Which philosophers would be of interest to a Christian?
Depends on the person. A lot of philosophers were Christians, but their approach to it wasn't all the same.
>>24934588Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus and Epictetus, mostly.I personally think modern philosophy is not very useful for Christians, but some Christians like some.Something like Hume or Bentham is pure trash.
>>24934588Depends entirely on said Christian's denomination.
Kierkegaard
Heraclitus & Lao Tzu (see 'Christ the Eternao Tao')
>>24934588None, just keep your head in the sand and follow what the Bible says
>>24934594Echoing this anon. Plato's philosophy clearly had an impact on the New Testament itself, especially on Paul who would have most likely read Plato. Most early Christians like Augustine were also Platonists. Aristotle is very influential within Catholicism but if you're not Catholic there might be less point reading him. Augustine is also very interesting to read if you want a sort of Christian Platonism.
>>24934588All of them honestly, if your faith relies on a lack of knowledge i don't think its worth believing. For example, id say German idealism is definitely worth it from a christian perspective, but to get the most out of those also requires having a good knowledge of atheist philosophers like Hume that preceded and inspired them.
>>24934594Modern philosophy is useful because it justifies the Patristics' contention that instrumental thinking and Hume's dictum that "reason is and ought only be the slave of the passions" is diabolical (in very much the old sense of tending towards multiplicity and nothingness).>>24934588I really like Dante for delivery. Since Virgil is a stand-in for Pagan wisdom, both its merits and limitations, it's a lovely presentation. Boethius' Consolation of Philosophy is a classic presentation of Pagan philosophy by a Christian. Plato and Aristotle are obviously great too.Also, try pic related for a look at how Orthodox Christianity can be explicated by Chinese philosophy. Hegel can be useful for understanding Solovyov and Ulrich too, but that's very dense.
>>24934784>if your faith relies on a lack of knowledge i don't think its worth believing.>implying Atheistic trash like Hume counts as knowledge
>>24934588Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas, Scotus, Abelard, Anselm, Eckhart, Boehme, Schleiermacher.
>>24934588hmm idk. maybe the pope?https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html
It might be worth reading Blaise Pascal because he gives arguments for why you should maintain belief even in an enlightened, skeptical age
>>24935094but dante puts many popes in inferno
>>24934594>philosophy stopped progressing after the ancient worldi can predict your opinion on every possible subject
>>24934588If you're a catty then >Ibn Rushd>Ibn Sina>Plotinus>Aristotle>Maimonides>Pseudo-Dionysusare essential as together they make up the majority of Catholic religion. You can read Augustine if you like but his actual broader influence in Catholicism from a framework perspective is essentially 0.Protty:>Moses>Jesus>St. Paul>St. Peter>4 Evangelists>Augustine>Church Fathers
>>24936268How so? Ancient philosophers contradicter each other all the time.
I'm pretty sure that if Evola and Guenon knew about the modern TradCath movement, they would reconsider their pagan views
Robin Diangelo mostly
>>24934588>Which philosophers would be of interest to a Christian?Euclid, Newton, Euler, Dedekind, Riemann, Grothendieck
>omnia disce, videbis postea nihil esse superfluum. coartata scientia iucunda non est.
>>24936498do NOT waste your years of your life learning and practicing card tricks... worst mistake of my life
>>24934588Emil Cioran the RomanianWhat I remember reading from him 10 years ago was that he was envious of women because they could believe in God, but men have it tougher because he couldn't imagine having faith in the unseen. Which I thought was funny because it resonated with me as an atheist when I was in college, but I became a Christian when I was 26.
>>24936281/lit/ will hate this, but it's true
>>24937158it's not true
>>24937162i've been defeated...
>>24936268Who said anything about "progress"? What is even progress in philosophy?The thread is about which Philosophers are useful for Christians. Some philosophers are incompatible with Christianity since they start with different assumptions and some others have nothing to do with the subjects Christians care about.
you should be praying, not reading nonsense
>>24934588Fichte, especially in the way towards the blessed life.
>>24934588For the 20th century: Gabriel Marcel, Jacques Maritain, Peter Wust, Robert Spaemann
>>24934588Epictetus
>>24934588Any philosopher that challenges the Christian's ideas and doesn't simply affirm what they already believe
>>24934588Whitehead, Ibn Arabi
>>24934588plato, aristotle, john, justin martyr, aquinas, milton, lovecraft. there, thats your history of theology
Christians shouldn't be doing philosophy, since they're retards.
>>24941051This.>Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
What do you mean "for a Christian"? Something stays comfortably in your current world view? Why would you want to read philosophy you already mostly agree with?
>>24941257I don't think you quite understand what philosophy is.
>>24941257For ideologues, you want something that reinforces your view. They're only interested in their ideology. So they'll use philosophy as a tool to reinforce their ideology. Sort of like how military uses meditation to train professional killers these days.
>>24941051Good thing retards have more sex than you do, incel.
>>24934588Thomas Hobbes, specifically Of the Kingdome of Darknesse in Leviathan.
>>24941760And by "reinforce" you specifically mean: provides the reader with language to ponder and communicate their position in more effectively. Yes?
>>24934588None. God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise.That's not to say they are all worthless, there is great value in some of the philosophers and philosophies depending on what problems you and your society is struggling with. But all too often philosophy is just veiled egocentrism and an all-too-convenient distraction. Your desire to understand is inflated by your desire to control. Inspect your motivations as much as you do external arguments and you will start discerning which philosophy is worth your time and which isn't.
His famous paradox may contradict with what a Christian believes, but Epicurus is fascinating
