby, they can't do it for you, etc
>>24932334The sublimation thesis, developed by Freud, posits that civilization requires redirecting libidinal energy toward productive labor and symbolic achievement. The intuitive appeal is real, but the hydraulic model of psychic energy underlying it lacks empirical support in contemporary psychology. Many highly productive individuals and societies have not been notably sexually restrictive, and many restrictive societies have not been notably productive.The survivorship framing fares no better historically. The question's implicit narrative where sexually permissive "pagan" societies fall to disciplined puritans inverts much of the historical record. Rome, various Chinese dynasties, and the early Islamic caliphates achieved military dominance during periods of relative sexual permissiveness among elites. Sparta's famous discipline coexisted with institutionalized pederasty. The correlation between restrictiveness and martial success is far weaker than the question assumes.The question also conflates distinct phenomena: formal sexual taboos, actual sexual behavior, marriage systems, and the psychological channeling of motivation. These vary independently across societies.What the question captures, albeit crudely, is a genuine puzzle in anthropology about why costly sexual regulations persist so universally. The answer likely involves paternity certainty, disease control, kinship legibility, and coordination rather than libidinal economics.
>goonsHuh, what?
its a consequence of society's need to repress the universal law of, might=right.the biggest and strongest gets to do what it wants but society cant function if we act in our base nature. alienations, taboos anxiety, ect all arise from the suppression of that law.
>>24934842doesn’t the might is right definition just explain society itself anyway. cooperative species dominate solitary strong ones.
>>24932401Now lets see him apply the same framework to communism and liberalism.
>>24932601>babies need to be taken care ofWhat if we just don't take care of the babies?
>>24934877They get taken in by she-wolves and grow up to be leaders of brigands, plundering the countryside and eventually sacking your cities.
>>24934842You're thinking in Hobbes terms I'm looking at it in Freud terms.
>>24932334Sublimation theory is interesting but ultimately it doesn’t have a good justification for why purely wasteful expenditure is not just inevitable but a necessary societal pressure valve. Yes, plenty of innovation can arise out of sublimated sexual energy, but ultimately there will always be a surplus that cannot be repurposed within that system and must be exhausted through opulent waste, whether that’s through war, decadence, human sacrifice, etc… Bataille was bang on, in that sense.
>>24932334>So does every society (on some level) consciously repress the sexual instinct because transmuted sex drive is the only way to get proles to pursue symbolic achievement & gratification of the sex drive - via career/going to work/tilling le fields,This is the evil of women not elites. Women control sex to control men with their vagina magic and like loyal dogs all men comply.
The French exist so no.
>>24932334>So does every society (on some level) consciously repress the sexual instinctwell its either>men and women are consciously limited to 1 partner as a communist rationing scheme for some vague concept of social harmonyor its> stay together for the children
>>24935302Why not combine the two?
>>24936086Maybe if sex intercourse was easier for us this wouldn't happen. Fucking should be as easy as turning a doorknob. Your mother is a great example of this.
>>24934877>>24935074this, they mess your society up, and this is why single mothers are hated so much because they are leeches whose children become a burden
>>24936401>Fucking should be as easy as turning a doorknob.Kill yourself Saturnian roastie
>>24936412>this is why single mothers are hated so much because they are leeches whose children become a burdentheyre betrayers kidnappers slavers child abusers and perverts. any decent government would execute them
>>24936412>children become a burdengive the children back to their fathers
>>24936412single mothers arent hated a tenth as much as they should be
>>24937091Men should NEVER give up on the custody of their sons. Female bitch can raise her female daughter but giving her the custody of son should be considered abuse and torture.
>>24937102>give up on the custodywhat american man isnt the father or uncle of a kidnapped child? every american man has a personal duty to execute the entire antiamerican government
>>24934875>communism Mass Psychology of Fascism>LiberalismFunction Of the OrgasmAccording to Reich, puritanism and promiscuous perversion are different sides of the same coin: unhealthy attitude towards sex due to the underlying muscular tension.In the Reichian paradigm, contemporary liberal society is ill and the prominent superficial attitude towards sex and relationships is the obvious manifestation of that illness. Female frivolous attitude toward sex is a result of neurosis. Homos are neurotic (and castrated males with anal state complexes and inner rage towards the original castrating figure, be it father or mother, if I remember the case from Character Structure right). Trannies are psychotic.
>>24936086Bait used to be believable.
>>24937102>Female bitch can raise her female daughterzebra women let their new man kill their old mans children, God gave many species fatherhood behavior to prevent this
>>24936086>Women control sex to control men with their vagina magic and like loyal dogs all men comply
>>24932334>everything men do is for pussyThere are so many people on the on self improvement train the past two decades it's unreal, and I'm not talking about gym because many of them don't even hit the gym but instead do other activities, I'm talking about making money, being social, doing activities, hobbies, just keeping busy in general and making their life as interesting as possible to attract pussy. They are doing all that for pussy, constantly chasing a better looking pussy, younger, fresher, etc. until eventually they find one they are satisfied with so they can fertilize it but even then many of them continue to chase pussy on the side. Some of these boomers are 70+ and still chase pussy, that's right many divorced boomers have girlfriends, just look at that tremendous Eastwood faggot who found a new pussy at 70 or 80 and married for the 6th time. Not to mention famous chads like Julio Iglesias who had thousands of pussies throughout his life.All that self-improvement, customs, social mores, hobbies, cultural events and other activities people do is to attract pussy so they can breed the next generation of goyim cattle and feel desired, loved and appreciated by their pussy and progeny.
>>24937252>>24934842You and Conan the Bronze Age Rapist anon are too dumb to understand what I'm talking about, but the theory is that as human being have an infinite capacity for abstraction, base instincts are reproposed and channeled into symbolic acts of gratifcation.In simpler terms: Instead of getting pussy, you get that new Ferrari.>Thats not tru!And yet, half of this anti-woman website is made up of doll collecting gachafags who slave away at their jobs to pay $500 for digital dolls of women.
>>24937739>In simpler terms: Instead of getting pussy, you get that new Ferrari.yes youre agreeing with>>24934842
>>24937739>but the theory is that as human being have an infinite capacity for abstraction, base instincts are reproposed and channeled into symbolic acts of gratifcation.BAP literally talks about this >Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status. Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions. The onanism of modern society is connected with its supposed “hyper-sexualization” and its infertility. It’s not really hyper-sexualization, but the devolution of the spirit to the lassitude of a diffuse and weak sexuality. Life in owned space becomes drained of energy through low-grade pointless titillation—and nofap is a kind of cargo cult that tries to reestablish energy in order, on path of ascent. Sometimes, however, it’s a successful cargo cult, but whether it works or no can be seen usually within a week. The unfortunate thing about all this is that w*m*n have exceptionally good antennae for this kind of thing, and when a man frees himself from these pressures…they see this from very far away. They have an instinct to seek out ascending life and drain it…they and the species thereby achieve their goals, but you are bled dry and sometimes left a husk. They revert life back to its irritated state, and by their drainage of vital essence they’ve laid low many great tasksIts incredible how you people just dont understand him at all
Once we standarize mass chemical-psychological castration via anti-sex hormones like gnrha we will finally achieve a society without sex or sexual energy. It's closer than you think.
>>24936824I'm a 43 year old man. nowhere did I state I was ever female. I should probably stated that procreation was implied. Sex for pleasure is pointless.
>>24936412its also worth noting that the tax money that comes out of men's pockets usually aren't the losers they let cum in them either. I shouldn't have to feed kids that aren't mine.
>>24937092my buddy lost custody of his five kids because his bitch of an ex-wife got pissy with him over the phone and fucked some guy that night instead of the two settling their problems like grown adults. she comes back, they fight, he's got a restraining order against him. fucking stupid.
No
>>24937252Self-improvement and self-help are just deflated, therapeutized, commercialized, empty husks of real philosophy.
>>24937739>>24932334It's not that I don't understand it, I just think the premises are false and based on a deflated, pallid materialist anthropology. It also unfalsifiable, just like Homo oecononimicus. It's also an ideology that is descended from a particular theology (although less directly than liberal economics) and I think that theology is frankly heretical.This is a huge problem with Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment ideologies. They pretend to be the products of context free, pure reason, just describing empirical facts, but they are in fact extremely theory-laden with Reformation and Counter Reformation assumptions, which have just had God chopped out of them.
