Why are so many on this board obessed with appearing literary without actually going to the effort of reading genuine literary fiction, poetry, dramas, etc? What causes this?
But I do read things and enjoy reading things. I was reading Rimbaud in French like 3 days ago. And I'm not even French.
>>24934437>2.0What, didn't get enough attention with the first one?
Because /lit/ is 99% of midwits 1% actual smart literary people.It's telling when threads about actual literature die and the most popular threads in this shithole are IS ELDEN RING /LIT/, bronze age faggot e celeb drama, genreslop sf and "worldbuilding" generals
>>24934443I decided to add some of the books that genre fiction fans tell me are literary and along with the infuriated replies of Wolfe and McCarthy readers/
>>24934437>tfw my reply from the previous thread is in the imageI'm honoured that my comment struck a nerve.
>>24934437Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian (1985) seems to me the authentic American apocalyptic novel, more relevant now than when it was written. The fulfilled renown of Moby-Dick and of As I Lay Dying is augmented by Blood Meridian, since Cormac McCarthy is the worthy disciple both of Melville and of Faulkner. I venture that no other living American novelist, not even Pynchon, has given us a book as strong and memorable as Blood Meridian, much as I appreciate his Crying of Lot 49, Gravity’s Rainbow, and Mason & Dixon. McCarthy himself has not matched Blood Meridian, but it is the ultimate Western, not to be surpassed.Blood Meridian is a canonical imaginative achievement, both an American and a universal tragedy of blood. Judge Holden is a villain worthy of Shakespeare, Iago-like and demoniac, a theoretician of war everlasting. And the book’s magnificence—its language, landscape, persons, conceptions—at last transcends the violence, and converts goriness into terrifying art, an art comparable to Melville’s and to Faulkner’s.
>>24934437Poetry is for fags.
>>24934437I would be delighted to be out and randomly meet someone who read all this, even better if they used all that accumulated knowledge to blow me. You philosophy PHD circle jerkers live in a sorrowful ivory towers.
>>24934459>to blow meAren't you afraid of STDs?
>>24934437>that genre fiction fans tell me are literaryI'd recommend "Books Are Made Out of Books" by Michael Crews if you want to learn about all the literary and philosophical references in McCarthy's work. To pretend like he's not literary is a self report that you don't read.
>>24934464>>24934447
>>24934455>McCarthy himself has not matched Blood MeridianI thought Harold Bloom would have liked Suttree better. Maybe he didn't read it.
>>24934458>spending hours upon hours on a contrived story or prose attempting to be poetic is somehow less faggy
>>24934463I'm not gay, african, or visiting prostitutes so I've been blown by plenty of mousey autistic girls free from the worry they have undiagnosed chlamydia.
>>24934440I denounce the rimbaud heh
>>24934437Bakker is KING. Those who insult Abu Bakker, our Aspect Emperor and Warrior Prophet WILL be beheaded.
>>24934437Ego.
>>24934437I love all these
>>24934467>>24934447>>24934452>>24934437Kys
>what causes this?are you really so retarded that you don't understand why this is true, or did you just need to end your post with a question?
>>24934437Because poetry and drama are for limp-wristed faggots.
manchild-core is giving a shit about what a 4chan memechart says instead of reading whatever you wantyou are all homosexual gay niggas
>>24934437These all sound pretty good, give more Manchild Core recs, please.
>>24934638And litfic isn't? In what way?
>>24934437This is a good post. I endorse it. Too many retards worship McCarthy and Tolkien here.
>>24934645/thread
>>24934437Imagine telling people what's cool and true according to you.
I'm going to buy and READ Blood Meridian.
>>24934766>READ>on /lit/You disgust me. It's like playing video games as a /v/tard.
>>24934638the mccarthy reader exposedpretends to be literary, hates poetry and drama like the philistine midwit he is
>>24935450Kill yourself, retard
>>24935908
Blood Meridian is a masterpiece of literature and will be a classic even 500 years from now, given Islam does not burn it after The Final Jihad.
>>24934638Brainlet r/TheDonald tourist.
>>24934437>poetry
>>24935926It will be forgotten with the century.
>>24935956Its historical context alone will carry it for that long. The Judge will carry it past that, and then the philosophy and occult themes it presents will carry it further.
>>24935915>>24935908
>>24935989>DUDE OPRAH BOOKCLUB LMAO
>>24934437>Why are so many on this board obessed with appearing literary without actually going to the effort of reading genuine literary fiction, poetry, dramas, etc? What causes this?Zoomers—who now constitute a bulk of the posters to 4chan boards—as a generation have an aversion to effort. There is an entwined sense of both entitlement and learned helplessness, where if something doesn't come easy, then it should be made to be, or else it just wasn't meant to be. This mentality extends to knowledge disciplines of all kinds, including the realm of literature.You touch upon it directly. It requires effort—effort they are not willing to expend for almost anything, let alone reading. It is better for them to play pretend and have everyone play along as if their shallow engagement with whatever topic at hand is worthwhile. It is a social taboo to shatter this illusion, and will be met with all manner of reprisals deployed, intended to shame and humiliate the critic into backing down, such as the declaration and its sentiment, "it's not that deep".Boomers' generational flaw of course was narcissism. Zoomers' generational flaw is ADHD/ADD: an unwillingness or inability to apply sustained energy toward achievement of a supposedly desired goal, instead allowing it to diffuse into useless whims.When a zoomer says they don't believe in hard work, it isn't because they've seen hard work not pay off, but rather because they fundamentally believe hard work is an unnecessary evil and that the world itself should accomodate desires no matter how far the desirer is from it practically-speaking.
>>24934446Let me guess, you're in the 1% of actual smart people?
>>24936828Clock his tea, sis!
>>24934437Reminds me of this
Oh god you guys I can’t stop stroking my girthy cock it’s too much I can’t I can’t oh god oh fuck !!
>>24935949midwit swine>>24936828yes because i don't make threads on whether elden ring is literary
>>24936054Blood meridian is not in the book club, retarded ESL
>>24936512Qrd? Im not reading all of that.
>>24936837TCM2 and Return of the Living Dead are legitimately great movies.What kind of horror *does* /tv/ like anyway?
>>24934437It's been discovered zoomers don't actually know how to read, they just memorize words, that's why they only obsess over books that keep being used in tiktok memes like blood meridian and dune
>>24937186discovered? they were deliberately programmed that wayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPk5WDwbrGc
>>24937173it's a bait image designed to trigger /tv/tards just like OP's is designed to trigger the mid 20s manchildren on /lit/ who only read dune and blood meridian and gene wolfe. and both do their job pretty well
>>24934437Nah Zanzibar is good from what I know. Its because I read the majority of that stuff in honors English literature in high school and have no desire to read it now.
>>24934634You first. Let's all commit suicide. You don't have the guts, faggot.
>>24934437Fuck off kike
>>24937282McCarthy was literally funded by epstein LMAO
>>24934437>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO READ BORING SHIT ABOUT SECOND GENERATION ASIAN IMMIGRANTS OR THE WRITERS SELF INSERT STRUGGLING WITH ACOHOLISMThe only people who complain about genre fiction are faggots that read 1 Murakami or Dolstevsky book a year and act like Brian Griffin.
>>24936512Well I guess if the roads were paved in equal measure you'd have a point but no. Also I'm 43, not a zoomer.
>>24937298So? He was successful. You aren't.
>>24937326Mcdonalds is successful. Is mcdonalds haute cuisine?
>>24937298Source? They seem to have shared a passion for grooming
>things happeningfuck off i'm not reading that genre fiction crap>things happening (MC's conscience)omg yes!
>>24937324ok spiritual zoomer
>>24937344Santa Fe institute took hundreds of thousands of dollars from epstein
>>24934437>genuine literary fiction
>>24934437>reading genuine literary fictioni go back to hill of the ravens every few years to compare current events with covingtons vision
>>24934437issues of instauration from before i was born help me fall alseep because they remind me that this fight is eternal
>>24937331Kys, ESL retard
>>24937173Those two, Alien, Halloween, Suspiria, Rosemary's Baby, and Jacob's Ladder are the only good flicks on this image. Based TCM2 appreciator.
>>24934447kek i cant wait for 3.0please add 40 year old manchild sam hyde to this pic, this is a carbon copy of his reading list including blood meridian, past master and gene wolfe
>>24937442Sam Hyde and his annoying fans who regurgitate his opinins and constantly reccomend lafferty and gene wolfe are part of the reason i made it in the first place, there is one annoying fanboy on /tv/ who spams a pic of sam hyde holding the lafferty book in every thread he can
>>24937442>>24937455Could tell. The whole list gives off a "I am a midwit scared of chuds energy". The fuck do you know about literature
>>24937519Grow up manchild.
>>24937522>said the manchildLol
>>24937522I am not the one fuming and putting together a list because I am seething 24/7 at chuds and the books they might have offhandedly recommended. That's you. Kill yourself.
>>24934437Blood Meridian and LotR are great. Dune and Blindsight are worth a quick read. Hyperion only has two good stories. The rest is slop.
>>24934437>"waaaah chuds hurt me so I am gonna pretend as if I am a snob"Lol. You're brown, aren't you? There is a zero percent chance you have enough reading comprehension to parse Blood meridian, so on what basis are we supposed to take you seriously? It's genre fiction the same way Moby-dick and divine comedy are genre fiction.The fact that some middle aged loser put in the time to make this list as if he will get back at something is ironically the strongest sign of being a manchild.
I think these basedpilled reddimaxxing faggots that hate anything masculine and use the word manchildren should be called boywomen. At their core they are a little boy, but as an adult they behave like women.
>all these hurt dogs holleringGood job OP.
>>24934437thanks for the reading list
>>24934437>redditors seethingAbsolutely based OP. Don't forget to add King of Reddit, Thomas Pynchon, to the next list.
>>24934437>manchild coreso what an I supposed to read?
>>24937571>>24937577>>24937580Stop samefagging, retard.
>>24937589Embarrassing display.
>>24937589game over
>>24937600>using multiple devicesReal embarrassing display
>>24937580hp lovecraft needs to be on here too>>24937626cope levels off the chart kek
>>24937659any list without lovecraft isnt a list of literature or philosophy, lovecraft wrote the most interesting book since john
>>24937525>>24937528Seething manchild sam hyde fanboy
>>24937626>can't concede fault even anonymouslyNeckbeard tendencies
>>24937716lovecraft wrote religion and nothingness by keiji nishitani?
>>24937659>hp lovecraft needs to be on here tooThe manchildren, while they probably read him aren't as obessed with him as they are obsessed with wolfe and tolkien and lafferty and mccarthy because lovecraft was an atheist and wasn't a BASED TRADCATH CONSERVATIVE
>>24937779fair point, but he's an honorable mention at the very least. you should see the way gaymers talk about him, it's like watching 10 year olds be in awe from watching a dragonball cartoon
>>24937580Based! Based! Based! Surprised OP hasn't put him on the list already. Oversight?
>>24937298kektus epstein was literally retarded so checks out
>>24937580>King of Reddit, Thomas PynchonNah, it's more like late Roman Empire where they had 2 emperors: The Reddit Empire is McCarthy/Rome and Pynchon/Constantinople
>>24937782Yeah the lovecraft "fans" are mostly utterly retarded teenagers into """powerscaling""" who get their knowledge of lovecraft stories from youtube and vidya and anime.They're an equally as cancerous but seperate league from the manchildren of /lit/ who are really into wolfe, mccarthy, and other surface level genre slop authors.
>>24937824what's up with manchildren being so into pynchon, wolfe, mccarthy, dune, tolkien?
>>24937829>what's up with manchildren being so into pynchon, wolfe, mccarthy, dune, tolkien?Easy, they're all genre slop. Next question.
>>24937838What genre is Pynchon?
>>24937838well, that raises the question why they only want to read genre slop like that in the first place. if i'm a manchild, why am i picking up pynchon or dune or tolkien or mccarthy at all?
>>24937829Because they are children who want to be men, they look up to other men. But other men are too old and boring and lame for them (Hegel, Socrates) so they have to look for something more modern. >Oooooh... what's this? A book written in the last 50 years that has blood and gore and violence and esotericism? >I'm literally so deep and intellectual, under my incel veneer I can enchant any woman if only they got to know me and my dark triad jungian nietzchean spirit>btw i act like patrick bateman despite being 290 lbs but its ok because sam hyde does it and he's my idol and totally not a loser
>>24937829they're masculine-oriented genre slop that's slightly better than shit like sanderson and airport reading material so it allows manchildren who want to appear literary, cultured and intelligent to appear so without putting the effort into reading difficult material. if you're a manchild who can't read poetry, or literature written before the year 1900 then you'll flock to shit like wolfe and mccarthy and tolkien because it's like your favorite dark souls vidya or warhammer slop and uses babby's first literary techniques like unreliable narrator and lets you feel like you're a based intellectual
>>24937554Boywomen
>>24937829they're too proud to seek out basic manuals or instructions on how to be a man, shit like redpilled podcasts or rollo tomassi and shit like that, so they want incognito shit. aka fiction with aspirational male role models. it's nearly as vapid a veneer.
>>24937838Basically what they (>>24937867, >>24937884) said. Manchildren can't really read difficult stuff, brain's fried on marvel movies and vidya, so they pop out Blood Meridian or Gravity's Rainbow or Dune because it allows them to pretend to be intellectual.
>>24934437Nice, now add The Vorrh, Locus Solus, and Mafarka the Futurist
Manchildren will never recover from the raping they are experiencing in this thread. /lit/ may yet heal.
>>24934437LotR is the best fiction ever published, BM is too perfomative but still ok.
>>24937930boywoman moment
>>24937580>King of Reddit, Thomas PynchonHoly shit, you weren't lying. When did he get so popular on reddit?
>>24937935i am literally uruk hai looking huge negro with 8.5 x 6.3 inch cock, i would fuck any attractive women in your life on sight.
>>24937955>I'm a stoopid nigger grilla rapist muh dik muh dik muh dikboywoman moment
>>24937955youre a fag
>>24937829>>24937838>>24937903>>24937926>>24937946>>24937897KYS ESLWolfe and McCarthy are the greatest authors of the 20th century and only filtered ESLs disagree
>>24937955Saddest post itt desu
Add storm of steel and something by Mishima. It doesn't matter what>>24937978typical boywoman rage
>>24937988KYS ESL
>>24937991clitty leakage is off the charts
>>24937993KYS ESL
>>24937973>>24937977i am sorry i sparkled such offendingimages inside of your head. surely reading some ring of nibelung beforee sleep will reduce damage. don't mind me.
>>24937978did the puberty hormones get loud again?
>>24938010>>24937978>shitskin and tranny catfight
Why are manchildren like this? What makes them so uniquely cringe?
Why are you including random books that nobody's ever heard of (wtf is the deep?) and not the most manchildcore genre fiction every written, Lolita
>>24938026A combination of slightly higher than average intelligence and a belief that they are thus smarter than everyone else means that when they're confronted by literature too difficult for them to handle, and people who mock them for reading genre slop, they start frothing at the mouth and lashing out to compensate for their deep insecurities.
>>24938037Funny enough, Lolita is the book manchildren avoid the most. You want to send enough red flags to make sure people understand you're mysterious and esoteric, but even they are self aware enough that they are already promoting literature that features child rape like McCarthy so if they mention Nabokov that will confirm their status as a pedophile.
>>24938037The deep is another genre slop trash novel that manchildren on here keep posting because it's "literary" and has "great prose".And then when you actually get to reading it it turns out to be the most trite sci fi trash imaginable with medicore prose even for the sci fi genre.
>>24938026too many years wasted playing dark souls and watching hecking asmongold
>>24938044>Funny enough, Lolita is the book manchildren avoid the most.
>>24938041>>24938047How do we get them off /lit/? Will sustained mockery work?
>>24938050Yes I speak from experience as a dark triad incel manipulator. I even maintain a fake diary that all of the women I lure eventually "stumble upon" and realize how deep and vast my soul is. Stupid fucking bitches.
so are you going at least post real fucking literature or what nigger
>>24938050kek
The manchild-core chart may be the greatest thing on /lit/ since waldunposting.how one image produce such a vitriolic reaction is beyond me
>>24938150Imagine the seethe when OP adds Pynchon
>>24938059>being this new
>>24938150It is honestly hilarious, and I personally really like half of the books on that list. There is absolutely value to having genre fiction that is popular that also has some interesting themes, but I absolutely hate the kinds of people that will only read genre while absolutely refusing to go and even read the classic works that inspired them.
>>24937719>seething manchild
So much projection itt thread by seething ESLs and midwits kek. You don't have to be perpetually mad at American writers. And no that doesn't make them genre slop. Twerking for european poetry (let's be real, you are brown) or euro novels like they are harder to read than BM and GR (lol) is a clearer sign of being an ignorant manchild.And stop samefagging.
>>24938878Corncob anon really is filtered by poetry?
>>24938150>>24938153we need some brown lit that pajeet pooskin teens think is deep like Mahabharata that shit is like twilight-tier
I'd say put Conan on here but his fans are teetering on being unironic manchildren vs embracing how camp and fantasy based his stories are.I would add Pynchon too. I want go say add Lovecraft but Lovecraft has genuine deep artistic meaning when it comes to race issues. His fans are manchildren however.
>>24938920noticed the same thing about conan fans. fat smelly virgins always need some caveman to look up to to make up for the fact they're meaningless losers
>>24938920Look I'm a pretty big fan of Lovecraft but he is just as if not more genre slop than anything on that list. He also undoubtedly has was worse prose and thematic depth than Tolkien, Wolfe or McCarthy. Don't get me wrong, some of Lovecraft's stories are genuinely great, but he has a shit load of genuine garbage.
>>24938902Blake is my bitch. Mccarthy is closer to poetry than he ever will be to genre fiction anyway. Aren't you that retard who thought faerie queen was a prose work? I wouldn't talk so much if i were you.
>>24938939I don't disagree but if you look into his works with racist intent you can see past the genre dressings. Something all his fanbase is afraid of doing and appreciating.
>>24938920>I want go say add Lovecraft but Lovecraft has genuine deep artistic meaning when it comes to race issuesVery longwinded way of saying that you're retarded.
>>24938947That's a shame you're missing out
>>24938949Yeah fair enough. I would argue you can read Lord of the rings through a racist lense too even if it wasn't intentional by Tolkien.
>>24938955Missing out on what? I have known and read antique books you've never heard of. Will you stop pretending that your tastes are somehow new or out there? I mean you haven't even read the one book you were shilling last time around. Now you are pretending you know Wagner? Give me a break.
>>24938957>even if it wasn't intentionalThe man who made up a whole race of subhuman orcs bred as dark invader savages was a racist?
>>24938961Personally I would say that he thought European culture was superior, but I'm not sure how much he actually intended to comment on directly.
>>24938952So, Lovecraft fan, Conan fan, or Pynchon fan? Come on which one made you mad I called you out.
>>24938972I am just not a fan of retards, which is why i called you out. Truth hurts huh
>>24938978Fair enough so you aren't a fan of any of those three and have no problem with them being added to manchild core charts.
>>24934437I think Picture of Dorian Grey, Count of Monte Cristo, Tolstoi and Dostoyevsky belong on a manchild list as well. Probably the biggest signals of manchild-syndrome.
>>24939039I mean I read Picture of Dorian Grey in the 5th grade alongside Frankenstein and Tom Sawyer, I cannot disagree with this.
